Fish Scream

[vikingtom]

I like milk and I like beer. I like meat (red or white) and I like fish. Now if you listen to the experts you're going to starve to death. So lets Drink milk and beer, Eat meat and cheese and go fishing and die from Mercury. Live Long and have some fun guys. I am.

[Long Gray Line]

Ok, so let me get this straight. You can't go outside because of the UV rays and cancer. You can't stay inside because of the radon and cancer. You can't breath the air because of the pollutants and cancer. You can't drink the water because of the PCB's and cancer. You can't eat the meat because of the fat/hormones and cancer. You can't eat fish because of mercury and cancer. You can't eat the vegetables because of the pesticides and cancer. Hmmm. It seems to me that actually RESEARCH causes cancer. Pretty soon we'll find out that saliva causes cancer, but only when swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time. To h### with it, I'm going fishing!!

[Jim W]

Okay, I have to step in! This has gone overboard. Opinions are fine, but please make sure you read everything in a individuals post beofre making a fool out of yourself, getting all bent out of shape and personally attacking them!

Have something political that you need to argue, there is a forum for it!!

What's the point, go fishing while you still can!!!!

Happy Days are here again, it's FALL!!!!!!

Jim W

PS> Fish do scream you know!

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[Guest]

O.K. All,
Lets clear the air a bit, and stick to the facts and the subject. To clear up some asumptions that may or may not have been insinuated toward me; I have spent more than my fair share of time on a dairy farm, milking cows, cultivating fields, applying fertilizer and pesticides to crops, cutting and baling hay, working the books, I have been involved in all aspects of dairy and beef production, and know them very well from first hand experience. I am a decorated veteran of the United States Army, I have served my time to help protect our freedom (Got Gasoline?). I am not young and I am not naive. I am college educated, I hold baccalaureate degrees in both biology and conservation, I love nature, the outdoors in general, and most of all fishing. I am willing to continue discussions here with anyone willing to discuss facts, If you would like to discuss information related to the impact of agriculture on fish and wildlife habitat, I am more than willing. I think this thread may have the potential to become a real eye opener to more than a few folks. We need to discuss and debate the issues in a civil manner, If you are unfamiliar with the rules of this forum, I would ask that you review them for the benefit of us all. This is a great website, hosted by a generous group of folks dedicated to allowing for civil discussions on all sorts of topics related to fishing and the great outdoors, lets respect that, and keep the great dialog that has become a tradition on this site going!

To reiterate and clarify my point, (and tangental diatribe) I find the information on the impacts of agriculture on fish and wildlife habitat to be most alarming, an issue for every sportsman to at least consider. I am willing to discuss and debate the various aspects of this issue, as the future of our beloved past-time will to some extent be impacted by agricultural activities. If we can continue with a civil discussion, perhaps this thread will be of some usefullness, If we can not be civil, better it become "locked".

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[Guest]

Fact, go ahead and look it up.

Organic waste from cattle and other livestock, pesticides, chemical fertilizers, and agricultural salts and sediments are the primary non-point sources of water pollution in the U.S.

What is the solution, anybody willing to cut back a little on the consumption of animal products so that in the future you and/or your children might be able to enjoy clean lakes and streams?

Any other solutions out there?

[Surface Tension]

When beer starts flowing from a mothers breast I will then belive its better then milk for kids. Wouldnt that be a HOOTer.
The bar would never close and its always Happy Hour.

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[Valv]

Coldone, let it rest, there is no sense killing each other over issues where one fact contraddicts another. For every study you find about something, there's one saying exact opposite. I am a STRONG anti PETA and any sort of environmental extremism, so anytime I see that name mentioned, I get irated, very irated.

We disagree on some issues, but reducing the consuption of anumal products it's definitely wrong, besides it's not just hamburgers and milk, as you know there's a lot more.

I agree with Jim W.....let's go fishing....

[LaVoi]

Well I think we can only beat a dead horse for so long, so Let's Go Fishing.

[Guest]

BBBAAAAAAAAA....BBBAAAAAAAA goes the Sheepshead!

[Raven]

Hey LaVoi, save me a seat in that boat. And leave Peta ashore. Lets fish!

[Guest]

Catfish scream drags!....and they actually bark.

[Guest]

I once caught a fish that sounded like James Brown.

[DARK30]

10-4 on the screaming drags!! Thats the best scream I ever heard! Its enough to wake you right up at 2:30 in the morning!

WET NETS!

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cast,cast,cast,cast......

[Guest]

Do the dogfish chase the catfish? I think i might have seen it happen after drinking a few beers, but never after drinking milk.

[Dave]

The real question......do dogfish sniff other dogfish's bu.....well, you know

[Guest]

Bumper Sticker Philosophy:

If God didn't intend for us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them of meat.

Ancient Dictionary from cave-man era:

Vegetarian - (noun) terrible hunter, but excellent gatherer

Carnivore - (noun) excellent hunter, but terrible gatherer

Omnivore - (noun) decent hunter, and decent gatherer

[Crawlerman]

Nah... Northerns and Carp scream drags better than cats... Cats like to wiggle and stay on the bottom. But they do grunt. Shoulda heard the scream when I hooked into even a 5lb northern with ultralite panfish jigging rod through the ice... Musta stripped off 75 yards off the spool before he decided to stop...

[USPENAMC]

All in Moderation keeps everything in balance i believe. just like too many vitamins can kill you. For every action there is a reaction. There is a good and a bad to everything. take care everyone keep on fishing and enjoy the site

[chunkytrout]

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