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[Nick Kuhn]

Take a good look at the 2012 election map that reflects the state size by population instead of simple acreage. Tuesday may be the lowest national turnout since 1942 by % voting. Advantage republicans. Turnout in 2016 will be like 2012. And the map then will look a lot like....

Also voter turnout rank vs Presidential voting in 2012:

1. D - Minnesota

2. D - Wisconsin

3. D - Colorado

4. D - New Hampshire

5. D - Iowa

6. D - Maine

7. D - Virginia

8. D - Maryland

9. D - Massachusetts

10. D - Michigan

11. R - North Carolina

12. D - Ohio

13. D - Washington

14. D - Oregon

15. R - Montana

16. D - Florida

17. D - Washington D.C.

18. R - Missouri

19. D - New Jersey

20. D - Delaware

21. D - Connecticut

22. R - North Dakota

23. R - Louisianna

24. R - Idaho

25. D - Vermont

26. R - Nebraska

27. R - Mississippi

28. R - South Dakota

29. D - Pennsylvania

30. R - Alabama

31. D - Illinois

32. R - Wyoming

33. R - Alaska

34. R - Georgia

35. D - Rhode Island

36. R - Kansas

37. D - Nevada

38. R - South Carolina

39. R - Utah

40. R - Indiana

41. D - California

42. R - Kentucky

43. D - New Mexico

44. D - New York

45. R - Arizona

46. R - Tennessee

47. R - Arkansas

47. R - Texas

49. R - Oklahoma

50. R - West Virginia

51. D - Hawaii

It is a very strong correlation. And yes, in 2016 voter turnout will be considerably higher in 2016. Midterm elections are always "old people enjoy huge 25+ point advantage in who votes". It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican messages, but more of a general attitude that President is the only vote that matters in young people. In Presidential years, the margin is much closer and things tend to be decided on the issues, not who old people favor.

[tacklejunkie]

The denial in this thread and others related to the 2014 midterms is astounding. They either believe or are trying to convince themselves that because voter turn out was not as high as in 2012, the president and his policies are actually popular.

They, like the president, believe that an apathetic electorate is really an endorsement of BHO. That's why the president made that "for the 2/3rds that didn't vote" line

In fact,this president is unpopular, so much so that Democrats running wouldn't even admit to voting for him.

They will not or cannot admit BHO is the problem and the reason why last night happened.

[Nick Kuhn]

The denial in this thread and others related to the 2014 midterms is astounding.

All the while forgetting they have a president whose unpopular, whose policies are unpopular, so much so that Democrats running wouldn't even admit to voting for him. And he now polls low amongst practically every demographic group with the exception of black people

They will not or cannot admit BHO is the problem and the reason why last night happened.

[tacklejunkie]

[Well Republicans held the house, and their goal was to make Obama unpopular. I'm not speculating or paraphrasing here, it is a direct quote:

So it's everyone else's fault why BHO is unpopular? LOL!! That's a new one!!

You sound like Hannity and others who blamed GWB's unpopularity on the media

Besides, the GOP only held the House since Jan 2011

The president is merely a victim. Even though the GOP is also unpopular.

If folks want to know why this president seems to exist in an alternative reality, look no further than his dwindling base of supporters

Nothing will ever cut through that level of misplaced devotion. Like I said earlier, his supporters cannot or will not accept that what happened Tues was a result of him. Not just a result of the normal midterm dynamics, or any love for the GOP. BHO...100%

However, the Democrats who will be in the House and Senate know the truth. It will be interesting going forward to see how many of them will stick out their necks and risk their jobs for this president. And after Tuesday, it will be interesting to see how many of them want to go into the next election cycle as defenders of ObamaCare,

[Ufatz]

The history books are going to describe these recent years in harsh and embarrassing terms For a major political party to freely and openly admit that it's main goal is the destruction of a sitting president is one of the most despicable periods in our history. He may or may not have been the greatest man elected to that office (I suspect he will be treated well by historians) but it is very difficult to pull the wagon when you have little or no help and in fact have people pulling the other way.

The GOP has gone way down in my mind even though I have many friends-still friends- who are lifelong believers.

As a party, it ought to be ashamed and I think that will finally come to some of them.

The country elected a young man who perhaps was not ready for that high office but did the best he could with the tools he had. But truly, how many of us ARE ready for that mighty and powerful job?

[swamptiger]

Seriously, it should be quite obvious that neither party has any concept of the word "shame".

[upnorth]

The history books are going to describe these recent years in harsh and embarrassing terms For a major political party to freely and openly admit that it's main goal is the destruction of a sitting president is one of the most despicable periods in our history. He may or may not have been the greatest man elected to that office (I suspect he will be treated well by historians) but it is very difficult to pull the wagon when you have little or no help and in fact have people pulling the other way.

The GOP has gone way down in my mind even though I have many friends-still friends- who are lifelong believers.

As a party, it ought to be ashamed and I think that will finally come to some of them.

The country elected a young man who perhaps was not ready for that high office but did the best he could with the tools he had. But truly, how many of us ARE ready for that mighty and powerful job?

Some of his own party is trying to disown him. Does that not tell you something?

[Uncle Bill]

Well Republicans held the house, and their goal was to make Obama unpopular. I'm not speculating or paraphrasing here, it is a direct quote:

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." - Mitch McConnell

It's easy to understand why Obama is unpopular when that is the vast majority of the Republicans efforts for the past 6 years.

How have they done it? They have made every effort to make Obamacare fail. Remember Boehner trying to sue the President. Let's review the reasons why:

"In a 225-201 vote, the House told Mr. Boehner (R., Ohio) to move ahead with the suit. House GOP leaders have said they would focus the suit on the White House's decision last year to give employers a one-year reprieve on enforcing a requirement under the Affordable Care Act that they offer health coverage or pay a penalty. The requirement was delayed until 2015, and the White House then revised the health law further by saying employers with between 50 and 99 full-time workers wouldn't have to comply or pay a fee until 2016."

Read that carefully. Boehner sued to President for delaying implementation of Obamacare. Why would Boehner want to see Obamacare implemented sooner? That's right, because he wants it to fail. He would rather see people suffer due to provisions being enacted before they were ready just to garner more hatred for Obamacare than to protect you from the harm implementing it too hastily would have done.

[Uncle Bill]

but it is very difficult to pull the wagon when you have little or no help and in fact have people pulling the other way.

Yeah, well you got a point there.

But it's quite natural for sane rational people to take exception to having their wagon pulled off a cliff.

[Uncle Bill]

Geographer

Cartoon maps for any occasion.

Stick men not included. Ages 3 to 70..

[BuckSutherland]

Nick Kuhn that was probably the stupidest post I have ever read.

And Ufatz

I hope that POS gets described for what he is; the guy that sent this country into financial doom.

[LMITOUT]

The denial in this thread and others related to the 2014 midterms is astounding. They either believe or are trying to convince themselves that because voter turn out was not as high as in 2012, the president and his policies are actually popular.

They, like the president, believe that an apathetic electorate is really an endorsement of BHO. That's why the president made that "for the 2/3rds that didn't vote" line

In fact,this president is unpopular, so much so that Democrats running wouldn't even admit to voting for him.

They will not or cannot admit BHO is the problem and the reason why last night happened.

Nailed it.

[tacklejunkie]

Nick Kuhn that was probably the stupidest post I have ever read.

And Ufatz

I hope that POS gets described for what he is; the guy that sent this country into financial doom.

Their posts have a Yogi Berra type ring to them.

"The president and his policies wouldn't be opposed if he had no opposition to them"

[Slabasaurus]

I guess I didn't see that one. I did see Obama saying it was very unlikely Ebola would come to the US, like a week before the guy in Dallas got sick.

It was a radio ad put out by the MN GOP on monday/tuesday. I heard it 2x on the way into work, 2x on the way home on monday, 2x on the way in on tuesday, and 1x before I got to the polls tuesday evening.

I thought it was a spoof at first it was so ridiculous.

[Big Dave2]

The country elected a young man who perhaps was not ready for that high office but did the best he could with the tools he had. But truly, how many of us ARE ready for that mighty and powerful job?

[Slabasaurus]

Quote:

Geographer

Quote:

Cartoon maps for any occasion.

Stick men not included. Ages 3 to 70..

Here's that comic explained for you - in case you did not get it.

In the comic, by comparing three graphs, Cueball comes to the conclusion that the audience (presumably the owners/operators of "our site") should adjust their content or advertising to cater to Martha Stewart and furry porn fans.

The actual reason the graphs are same is they all match the population concentration in the US, because there is no relation between geographic location and any of mentioned sub-population. The title text reflect similar situation in world maps, where the HSOforum written in English is read by English-speaking users no matter the location, so the visitors' geographic graph matches the graph of English speaking population.

[Uncle Bill]

Yep ... the loyal oppositions buck toothed stepchild, the MN GOP,

aka "the anomally", embarressed the family again.

No House Republican incumbent lost this year, in fact, it appears that they will gain 11 seats.

Ouch, embarrass me sum mo...

Party on...

[Uncle Bill]

Here's that comic explained for you - in case you did not get it.

[KawishiwiKid]

I would guess the messages in this thread are the same as would have been posted in 2010. For all the very same reasons and arguments. It was bit sad, but very funny to pics of devastated surprise when Dems won in 2012. Again I suspect we will live this all over again in two years.

[delcecchi]

It was a radio ad put out by the MN GOP on monday/tuesday. I heard it 2x on the way into work, 2x on the way home on monday, 2x on the way in on tuesday, and 1x before I got to the polls tuesday evening.

I thought it was a spoof at first it was so ridiculous.

That explains it. I rarely listen to radio that has commercials. KRPR and MPR News and Current are about it.

[Slabasaurus]

I don't think we can get into more details about Martha Stewart and Furry Porn Fans here on the GOP Echo Chamber good old HSO. Even in sillytown.

[Big Dave2]

That explains it. I rarely listen to radio that has commercials. KRPR and MPR News and Current are about it.

So you prefer Government subsidized radio. Got it.

[leech~~]

I was stuck in an ice house on a lake up in Ely for a whole weekend and the only channel I could get on the radio at all was Moscow's Peoples Radio!

It was hard to listen to them go on and on about one special needs program after another and if they could just get some more funding for this or that they could save the world!

[Canon Guy]

It was hard to listen to them go on and on about one special needs program after another and if they could just get some more funding for this or that they could save the world!

Weird, because MPR is mostly entertainment shows on the weekend.

[Duffman]

Not to mention that WELY comes in loud and clear as well as the KQ affiliates based out of Daloot.

I think somebody's stretching things a tad.

[leech~~]

Not to mention that WELY comes in loud and clear as well as the KQ affiliates based out of Daloot.

I think somebody's stretching things a tad.

It was a crappy little radio! And yep, in between the whining for money they had some other programing!

[delcecchi]

So you prefer Government subsidized radio. Got it.

KRPR is supported by donations. And since I am paying for MPR I might as well listen to it.

I take it you don't drive on Government roads? Or eat Government subsidized food? Or fly on Government subsidized airlines? Or catch government managed fish from government owned waters?

Good on you. I'm not that pure.

[leech~~]

KRPR is supported by donations. And since I am paying for MPR I might as well listen to it.

I take it you don't drive on Government roads? Or eat Government subsidized food? Or fly on Government subsidized airlines? Or catch government managed fish from government owned waters?

Good on you. I'm not that pure.

Or pay Tax's so the Government that works for "US" can provide the services that we need!

[delcecchi]

I pay the same taxes no matter who I listen to on the radio. Or did I miss a credit?

[Big Dave2]

KRPR is supported by donations.