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nofishfisherman

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nofishfisherman

According to the Star Tribs kevin Seiffert the Seahawks reworked their other lineman Walter Jones's contract so that hutchinson would still be the highest paid lineman for part of 2006.

However the contract the vikes signed him to required Hutchinson to be the highest paid lineman for all of 2006 and if Seattle retains him he would not be the highest paid lineman for the entire year so the contract would still be garunteed.

The arbitrator is still supposed to decide now if the contract requires Hutchinson to be the highest paid lineman all year or just part of it.

We should know by 4pm according to the article.

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Jarrod32

The arbitrator ruled in favor of the Vikes, but like you mentioned, the Seahawks re-worked the other lineman's contract so that Hutchinson will be the highest paid lineman...expect the Seahawks to match the Vikings' offer by the midnight deadline.

Source: ESPN

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island guy

No surprise. Seattle keeps Hutchinson. I try to keep upbeat about the Vikes but this ownership and coach makes it hard. Seattle papers have been reporting correctly how this would go down from the beginning. Vikes wound up screwing themselves by locking up money for a week on a player most people knew they wouldn't get. I guess inexperience in the Vikes management is showing. Gonna be a long year I'm afraid!

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cybermuskie

Update below

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cybermuskie

Here's what I found:

Sounds like we may have a chance yet

Updated: March 20, 2006, 6:35 PM ET

SEATTLE -- The Seahawks must match the guarantee provision in the $49 million, seven-year deal offered to All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson by the Minnesota Vikings if the NFC champions want to keep their transition player.

Special master Stephen Burbank, the University of Pennsylvania law professor who serves as the final word in many key contractual disputes, ruled against Seattle, saying a provision guaranteeing all of the $49 million in an offer sheet Hutchinson signed with Minnesota should he not be the team's highest-paid offensive lineman is valid.

"The Seahawks lost," NFL Players' Association general counsel Richard Berthelsen said Monday. The hearing was held in Philadelphia.

The Seahawks had until midnight ET Monday to match the Vikings' offer or lose Hutchinson to Minnesota.

Berthelsen attended a two-hour hearing Monday morning in Philadelphia on the matter.

The Vikings' seven-year offer, which Hutchinson signed on March 12, included $16 million guaranteed. It would be the richest deal ever given to a guard. And Monday's ruling means it just got richer.

The Seahawks had argued Monday morning that because they have recently re-negotiated Pro Bowl left tackle Walter Jones' $54.5 million, seven-year contract by adding an eighth, voidable year, Jones' team-best lineman deal now has an annual value below that of Hutchinson's offer.

After the re-negotiation, Jones' annual base salary would dip to $6.81 million -- just below Hutchinson's $7 million annual average if Seattle matched Minnesota's offer. The Seahawks argued Monday morning they should not have to guarantee the rest of Hutchinson's new deal.

Berthelsen said special master Stephen Burbank did not elaborate in his ruling.

But Berthelsen said the decision validated the NFLPA's stance that the conditions at the time Hutchinson signed the offer sheet with the Vikings are the conditions Seattle must match -- meaning Hutchinson wasn't the highest-paid Seahawks linemen then, so Seattle must guarantee all $49 million of the Vikings' deal to match it.

"They wanted to put in additional language to make it from any point from now until the end of the 2006 league year," Berthelsen said. "That is contrary to the intent of the wording that was in the contract.

"And the special master agreed."

The Seahawks did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.

Information from ESPN.com senior writer John Clayton was included in this

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Chad Halvorson

Now Burleson signed a tender with Seattle. The Vikes are making horrible moves, horrible.

They made 1 correct one , which was firing Mike Tice. After that, its been horrid. frown.gif

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cybermuskie

Where did ya see that? I can't find anything on that. Even so, Burleson doesn't really bother me. At least for him we would get a 3rd round pick for him! He was going to be our big stud last year, and he failed.

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jigging wader

It's over vikings got him !!!

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cybermuskie

Brad johnson is one happy dude right now!

Updated: March 21, 2006, 12:09 AM ET

Seahawks let Vikings take Hutchinson for $49M John Clayton

ESPN.com

The Seahawks decided Monday not to match the seven-year, $49 million offer sheet on Steve Hutchinson, allowing the All-Pro guard to go to the Minnesota Vikings.

The seven-day deadline to match the Vikings' seven-year, $49 million offer sheet expired at midnight ET Monday. The Seahawks did not notify Hutchinson, the Vikings or his agent, Tom Condon, that they were going to match the offer. By letting the deadline pass, Hutchinson became property of the Vikings.

As the deadline was passing, the Seahawks entered serious negotiations with 49ers linebacker Julian Peterson. The Seahawks regained $6.391 million of cap room by letting Hutchinson leave for Minnesota. The $6.391 million represented the one-year tender Hutchinson had as a transition player.

Earlier Monday, the Seahawks lost a ruling with special master Stephen Burbank in which they wanted to make a slight change in the language of the Vikings' offer sheet to avoid having to guarantee the entire $49 million had they matched. Burbank called the adjustment a change in the principle term of the contract and ruled in favor of Hutchinson and the Vikings.

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Fishin Beast

Wait so we got Hutch or the Seahawks got him?

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cybermuskie

Vikes got Hutch!

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Quickstrike

finally, a little encouraging news about the vikes!

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buzzsaw

Quote:

No surprise. Seattle keeps Hutchinson. I try to keep upbeat about the Vikes but this ownership and coach makes it hard. Seattle papers have been reporting correctly how this would go down from the beginning. Vikes wound up screwing themselves by locking up money for a week on a player most people knew they wouldn't get. I guess inexperience in the Vikes management is showing. Gonna be a long year I'm afraid!


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Now Burleson signed a tender with Seattle. The Vikes are making horrible moves, horrible.

They made 1 correct one , which was firing Mike Tice. After that, its been horrid.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2377300

Guys, you really shouldn't be so negative until all the facts are in, and now they are in so how did your emotional overreaction work out for ya? sorry, I had to be sarcastic because when I read your posts earlier tonight all I could think about was the soundbite from KFAN "All the negativity in this town stinks" Boy oh boy I now know who he's talking about. tongue.gif I'm sure that signing won't be enough for some people, confused.gif but I for one, think they are doing a great job... of course I'm not nearly as knowledgable as the people over at Winter Park or some of the people that bash the Vikes organization.

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jigging wader

Read cyber's post it's right above yours, in black and white. Brad Johnson and running backs = happy campers. Now does the 16 million apply to this years salery cap? Do we have enough money to go get another big name?

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cybermuskie

I think I heard that 13 million applies to this years cap, but don't quote me on that. And I don't think Nate B. did get a offer from Seattle. I can't find anything saying that. There again...don't quote me grin.gif

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JIvers

Acquiring Hutchinson is good news indeed. With Birk back, there will be a "ripple effect" on the offensive line's play as a whole, as one more good blocker relieves the load on other, less skilled players. Hutchinson adds to that, although he may not have an immediate impact as he learns a new system. Barring serious injuries (always a concern), the o-line should look significantly better by the end of the season.

If Burleson does leave, it is not a huge loss. He was a good second receiver, but not a great receiver. The Vikings signed Koren Robinson, which is who they really needed to keep. Travis Taylor can fill Burleson's role quite well. I am also not giving up hope on Troy Williamson, who has a world of potential. His rookie season was not stellar, but few wideouts have great first years.

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IFallsRon

Three yards and a cloud of turf.

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cybermuskie

I wonder if the Vikes are shopping for anymore linemen? I know they were talking to Neal from the Pats. I still am a bt suprised they haven't talked to Runyan for the other side. I would have thought Childress would have been all over that, but maybe he's getting to old and they don't want to pay that much for him. Maybe if he doesn't get any good offers we could get him to sign a 1-2 year contract. We could have one of the best lines in the league. Just a thought!

So how much gas do you think Richardson has in his tank? He's 34 or something,but maybe they only want him for a year or two.

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nofishfisherman

It seems like the vikes have been staying away from older guys. With the excpetion on Richardson all of the guys they brought in have many years left in the tank.

I almost prefer that approach over going and getting a big name guy who is already a star but is closing in on the end of his career.

This team should be together for a few years now which is huge in the NFL.

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lawdog

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Three yards and a cloud of turf.


Maybe its just me, but I have no clue what this post means or what it even refers to?!?!?!!!!!! confused.gif

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Chad Halvorson

I dont know why the Burleson signing hasnt shown up on espn. Then again, I was told by a friend in Seattle that knows his stuff. His son played BB with Dwayne Wade of the heat. Anyways, Nate is from the Seattle area and they lost J.J., so I wouldnt be surprised.

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Havin' Fun

Isn't Wade from Milwaukee?

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nofishfisherman

Why does having a son that played with Wade prove that he knows his stuff? confused.gif

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cybermuskie

By Tim Yotter

Date: Mar 23, 2006

The latest on the Nate Burleson situation, the backup quarterback search and various other Vikings-related notes.

While the Vikings wait on the fate of restricted free agent wide receiver Nate Burleson, there is some good news for the team in that situation.

The Vikings tendered Burleson a $712,000 offer, meaning other teams can negotiate a contract with him, but the Vikings would have seven days to match another offer or receive a third-round draft pick as compensation if they declined to match.

Burleson met with Seattle late last week, and the Seahawks were expected to sign him to an offer sheet. To this point, that still hasn’t happened.

However, the Seahawks, looking for a No. 2 receiver opposite Darrell Jackson, are also investigating other options at the position.

Kansas City free agent wide receiver Marc Boerigter was expected to visit Seattle as well.

The Vikings would like to match any offer Burleson might receive, but a team like the Seahawks, who have a lot of room under the salary cap after the loss of Steve Hutchinson to the Vikings, could make it difficult for Minnesota if an offer sheet were front-loaded.

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Down to Earth

Maybe Seattle will put in a clause in the contract where Burleson has to be paid higher than the teams starting left guard for this season and if he isn't then his whole contract is guaranteed. laugh.gif

Actually though a third round pick wouldn't be too bad for Burleson. I think he'd fit in good there as a #2 WR.

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