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mrklean

Jeff Foiles in trouble

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HugoBox

I think he was suppose to have his day in court last week. Has anyone heard how it went?

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Augusta

Does anyone other than me get the feeling that the "theft" here in MN was staged?

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creepworm

Yes, I got that feeling while I was at Game Fair. He did not seem upset about it and I felt as though he was using it as a way to conjure up sympathy and sell calls.

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sheepheadslayer

I hunted with the guy in CO once a few years back. Had a good time but never had the opportunity to shoot more than our limit tho we wouldn't of had it been a chance. Took him out on the town one night and got pretty tore up. Woke up the next morning to eat breakfast and walked past his truck. The window was half way down and all his calls and cameras and stuff was all laying on the seat. I think the keys may have even been in it. We hunted 2 days with him and shot like 15 geese or something. My experience with him was fine but could see him being arrogent. He did bring some young kids back to the motel from the restaurant and tuned there calls and gave them signed hats and stuff. Even tuned a Zink call for the one kid. Just my 2 cents.

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perch_destroyer

Even tuned a Zink call for the one kid.

LOL laugh

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Quackaddict9

A pro-staffer, Travis Wood of Foiles committed suicide yesterday... could be over all Foiles indicents and what Travis did in Washington this past fall, too much pressure from the feds and CO's out there after him. But who really knows what caused him to do this, sad deal either way.

Although I did see a post Jeff Foiles made about Travis and was blaming other people and it was shame how the way he put it, you would understand if you read what he wrote. I hope Foiles looks at it and takes it back.

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Muthagoose

It was from a seperate incident. Travis's company had a short video clip on Utah state promo,you tube ect.From what I saw shots of gunner shooting clearly shot 4 shells at geese and a guy which turns out to be the camp chef claimed he shot 6 geese with only 3 shells dogging the other gunners in the video.

Reading whats been posted it appears a sponsor called on it and had the video pulled as with several others calling the AG in utah...

I also read the foiles statement and to me he did nothing but dig a bigger hole I wont ever buy anything with his name on it.JMHO.

Theres rumor about charges due to cyber bullying,to a criminal investigation. To me if you stand in the lymelight and post on the web _-_- gets splattered on ya it shows up bigtime.

Some have posted pretty strong about how the view this act..

Ive learned early in life judge and you will be judged by walking in thier shoes.

I dont condone his actions nor do I condem him and the true victums are is his family and freinds...

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Quackaddict9

It also stated that Wood was with Foiles when they were shooting over limits at his duck club in Illinois. And that is what I meant by getting so much pressure from the feds and CO's, people emailing them what happened. But yes Foiles should have just thought before typing.

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Muthagoose

Quack your right..Theres been so much with this its hard to keep up...All bad to..

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Muthagoose

Read this today on the fuge..

That he pleaded not guilty and As he left the courtroom, he was served with a summons to appear in court in Edmonton, Alberta, on April 5, the same day his trial is scheduled to start in Springfield. Details of the summons were not immediately available..

Now he is a multi national TOOL......

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perch_destroyer

Wow the plot thicken. Sad to hear about Travis. Foiles was one of my favorite to watch next Zink, disappointed is an understatement. Last week I was google'n Foiles, and came across a guided hunt with some outfitter in Brighton, CO schedule for the 24th and 25th of this month. I was thinking, what an interesting hunt that could be. Plenty to talk about that's forsure. This will definately be a court case to follow. Wondering if he's gonna be made an example out of, should, he made who knows how much money and gave us fowlers a bad rep.

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Muthagoose

Well that "version" is a heck of a lot Smoother than the first posted.

Heres uptake from todays court.Nows he even more popular with something in Canada to look forward to...

“Fallin’ Skies” duck hunter Jeffrey Foiles entered a not guilty plea Thursday to a 23-count indictment accusing him of violating federal wildlife laws.

Moments later, Foiles learned he would be facing charges in Canada, too.

Foiles, best known for his series of "Fallin' Skies" hunting videos, also is a waterfowl hunter, guide, call-maker and operator of Foiles Migrators Inc., a retail business near Pittsfield. He also is one of two owners of the Fallin’ Skies Strait Meat Duck Club in Pike County.

He appeared before U.S. Magistrate Judge Byron Cudmore in Springfield Thursday to answer charges he regularly killed ducks and geese in excess of legal limits as part of his guiding and video production businesses.

As he left the courtroom, Foiles was served with a summons to appear in court in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada on April 5, the same day his trial is scheduled to start here.

Details of the charges brought by Environment Canada were not immediately available.

In the United States, Foiles is charged with conspiracy to violate federal laws against transporting or selling wildlife taken illegally, killing ducks and geese in excess of legal limits and keeping false records.

Since migratory birds travel across political boundaries, they are governed by the International Migratory Bird Treaty Act.

It is against federal law to kill or possess migratory birds without a permit or without observing regulations governing hunting seasons and bag limits.

The indictment says Foiles routinely allowed customers to kill more birds than allowed and falsified records.

Some hunts where limits were exceeded were included in hunting videos, the indictment says.

According to the indictment, “the main purpose of the conspiracy was to enrich Foiles through the collection of guiding fees, tips and proceeds from video sales and sponsorship agreements.”

On Oct. 9, 2004, the indictment alleges Foiles guided a goose hunt in Canada during which participants killed about 20 Canada geese over the sum of the hunters’ individual daily bag limits.

“When the cameraman became upset at the number of geese being killed and shut off the camera, Foiles order him to continue filming,” the indictment says.

As part of Foiles’ bond agreement, he agreed to give up firearms for personal use kept at his home, including those owned by family members living with him.

As a holder of a federal firearms license, he can still display and sell firearms at his business if they are already are in stock. However, he won’t be allowed to buy or trade for any additional firearms while legal proceedings are ongoing.

As part of his guiding business, he also cannot possess a firearm in the field.

Foiles’ attorney asked that Foiles be allowed to continue to use firearms while guiding, especially to help clients with their guns.

Cudmore denied the request.

“He should be able to modify his business,” Cudmore said, repeating that he is making an exception for Foiles’ retail business and allowing him to keep his “recreational archery equipment.”

“I am moving substantially below my usual restrictions,” he said. “It is a large deviation from what I usually put into place.”

Chris McCloud, spokesman for the Illinois Department of Natural Resources, said no action will be taken against Foiles’ Illinois hunting privileges unless he is convicted.

“Only then do we assess what points are to be entered into the database,” McCloud said.

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perch_destroyer

Wow, sounds like he's on hold for quite awhile. You know what he's got for family? I've seen his son in the Fallin Skies 10 video, wife, kids? Talk about some stress on the family. He made his bed, time to lay in it.

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perch_destroyer

Pretty good memorial video on the link.

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walleye vision

Wow, sounds like he's on hold for quite awhile. You know what he's got for family? I've seen his son in the Fallin Skies 10 video, wife, kids? Talk about some stress on the family. He made his bed, time to lay in it.

I met his son out in South Dakota a few falls ago. We were playing pool at the bar and he came over and asked us how our hunt was that day. Before I could finish he tells me he is Jeff Foiles's son, and how great their hunts have been. He was pretty nice, but very proud of himself and his dad.

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Muthagoose

Hopefuly Cody retained more personable law abiding genetics from his mom and be a better sportsman.

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creepworm

This is just plain sad. It is awful what Foiles and his crew did but by no means should it have it cost a human life.

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Muthagoose

How do you figure it cost a human life..

However tragic it was a decision by someone who was only facing a fine,loss of rights and sponsorship....

I feel bad for those who must continue life without him..

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perch_destroyer

What a crappy deal. One thing I like about this site, for the most part, we can have a mature conversation on current events. Google seach some of this stuff and read what other forum sites are saying. It's terrible, threads are getting locked up because of content. Real immature stuff pertaining to this whole Foiles mess and Wood's death. Kinda sad to see some of the stuff being typed.

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Muthagoose

Ya know Creepworm.I miss took what you wrote. I Appologize..

I see now we agree'n..

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Muthagoose

The "locking up"

Was a direct response to the liability due the so stated "Internet bullying" and threat of stopping adds by foiles.

Out of respect to the family I can see not dragging things to far BUT your going to get responses to Foiles reply.

From what I saw Foiles off the fuge,FA no longer has him on their site< good thing because I like thier gear and I do frequent the fuge.

There are posts from one end to the other of the spectrum from "its only a couple ducks" to "what gives who do they think they are". Its understandable and easy to caught up in the heat of it all.

Its the seperation of law abiding sportsmen from those who feel entitled or above.

Thats where people need to either show support in buying or not buying.

Personally I wont own anything with the TOOLS signature on it.

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perch_destroyer

At the end of last season, I was thinking of buying a new call and was looking at a Foiles. But, after all this, I'm prob gonna end up buying a Zink or D Commander. I see he's got a new video coming out in the spring Foiles and the Migrators. Not buying.

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fishkid

it befuddles me how much you guys really care about this bone head

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Black Bear

I looked at the person whom passed away (Woods) website/hunting organization he apparently was affliated with. They refered to themselves on their logos, trailer, shirts etc as "Professional Killers". I admit I'm old school but I personally find this brain-dead. Is this what waterfowling has become?

PS As I said before, I tried but could never dumb myself down enough to put a Jeff Folies call around my neck. His product mught be good but I find him offensive regrdless of his recent legal issues.

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duckster

Black bear I think you hit the nail on the head.I too am old school..well at least old. I have noticed the same thing over the past few years. To a large extent waterfowling has become about killing and numbers killed. Not sure why.

If your emphasis is killing and putting down numbers, it is bound to get you into trouble sooner or later.

Duckster

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EJ_Mac

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They refered to themselves on their logos, trailer, shirts etc as "Professional Killers". I admit I'm old school but I personally find this brain-dead. Is this what waterfowling has become?

I agree. Unfortunately, I think this is what much of hunting - in general - has become. I can't go a day without seeing someone with a huge antler sticker on his truck that says "buck slayer" or "size matters" or something equally stupid.

I don't think it's so much "old" school versus "new" school, but of ethical versus unethical; of hunting for the whole experience of it versus hunting just for something worth bragging about.

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