Stick em With a Fork!!

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

And now, the end is near, and so I face, the final curtain.

My friends, I'll say it clear, I'll state my case, of which I'm certain........

LOL

Get your forks here, going fast!

[UdeLakeTom]

For whom does the bell toll??? The Kitties, the Chi-sox, or the Twins??? I'm thinking ala 2004 and the Kitties will crumble under the race. Next to fall????

[genegodawa]

Cubs are crumbling, not as badly as the BoSox yet, but not good - still got hope though.

Dan Fogelberg:

"and I feel myself starting to crumble-your conscientious awakes and you see your mistakes and you wish someone would buy your confessions-the days miss their mark and the night gets so dark-some kinda message comes through to you, some kinda message shoots through"

"And it says to you-love whem you can but cry when you have to-Be who you must that's a Part of the Plan-await your arrival with simple survival-someday we'll all understand, someday we'll all understand"

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Geno,

Do you want me to hang onto one of those forks I am sending up to Twinkie Town for you? No problema if you want one, the shipping will be less than having to send it all the way to Twinkie Town. They have about a dozen of their fans who have already jumped off the bandwagon, are you off the Cubbie Caravan or are you just out on the ledge? Three games with the double A Bucs should get you down off the ledge! LOL

[blue_healer_guy]

Its more than a dozen

[genegodawa]

Ain't off no bandwagon yet...I'm still pulling for the Twins......and the Cubbies.

[Jim Panfish Uran]

the shipping will be less than having to send it all the way to Twinkie Town.

The sox need to start penny pinching after blowing all that money on a couple of grunts!

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Leech,

Please compare the stats of our two "grunts", Mr. Peavy and Mr. Rios to any two of the Twins recent acquisitions. Wasn't my money they were spending so why should I care if we don't pinch pennies. Again, I guess you have to take pride in something so you are proud of the fact that the Twinks are cheapskates and that they do marginally well. Run with that if you must but I got to say I like our chances better now with Rios and Peavy wearing the Black and Silver than I did before.

[genegodawa]

Two down, one to go Windy

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Carl Pavano 33 years old All Star 2004

CAREER 76 wins 75 losses 4.42 ERA

Jake Peavy 28 years old All Star 2005 2007 Cy Young 2007 1st in Strike outs 2005 2007 1st in Wins 2007 1st in ERA 2004 2007

CAREER 92 wins 68 losses 3.29 ERA

WHICH WOULD YOU SAY IS BETTER? I guess you could call Peavy a "grunt"!

Orlando Cabrera 34 years old Gold Glove 2001 2007

CAREER Games 1685 AB 6429 Runs 849 Hits 1764 HR 110 RBI KO 609 Stolen Bases 195 Avg. 274 Slugging .398 On Base .322

Alex Rios 28 years old All Star 2007

CAREER Games 811 AB 3081 Runs 451 Hits 877 HR 81 RBI 396 KO 571 Stolen Bases 112 Avg .285 Slugging .451 On Base .335

Seems to me we got the better end of both those deals, younger players with more awards and accomplishments, but you did get older cheaper players. I will put my "grunts" up against your "blue plate specials" any day and twice on Sunday! Like I said, it ain't my money they are spending!

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Hey Geno,

I hear St. Marys of the Blind has just started a baseball team, do you think the Cubbies could work them into their schedule the rest of the year, or maybe the Lansing Lug Nuts could put the Cubbies on for a three game stint. Come out come out wherever you are! Oh Cubbies, come out and Play-ay. Got to beat more than the double A Buccos to convince me Geno. I will keep one of those forks on hand for you once the Cubs decide to play a major league team! LOL

[zamboni]

Peavys on the DL, that deal still doesn't make much sense to me. Like buying a Ferrari without an engine in it.

You can look at it, and you've spent alot of money on it, but it isn't going anywhere for awhile

[SledNeck]

Peavy is gonna get rocked in the AL

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Zamboni,

Haven't you ever restored a fine vintage automobile? Remember the Ferrari in Ferris Buehler's day off? I would have taken that car after Cameron's dad restored it. Just think about Kenny Williams buffing up Peavy with a diaper till he shines! LOL

Two more rehab sessions in the minors and I look for him to be in the starting rotation by Sept 1st. Just in time for the playoff push, by then Alex Rios should have his stroke back and look out for the Pale Hose!

As for Peavy getting rocked in the AL, only time will tell. Bye the bye, where did Carl Pavano spend his first 8 years of his 13 year career? He seemed to adjust just fine.

[zepman]

Won't matter much for us Twins fans Windy...by the time Peavy is relevant, the Twins will be 10+ games out of it.

[SledNeck]

Maybe if the Twins turn it around, some of us will have to go troll Illinois forums...

[genegodawa]

Please don't leave us Sled...we need you here to help us combat the ole W-bag

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

OK,

Zepman, one fork on its way! Anybody else need a fork?

Windy

[fishyguy]

Thanks Windy, but I got a fork. It would be appreciated if you could send up one of those handy tools for picking up doggy doo-doo to properly dispose of our starting pitchers before the smell gets any worse.

[Jim Panfish Uran]

We still have plenty of season left, so just keep those forks in chicago for September. You most likely will need them for the Bears season too, so don't go getting to generous with those forks just yet

[SledNeck]

I was planning on watching the Sox in the playoffs last year, but I couldnt find the remote fast enough and by the time I did the series was over

[Jim Panfish Uran]

Carl Pavano 33 years old All Star 2004

CAREER 76 wins 75 losses 4.42 ERA

Jake Peavy 28 years old All Star 2005 2007 Cy Young 2007 1st in Strike outs 2005 2007 1st in Wins 2007 1st in ERA 2004 2007

CAREER 92 wins 68 losses 3.29 ERA

WHICH WOULD YOU SAY IS BETTER? I guess you could call Peavy a "grunt"!

Orlando Cabrera 34 years old Gold Glove 2001 2007

CAREER Games 1685 AB 6429 Runs 849 Hits 1764 HR 110 RBI KO 609 Stolen Bases 195 Avg. 274 Slugging .398 On Base .322

Alex Rios 28 years old All Star 2007

CAREER Games 811 AB 3081 Runs 451 Hits 877 HR 81 RBI 396 KO 571 Stolen Bases 112 Avg .285 Slugging .451 On Base .335

Seems to me we got the better end of both those deals, younger players with more awards and accomplishments, but you did get older cheaper players. I will put my "grunts" up against your "blue plate specials" any day and twice on Sunday! Like I said, it ain't my money they are spending!

On December 12, 2007, Peavy signed a 4 year extension, worth $52 million with the Padres. At the time the contract was the largest in Padres history. The contract includes a $22 million option for 2013. Peavy was 6-6 with 3.96 ERA before his injury.... not too stellar.

Alex Rios has agreed to a six-year contract extension with the Blue Jays through 2014 for $64 million. It also has an option for 2015 that would make the deal $77.5 million. The 28-year-old signed a seven-year contract with the Blue Jays in April 2008 that guarantees him $69,835,000. He is due $5.9 million in 2009, $9.7 million in 2010, $12 million each in 2011 and 2012 and $12.5 million apiece in 2013 and 2014...Pretty hefty for a career .280 hitter.

SPEND ON FOR MEDIOCRITY CHICAGO!!! Why not do it on a budget like the Twins!!

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Fishy,

Nice to see a realist among the Twinkie eaters! LOL

Leech,

If what the Twinks did worked then I could see it but the only thing I see is a very sound fundamental team that is almost always in the race but never gets over the final hump. We did it in 05 so we have that to look back on and with the spending issue why do you think the Yankees and Red Sox are the most watched teams. Big players, big money. Again, if it were my money Kenny Williams was spending then I would have to think about it but I can't see why you take pride in watching Carl Pohlad rake in millions and put out crumbs for you Twink fans. There is no pride in a budget minded team, does not work for the Pirates, should not work for the Twinks but you seem to enjoy that. With all your poor pitching this year, what place do you think you would be in if you had YO Han back? My guess would be first, dude!

As for the Bears, we have all the Cutler-y we need! LOL

[zepman]

Cuttler's a PUNK!!

[Jim Panfish Uran]

Good points Windy, but I still can't believe how mediocre the White Sox are with that kind of payroll. It shouldn't be anything to be "proud" of.

With our payroll, we still are in contention every year, like you said. But we can't expect to do it every year, it only comes together every 10 years or so it seems. That's the reality of being a "small market" team.

[SledNeck]

wow, cutler sure impressed me last game

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

You are right Sled, we should gain a pretty good idea of how a star starting quarterback is going to perform in 16 real season games and the playoffs from a few meaningless quarters in the first preseason game of the year. You are right! Do you think that they might give us Kyle Orton back if we ship Cuttler back? And Sled, what ratio of minutes in the playoffs did the Sox have vs the Twinks last year. Where did the Twinks play in their first round of the playoffs, Hazeltine, Torrey Pines????

Sled, your wisdom baffles me sometimes!

Leech,

I am not proud of the Sox overspending, I just don't care that they do since it is not my money. It does baffle me how Twins fans continue to support Pohlad in his cheapness and seem to take pride in it when a few extra dollars spent here and there could obviously put them over the top in a very competitive division that is very win able by the team looking for that right move. Tigers seem to step up and it is obvious the Sox step up but it seems the Twinks just won't pull that last trigger sometimes. I know they are a small market team but with the revenue sharing and the tv deals they are pretty close to most other teams when the paydays come, they just go cheap on getting the pieces of the puzzle needed to put them over the top.

[UdeLakeTom]

Windy...it's that Scandahoovian/German background most of us have. We squeeze them pennies.

[rundrave]

WINDY...FYI Carl Pohlad died....

Also how can you come here and stir the pot, when you fail to mention this:

Williams says he's 'not happy' with team

things aren't so great for the South Siders either?

[Jim Panfish Uran]

Windy is a windbag of knowledge!! He's in denial he's got a mediocre team with a bloated payroll. I'd like to see the #'s that say we have the same revenue as the Sox. That's ridiculous.