Carver Trestle

[Shack]

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I guess if it was me I wouldn't recommend using any sort of trolling motor.

I knew somebody would say that .

I would listen to Dtro if you are going to attempt the down stream run.

I have only done it once and I am sure he has done it many times.

As we sat up stream and wonder what to do, my similar experiences I have been in with fast current, tight/narrow bend and rocks up on the Miss. North rang in my head. My big motor with limited steering radius, over compensation power and just how it works has failed me in years past. Plus, during a correction and the lower unit gets hung up or trashed, I figured the trolling motor would be going down any ways. My boat is in its own breed I might add. Fully loaded. it only sits in the water like 9-10" and the lower unit drops another 14". I can effectively run my trolling motor and control my boat in the 9-10" range, leaving me an extra 14" of dead head protection . Most boats are not like this. I just figured the river has the power, I needed to just to pick the correct path to approach and ride the lightning.

All I can say is we made it pretty easy and that’s the only reason why I mention it. I just know with my 115hp, I would never had any amount of "quick" correction and the trolling motor in front acted like a thruster of sorts.

I would do it Dtro’s way, unless you feel other ways.

I would sure hate to hear something happened to some one, while using their bow mount trolling motor.

[JimBuck]

Is this the trestle located in shakopee off 101? I was going to take my maiden voyage in my boat from that launch going upstream....not a good idea? I'm willing to drive to a better launch if it means personal safety.

[wastewaterguru]

Not the same tressle. The one we are talking about is about 8 miles upriver from Shakopee. Past Chaska, in Carver.

Unless the railroad clears that debris occasionally, it is only a matter of time before she comes down on her own. The force of the river on that log jam has to eventually reached a critical point....

Pay close attention to the pillars. I made a post a couple years ago about the block pillar (first one on the left going upstream). It had already been stressed enough to be off-center. I even called the railroad on it and they confirmed that they were aware of the situation. Not sure if anyone remembers that post.....I couldn't find it with the site search engine.

It's coming down......just wait a couple years.

[wastewaterguru]

It is pretty likely that the river may block us off this year. The north side is much shallower and as the water drops the whole thing may be blocked. Mother Nature just keeping us on our toes. If that pile ever comes free......you better hope you're back isn't turned upriver.

That is a HUGE pile of deadheads just waiting to be set free.

[rattleL]

yea i went up it monday night and that sucker is rough u gotta hug the piling and push through otherwise thier is logs on the other side in that one open gate, but yea i wouldnt wanna be downstream when those deadheads let loose

[DTro]

after the last high water, that snag is impressive to say the least.

Like you said I would hate to think of being downstream if that thing ever broke loose.

[wastewaterguru]

http://www.fishingminnesota.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/357698/Searchpage/1/Main/52467/Words/railroad+bridge+carver/Search/true/Re_Carver_Rail_Bridge#Post357698

Here was the previous discussion

[Shack]

Here ya go WWG. Click here!

[harvey lee]

How about we go down there and place a few well placed blasting caps in the log jam? I bet we could clean her up but I worry asbout the house windows in Carver.

[Shack]

It is most likely the closest thing to an old fashion 1800's log jam (cut timber) that I have ever seen. You can walk around on most of that stuff.

[DTro]

I may or may not know someone who may or may not have access to the "right tools" for the job.

[harvey lee]

Either you do or you don't Dtro. None of this maybe stuff.

Couldn't be much different than blowing tree stumps.

[Shack]

I grew up by farm on the north end or ER that had a stash of tree up sticks .

They where old, but still worked. One of the Grandsons of the farmer and my best friend found the stash. Years later I read in the paper when they demoed that chicken coop attached to the barn, they found that stash. The bomb squad removed it .

M-80’s and high explosives are two whole different worlds my friend.

[harvey lee]

I realize that. My father and grandfather cleared many acres using dynomite. One needs to know what they are doing and still be very careful but it gets the job done well.

[AceintheHole]

Why don't you guys just blow the thing up Trestle and all. Eliminate the problem completely. Sounds like an event for the get together.

[harvey lee]

The trestle might be needed yet.

[HossFisher]

I say we let it get bigger, add a few logs, use a few nails, and make it a giant dock so you can jig off the side of it in the middle of the river for us shore dwellers who dont have boats!

[Shack]

Sorry Tom

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M-80’s and high explosives are two whole different worlds my friend.

I ment that as a general realization of my self, not for you We where lucky nothing ever happened to us

[wastewaterguru]

I'll take your word for the walking around on it stuff.

You fall through that jam and it's game over.

Getting washed into it is almost as bad.

This is always a dangerous stretch of river that should make you WANT to wear the vest and have the throwable handy.

[Shack]

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I'll take your word for the walking around on it stuff.

You would not catch me "ever" trying to walk around on the jam , even though one could to a point (if you where a lumber jack from the 1800's).

If you read back, this area was one of the first times in years where we put the vest's when coming down at night. Very good idea at any time though.

[harvey lee]

Boy, I agree. I cannot think of what might happen to one if they fell out of the boat there. I believe it would be game over and lights out.

[wastewaterguru]

I am pretty sure that blowing it up is second to getting the crane up on the track and taking it apart piece by piece like I have seen them do before.

Although blowing it up would be a little more dramatic and sudden, it could swamp some boats down river as the jam comes down in one fell swoop.

[rattleL]

my foreman says that they closed that rail down cuz it broken upspream and then in chaska it just ends i guess so i think dynamite will be the only solution....i would love to watch

[DTro]

I'm pretty sure they can still get a crane out on the railway from downstream, but yes you are correct it did collapse about a mile upstream from the trestle.

[Grant]

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I'll take your word for the walking around on it stuff.

You would not catch me "ever" trying to walk around on the jam , even though one could to a point (if you where a lumber jack from the 1800's).

If you read back, this area was one of the first times in years where we put the vest's when coming down at night. Very good idea at any time though.

no kidding... at this point in my life I sure don't have the cojones to try that stunt. (although about 10 years ago I'd have tried *amazed I'm still alive sometimes*

[DTro]

We had to do a little maintenance on the trestle passage tonight. A tree fell over and blocked the only path. We were out there with saws in hand.

It still is very hairy and if you have any thought that your motor might have issues, do not go upstream. This is not a passage you want to float back down through.

This tree is not going anywhere for a while, so it was either forget about fishing upstream for a long time, or get out there and clear a path.

[harvey lee]

Thanks for the clean up in isle 4 Dtro.

[wastewaterguru]

Sure, I get whacked in the back of the head by a tree and DTRO gets all the thanks.........

[DTro]

Yeah, WWG really took one for the team last night.

If it makes you feel any better, when it was all said and done and I knew you were OK.......it made me laugh

[harvey lee]

Thanks WWG, I didn't know you took one for the team.

You are the man.