Jump to content
  • GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

Dog looks at gun, not at what its pointing to...


YoMan

Recommended Posts

I am having a problem getting my 2 year old choc lab to look at what the gun is pointing at, and not the gun. She goes into alert mode as soon as i lift the gun, and will go jump the blind after the shot, before she sees the bird (will also jump even if i didn't connect)...

I notice she has a lot of energy and thats good, but i wished she would observe things more. For instance, we were looking straight into the wheat field, and I took 2 of my best shots ever. 15 yard straight ahead and clear as ever, but instead, the dog starts searching behind the blind...

Nose is great, and stays close on pheasant chases, but im starting we will be hurting come marsh and water time..

Can this be taught? Thanks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

One thing I have heard that retriever trainers do to prepare dogs for sitting in blinds or on a stand in flooded hardwoods is the following. If you have a pond you can access for training you can get a pigeon launcher and place it in a boat with a pigeon in the launcher. Let the dog small and see you put the pigeon in the launcher. Tie the boat to a rope and push it out in the pond. Sit the dog and release the pigeon. The pigeon will be a little disoriented and will circle the area above the boat. You can shoot the bird and let the dog retrieve it. After several times this should get them focused on looking into the sky and not at you. I'm not sure if you have all this equipment or access to a large pond to train. This all seems logical but I have never tried it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That sounds like a good idea. I was reading some blind retrieve articles, and realize I have some work to do.

Its mainly my fault for the lack of training. Too much stuff going on and my drive to duck hunt is not as high as it was previous years.

Will work her on the roosters hard this year!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

had the same problem with my first dog 15 yrs ago...actually it was my problem. Dog was great pheasant hunting but a pain in the rear duck hunting. Couldn't sit still jumped out of the boat every shot. You need to work with the dog on patience, teach the dog that she should retrieve when you want her to. That could mean throwing dummies and not sending the dog for them. Pick them up yourself. I wouldn't be concerned she'll lose her drive or get confused on what her job is, she has the drive now you need to work on her weaknesses.

There is a book by Vic Barlow I have called British Training for American Retrievers. The philosophy there is patience and obedience first and after mastery of that retrieving (no hunting the first year obedience only). In that book is a story similar to yours, that owner solved it by not letting the dog retrieve for about a year. Probably hard to do!!!

I think your on the right track with you mentioning the blind retrieve thing. I'd start with making the dog stay til you send it, probably need a check cord/leash in the duck blind in the mean time. It sucks when your pal is a hassle in the duck blind, frustration sets in and it becomes less fun than it should be. If you work on your dogs weaknesses one day it will start to "click" and you'll both have more fun, duck hunting can be a lot of boredom with flurries on activity dog needs to learn that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

leechlake, you really nailed it.

I took her in for gun training last fall and expected her to come back a full blown hunting dog. That was really naive on my part. Not that she isn't, just that I need to work with her. All you listed will sure help out.

It definitely sucks because she is more excited to be out there with me, but then the frustration kicks in and she'll know, droopy eyes and what not.

Going to hit the books hard and then the field. Thanks for the input!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The book i'm reading now for my pup states that retrieving is the heart of the training. You get the dog to have the desire to retrieve. After that you teach control, which the dog will learn to do if he/she wants to continue hunting. You should probably teach control on land first with retrieves using the dogs name to release them. It is also recommended to use a 2 person team to teach retrieving so that the dog is looking down range for the bird. This is accomplished with you the handler with the dog and a buddy down range with a dummy and gun or blank gun. You control/steady the dog, he watches hears the gun shot, then sees the dummy fly and you release the dog after the dummy on your command. This can be enforced with check cord or Ecoller. it will get your pooch looking down range and take his mind off of the gun. He should not be assocating the gun itself with birds but rather looking for the retrieve.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Hookmaster
      Kudos for doing this. I'm sure a lot of fishermen would not have.
    • MikeG3Boat
      I know it has been raining all week but anyone have any walleye reports?  Heading up for the holiday weekend and want to do some fishing.
    • MikeG3Boat
      Partyonpine, Would you be willing to share in what areas you were getting some nice Bluegills?  I am on the east end on big bay and would like to find some good panfish.
    • partyonpine
      Opener and the week after were good.  Not the numbers we normally get but better quality in the East End.  Not surprised on the weights for the Auto City a.  Usually for us we only catch a few slot fish but we averaged 3 a day for 10 days.  2 overs, biggest 27 inches.     Our best luck was 12-16 feet for quality.  When we went deeper we caught more but smaller.  Bass were really starting to heat up.  For me little earlier than normal.  Found some nice Bluegills the day we went after some panfish.  Dock fishing was as many as we wanted per usual.
    • Shulsebus
      We will be up on June 8th for the week. It will be our 13th year in a row staying on the lake.  I hope the walleye are hitting the bobbers by the time that we get there. 
    • SkunkedAgain
      Those are some fine specimens. Great job
    • gimruis
      I'm quite shocked to hear that a walleye tournament is still doing a live weigh in.  Virtually every event these days around here is doing a catch, photo, and release format.   Regardless, nice work.  Congrats.
    • LakeofthewoodsMN
      On the south end...   A great week of fishing with walleyes and saugers caught in good numbers.   The go-to presentation, again, was a jig and frozen emerald shiner.  Emerald shiners are a staple in LOW and walleyes love them.  Other minnows worked also, but emerald shiners are a favorite of anglers for good reason.   The Lighthouse Gap area, Morris Point Gap and just in front of Pine Island held nice fish in 17 - 21' of water.  Various schools of walleyes and saugers across the south shore.     A quarter ounce jig in gold, glow white, pink, orange, chartreuse, or a combo of these colors tipped with a minnow worked well again.   Some big pike and jumbo perch being caught by walleye anglers. On the Rainy River...  Some nice walleyes were caught on the river this weekend, although most anglers normally head to the lake.  12 - 15' of water is holding some nice fish.   Sturgeon fishing on the Rainy River is closed until the keep season starts up again July 1st. Up at the NW Angle...  Some nice walleyes being caught along with a mixed bag.  12 - 25 feet of water.  Points, neck down areas and bays with warming water were holding good fish this week.    The go-to presentation was a jig and minnow as on the south shore.  A mixed bag as is common around the Angle.  
    • leech~~
      Nice work!   Here's two words you hardly ever hear anyone say anymore.  "grateful and humbled"   
    • Brianf.
      RLG, thanks for the shout-out!     Jeff and I are still trying to wrap our heads around what happened this past weekend.  We are humbled and full of gratitude  for having won 'The Classic' for a second time.     We practiced through all the rain on Thurs and the wind on Friday and found six different spots holding big fish.  Fishing was good on both days with several 'overs' in our catch...but would it hold up for another day?   We didn't know.     On tourney day, we made a long run to our first spot where I lucked out on a 26.5"er on my second cast.  Jeff followed up with a thick 27" er a few minutes later, which turned out to be the big fish for the event at 7.26lbs.  We finished out our limit and weighed-in at 10:30 am for the welfare of the fish in our livewell.    There were some big weights in this event which would have won in most other years, but - for whatever reason - this was our day.  Everything just went our way.  Again, we are just super grateful and humbled by this success.  We also want to congratulate all the other anglers who did well and give a big 'thank you' to the tournament organizers who put on such a great event!  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.