• GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

  • WE CREATE LONG TERM, MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS IN HERE ... PLEASE JOIN US.

    You know what we all love...

    RECEIVE THE GIFTS MEMBERS SHARE WITH YOU HERE...THEN...CREATE SOMETHING TO ENCHANT OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE
    When you enchant people, you fill them with delight and yourself in return. Have Fun!!!

Sign in to follow this  
polarispro600

Private spearing lake

Recommended Posts

polarispro600

I was wondering if anyone could answer some questions that I have. I own a private lake about 8-10 acres big and about 8 ft deep. I would like to start stalking the lake with northrens. Now I'm not sure if the lake freezes out. I know I might need an arerator but those are expensive is there any other way I could keep the lake full of oxygen? Also do I need a permit to start stalking the lake? Any suggestions would be very helpful.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
thatoneguy

hard to believe that small and shallow a lake wouldn't run out of oxygen pretty much every winter.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Neiko

Stalking is illegal but stocking isn't with a permit. wink I think you might want to call the DNR. You will probably have to buy the northerns from a private party.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
polarispro600

It does have a couple springs if thy would make a difference for oxygen.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Laska

Springs help put a lot, I looked into northern stocking a little while back and for what you get the price ain't bad at all.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
BehindtheHead

what will the northerns eat?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Gordie

what will the northerns eat?

aLL OF POLARISPRO'S DECOY'S laugh

sorry I couldn't help it and thats a great question Matt

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
polarispro600

Was thinking of also putting in crappie fingerlings and minnows for food.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
polarispro600

It's also full of leaches already

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
fishuhalik

give it a try & see what happens! i'd put fatheads & golden shiners in it too. they fare well in low o2 environments & make great forage. maybe put some gills & bass in too? a friend of mine stocked some bass & gills in his little spring-fed pond up by grand rapids, maybe 8' deep & 2-3 acres. this was about 15yrs ago & last i heard they're still in there. i think a big part of what causes winterkill is heavy snow cover & resulting plant dieoff. it might help to clear snow off during bad winters, but thats just a theory of mine.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
polarispro600

Peas also thinking that plowing the snow cover off Would help also. Thanks for the replies

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
hawkeye43

baby fish whistle Matt, You know better than that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Scott M

Probably won't see many fish that fit between the tines just because it takes a fair amount of space and food to grow big fish and a lake that small has neither, but pike are low dissolved oxygen tolerant and are more likely to make it through the winters than say, panfish, so they have that going for them. The springs also help if that's true and not rumor. Wouldn't cost you much to stock fish with the permit because you don't have oodles of acres to fill. If you were looking for pike forage, I would lean towards yellow perch instead of crappies...better pike forage in general and also another low oxygen tolerant species.

Good luck with your project.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
BehindtheHead

Probably won't see many fish that fit between the tines just because it takes a fair amount of space and food to grow big fish and a lake that small has neither, but pike are low dissolved oxygen tolerant and are more likely to make it through the winters than say, panfish, so they have that going for them. The springs also help if that's true and not rumor. Wouldn't cost you much to stock fish with the permit because you don't have oodles of acres to fill. If you were looking for pike forage, I would lean towards yellow perch instead of crappies...better pike forage in general and also another low oxygen tolerant species.

Good luck with your project.

da chise is there a number you could put with adult pike pre acre on a lake like around where i live? or how many pike can a acre support given good forage base? or can i get that info on the dnr website too. just looking for a wild guess.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Scott M

Best I could find for a stated per acre amount is 3 to 30 pounds per acre, or 1 to 24 fish per acre of fish larger than 14 inches, 1 to 5 fish or 2.5 to 12 pounds per acre of fish larger than 20 inches, and 0 to 1.5 fish or 0 to 7.5 pounds per acre of fish larger than 24 inches. That's from Pierce, R.B. and Tomcko, C.M. (2005) Density and Biomass of Native Northern Pike Populations in Relation to Basin-Scale Characteristics of North-Central Minnesota Lakes. Transactions of the American Fisheries Society 134(1): 231-241.

It's a big range and has more to do with morphometry of the lake rather than productivity, chemistry, or shallow water littoral areas. It also shows how hard it is to produce big pike in general; visualizing a food pyramid is kind of misnomer with pike, it's more like a wedding cake with a huge base (small fish) with a little bitty toothpick on the top (large fish). Big fish just need different habitats than small fish. In SC MN, big pike are in lakes with some depth and poor recruitment. So there is really a big range from lake to lake and it shows. You know there are numbers lakes in our areas with big catches in the gillnets and there are size lakes with very few caught but a large average size...that's a good representation of the big differences in fish per acre.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

Announcements



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • imhatz
    • Cliff Wagenbach
      Del, No I did not troll the spinners and Raps at the same time. I kept switching rigs just to see what would work. I used a 1-1/2 oz. bell sinker on the 3-way rigs and a 2 oz. bottom bouncer with the spinners. Cliff
    • Bigfatbert
      Got 8 nice keeps today in 26 to 36 feet of water in Big Bay from 8:30- almost noon , plus one throw back dink . Six keeps on jig n tiny shiner , and two keeps on jig and small leeches. 1/8 oz jigs . The small shiners were trapped by us .. I pretty much fish a jig all summer long . Although I do realize other methods do have there times out there, I just like jigs , and usually always manage fish on them with either a leech , crawler piece , or a minnow ..
    • Tom Sawyer
      Mother Nature sure has had it in for you the past week, she's making you hone your fish catching skills for sure. Good luck the remainder of your stay Jeff.
    • delcecchi
      You didn't troll them at the same time, right?   How much weight were you using?  
    • delcecchi
      The rusties hadn't gotten to wakemup or Norwegian bays yet, but they are through oak narrows and on the march, from what the DNR said last summer.   I've got my trap waiting. I haven't seen anyone have much success fishing walleye on merry go round for years (and that includes me).   It is like the reef bite pretty much vanished some years back.    But who knows, it could come back if we get a couple good year classes of smaller fish.    The area around the little island (two little islands) where the osprey nest was, to the east of goodwill island, used to be good also but hasn't done much last few years.   Maybe this is the year...
    • Parmer
      It may or may not. Everything i have read is the initial surge from starting it up is close to 2600 watts. And after that it runs at 1600.
    • Borch
      I never have.  Waded in when the kids were swimming.  Nice sunfish and I hear a good bass lake.  A person could portage a boat in there if it weren't too heavy.  I've never stayed there but can see people down at the beach when I fish there.
    • Gone Out Fishin
      On Island lake, I typically had luck fishing smallies near Rice Lake Road. Then the chain of islands east of the bridge has a good reef studded with boulders, moderate side rocks, and timber. Depending on the wind those islands can be good for bass or walleye. Use to use creature baits and crawdads to fish thoroughly.   Gone Out Fishin
    • Naturboy
      It’s not totally remote but I found an app for my phone called “all stays” and it has filter settings and you can find small camp sites where your not surrounded by 30’ rigs. So you don’t feel like your camping on a sidewalk in Chicago.  I found the county park ones are nice without driving 4+ hours away.