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JIGSTER

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JIGSTER

What's the status on the eye bite?They gotta be on the move by now!The gaps or river.I know the tourneys are coming up,but all you locals can't be fishin' em.I got a trailer at Cyrus, so just trying to pick the best time to make the trip!! Not much for reports on Walleye Retreat or Clementsons websites. Thanks Jigster

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Kaz

Jigster: Not much on Wallete Retreat is an under statement!!! The have not up dated their reports since Aug 13. My buddy was up this weekend and the fishing was as poor as it's been for a long time. The wind and the rain made it miserable in the Gap, Four Mile Bay and the river. Shinners are piddleing in, as they have been for about three weeks. They just can't seem to really turn on. I hope this is not an indication of a poor Shinner spaun. I guess we just have to wait and when those who choose the right weekend report, and be ready to drop everything and head up there. As of now though, it's not the time. I do have to add that some days are great and then the next is a bust. The bite should start being more consistant shortly if they are going to come in at all. Remember, last year because of the low water, we didn't get the Shiner movement we expected. Hopefully this year they will come in like a couple of years ago. It should improve in a couple of weeks, when I have to go up, fishing ready or not!!!! Kaz

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WCT

It's still a little early for any real fall run. The shiners are still very sporadic. The good news is the river level is up to normal if not slightly above and there is fairly strong current, both good indicators. Once we get past this full moon phase and get some cooler weather I look for a strong shiner run, which should mean WALLEYES. <BR>Good luck. Ol'Sneller

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walleyejon

I know the fishing will be better in the next few weeks, but I've done fine the past two Saturdays in Four Mile. The wind is what has made it tough. The 'eyes aren't quite in that "see it; eat it" frame of mind, so feeling the bite has been tough with jigs, with 2-3 foot waves. I didn't try it, but I would guess a Lindy or Roach Rig would have been pretty effective, with the fish not hitting hard yet. A really sharp hook was key too, because you only have a split second to set it. As far as the shiners go, they are gathering momentum towards the river, but with our weather finally deciding to warm up, it may be a few days before they are in full force. The graph sure showed a lot of schools in the bay. The water temps are still a few degrees from triggering the fish, but they are getting there. We actually had our best action in the middle of the day Saturday, which is a good sign that the fall rush is close. Good luck....<P>------------------<BR>Fish on gotta go--JON

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only ice

<BR> I was up there last wensday & thursday. we did great at the green marker in the gap! I think the number on the marker was 7. We filled out in 2 hrs. 14 to 19 inches. River shiners & good old gold jigs!! Never moved just sat and bounced it of thr bottom just like ice fishing!

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srj

Jigster, I was up on Sunday and the fishing was pretty good. I'm just down the Cyrus road from you towards Walleye Retreat. Seems mornings are lots better than mid-day. Groups of fish scattered along the pine island dropoff. No biggies, just nice fish. Marlene at Adrians said the bite was good in the gap--lotsa current and a fairly heave jig needed, she said. Should just get better! If you see a silver toyota with a yarcraft behind it in the yard, stop by and say hi.<BR>Steve

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EyesnSchnapps

Some friends have been up, fishing the gap and pine island areas, since last Friday. They have been doing so, so...not alot of big fish yet, only smaller ones. I will be up on Wednesday getting ready for the North Star classic. Hope they are just waiting till I get there!!!

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JIGSTER

Hey, Thanks for all the great reports.Look forward to getting up there in the next couple weeks!Have to see how if the weather cooperates!Good fishin and good luck to all of you fishing the tourney.I fished it the last 2 yrs. and it is a good time.Thanks again!! Jigster

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Kaz

Jigster: When are you going up??? I'll be up on 10/7 for a few days. I've hunted in your area a few times. If your up the same weekend Friday Tacos at Ken-Mar-Kee are great, and the Brew is cold too.... Kaz<p>[This message has been edited by Kaz (edited 09-28-2004).]

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bturck

Kaz, any ice yet??? Just kiddin', it won't be that long though. I've got to run to South Dakota this weekend and do my annual PR with the rancher we stay with and the other super land owners who allow us the use of thier land. Hope you guys all have a great tourney and catch bunches of those wallies. Good luck and hang on. Bill

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JIGSTER

Still lookin' for the latest updates!Kaz,sorry I didn't respond sooner,but I've been focusing on getting a deer with the bow!I was thinking about this weekend to make the trip,but wasn't sure I wanted to fish with a extra 120 tourney boats.Any info greatly appreciated!! Good fishin' Jigster

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Kaz

I was up Tue thru Fri and the bite is on. The Cabala's tourney was on and the fish were huge. Lots of 6 thru 9 and a 10 pounder too. To many boats in the river and bay... I'm done until the Ice!!! ...Kaz

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Dr. Bob

Thanks for the update Kaz.......<P>Man I needed that smile.gif.<P>------------------<BR>The Doctor is in.............Everybody stand back!!!<P>I.B.O.T. # 144<BR>Boundry Waters Chapter

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    • DonkeyHodey
      I eat bass.  I also release bass and typically only keep them to eat when they are by-catch targeting other eaters and I'm in the filleting mood...  (I personally don’t want to keep a bass >~14inches for eating anymore; they don't taste as good (especially in the summer), they have more toxins and I buy the argument that bass help control/balance the bluegill population...) Catch and Release isn’t perhaps the end-all-be-all  for a healthy lake/fishery… Story #1:  My wife caught a nice ~15 incher in mid-May that was missing an eye...--We couldn't keep him then due to season, but it would've been a bit of a dilemma if he’d been caught a week later after full opener.   Do I eat a bigger fish that might be limited to grow big (?mercy killing) or let the survivor continue to survive?   (It did seem likely his lost eye was a result of having been previously caught (?foul hook with a treble hook or removed roughly/carelessly/mishandled?   I could tell stories, and I suppose that could be an interested thread to start:  fish removal techniques you’ve witnessed that horrify you...  This, perhaps, highlights what Del was getting at in terms of harvest vs. annoying the fish…) Agree with Don.  Wasting of ANY fish is awful.  Story #2:  I was fishing this spring in the river and caught a big ol’ beauty of a white sucker (personal best!); when I released it, I was mocked by fellow shore-fishermen for throwing back a "carp" and they advised me the "right thing to do" is pitch it up on the shore...   (there's still alot of fisherman that believe the DNR actually encourages destruction of "rough fish")  I politely reminded them this big treasure is likely providing (through its baby suckers) future countless meals for their precious walleyes…  This argument was laughed at…  But back to bass…--Rodbender—I think you'll find very few anglers interested in a stranger telling them which fish they can or cannot keep...  It comes across as “stop eating MY future big bass!”  A lake is very much designed to thrive with harvest, and I would point out, releasing everything doesn’t always cleanly equal “more big fish.” There's comments here about the northern pike that perhaps highlight this paradox;  numerous lakes in MN had a ridiculous slot limit (release all norts <40 inches) that effectively made nort fishing catch and release (since the central and southern lakes effectively can’t produce a 40 incher and even if it could, eating one would be, well, interesting…).  The goal was to produce more big fish—the end result was lakes infested with <20 inch snakes that no one seems to want (and end up a nuisance by-catch when targeting anything else.)  Furthermore, those numerous small norts grow very slowly (and die of “old age” at 27 inches…)  (…thus, now the DNR is expending resources to try and encourage harvest and hence the (in my opinion) move in the right direction with the 2018 nort regulation changes…)  Yes, I know bass and norts are 2 VERY different species and react differently to lake/season/climate conditions, but lakes/fish/nature doesn’t always behave as we intuitively “know” it will.  A fellow fisher (that is eating “your bass”) might be reducing competition for remaining bass and potentially increasing their growth velocity in the lake.  (I will again repeat:  A lake is very much designed to thrive with harvest--be it humans, eagles, loons, cormorants, bears, snapping turtles, other fish, etc…  I know, we humans tend to be greediest, and take our harvest to unsustainable damaging extremes, but, that’s why we have rules/DNR/etc…  Just my thoughts…) Rodbender—If you want more big bass, there’s a good argument that you should harvest and eat (do not waste!) more small northern pike; they are outcompeting the bass for forage.    (It’ll likely get you farther than trying to guilt/change/bully what is otherwise legal behavior in others…)
    • ozzie
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    • leech~~
      Lol, had this happen many times on lakes in the Brainerd area and north.   One nice quite morning my buddy and I got up before day light to fish for Eye's in a small channel between lakes he has a cabin on.  No one in sight on the lake. About 8:30 am we hear this loud roar coming around the point and about 15 Bass boats with 150 to 300 hp motors flying WOT around the point and right up this small channel!  Thought we were going to get hit or swamped by their wakes! 🤪   I'm all for boys having fun with their toys but asking others to not keep fish they are making a big game out of, not so much! 😕   That being said I have only kept 3 Bass in my life. One's on the wall and 2 I eat to give it a try and never eat another there after. 
    • LoonASea
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    • rodbender27
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    • Wanderer
      My, that’s a pretty fish!
    • Surface Tension
      Sorry to hear that.  I hope the scrap yard has their contact information and they're tracked down.
    • Surface Tension
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    • gimruis
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