MN Pheasant Summit?

[creepworm]

The farmers you describe will not sign up for CRP any more than they will sign up for PLM's plan...so please compare apples to apples.

Feel free to reread my post. Especially the part where I said a majority of the Spike I am selling is being spread on CRP. So, evidently they will sign up for CRP, but do not want trees or shrubs to grow in their CRP.

The majority of the landowners in MN's pheasant range will happily sign up some of their lesser ground into CRP. Funding availability and ridiculous crop prices have kept that from happening. Now that crop prices are lower than break evens for many farmers, it would be the time to put in a good amount of CRP, but the funding is not there.

These same landowners generally do not care about pheasant or deer populations. They like to see pheasants and deer, but not enough to put work or financial backing into raising their populations. They also do not want to have a lot of work if in 10 years they can not get their re-enrolled in these programs. So, if we want to raise the pheasant population it looks like it will be because of grass.

[creepworm]

"The majority of the landowners" that you are referring to probably don't want any habitat program.

So then you agree with me?

[BLACKJACK]

With the harvest now if full push and such a dry fall, there will little residual food around many WMAs and WPAs - just black dirt.

The combines are so much more efficient nowadays that when they're done you'd have a hard time finding a five gallon buck of corn off a picked 80 acre corn field. Then after it gets tilled up, I'll be you couldn't fill an ice cream bucket. What are the pheasants supposed to eat?

[LandDr]

"it would be the time to put in a good amount of CRP, but the funding is not there."

Wrong...it is there. If the funding isn't there, how did I just get done signing up all the options for the land in SD? How? Because the funding IS there.

You profess to know my business and everything I can or can't do...yet you have not worn my hat or walked a day in my shoes nor have given me your contact information to review your property and present you with options. So...until you care to step up to the plate, please do not tell me or anyone else what we can or can't do. And please stop grinding your ax!

In the meantime, I have several other properties to get plans together for to take advantage of all the funding and opportunities that is available.

Land Dr

[creepworm]

Wrong...it is there. If the funding isn't there, how did I just get done signing up all the options for the land in SD? How? Because the funding IS there.

http://gfp.sd.gov/pheasantsummit/docs/2014%20Farm%20Bill%20CRP%20Changes.pdf

Just looking at the table at the top of this link you will see that we will not even be able to keep what we have, much less gain any ground with these conservation programs. Every time you sign someone up for CRP and get cost sharing for them to maximize carrying capacity that is awesome. I am happy you do it. However, it is only a minor win because those acres you are creating a plan for are simply being taken away from somewhere else.

With the reduction in acres that can be enrolled in CRP it means they are more selective in the acres they enroll. Seeing this thread is about MN, that is terrible news. Across most of the pheasant range in MN the land is not considered highly erodible, therefore those CRP acres will most likely end up going elsewhere, such as the Dakotas.

No matter how you look at it, habitat acreage will shrink do to decreased funding.

The funding IS there?

Not in my eyes.

[creepworm]

You profess to know my business and everything I can or can't do...yet you have not worn my hat or walked a day in my shoes nor have given me your contact information to review your property and present you with options. So...until you care to step up to the plate, please do not tell me or anyone else what we can or can't do. And please stop grinding your ax!

First of all, the land is not mine. Second of all, the land is leased to a farmer for the next five years at a price that is bordering on absurd. Third, I live 5 hours away, if the land was mine it would be farmed, because I have no use for hunting land that far away when I am surrounded by great hunting land that is much closer.

Therefore, I see no reason to give you my contact information or have you make a plan for this land, seeing it would be a waste of my time and yours.

[carpshooterdeluxe]

All this arguing over a non native species.

[LandDr]

Creep...then it is also a waste of time and inappropriate to make comments such as you do about my services or what I can or can't do. I also find it hypocritical that you comment about others and profess yourself but you have the position of not doing anything for one reason or another. "I live 5 hours away, if the land was mine it would be farmed, because I have no use for hunting land that far away when I am surrounded by great hunting land that is much closer." LOL...don't do anything if it was yours but cut down everyone else down for what they are doing? Sorry...I've heard enough.

I need to get to work...another property to design. Have a great day!

[CaptainMusky]

The pheasant summit looks to be open to all. Check out the MN DNR webpage and register. I encourage all who can attend to do so.

Also, if you are not able to attend, there will be a survey and there is an opportunity to send Dayton, comments or questions.

Lots of opportunity to get your voice, comments, questions out there.

[CaptainMusky]

All this arguing over a non native species.

We're a non-native species as well, so what's your point???

[Bureaucrat]

I hope for the pheasant folks out there, that they go better than the deer listening sessions.

[muc33]

My mind is now numb. Kyle, you spend a lot of time in defense of something you sell. I can appreciate that. But, what the general thought here is in my opinion, the readers of this forum would like to see the population at worst stay the same, if not grow. I think all here can agree on that. But, speak your mind at the summit, you can attend, there is no invitee list. All I can see here is your defense of why your way is correct and the others aren't. If that is the case, buy some ads, sell your positives, don't just spend time in defense of your way. It is more likely to become a negative for you than a positive. Just my 2 cents.