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wazuplittlefishes

Have any of you ice fishermen had problems with a noodle rod while fishing LOW? i have had some trouble catching the fish becuase setting the hook on them is the hard part but once you get one on its a blast. Tell me your opion about them

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curt quesnell

Wazup.<P>The hookset problem has sidelined all of my<BR>real "soft" ice rods.<P>I like my ice rods short (24 inches tops)<BR>and stiff. I snap about one a year setting<BR>the hook with Fireline.<P>My brother makes fishing rods including<BR>ice rods from St Croix blanks, they are <BR>real nice to fish with. He likes them a<BR>little longer than I do.<P>Good question, what does everyone use for<BR>ice fishing rods?<P>Berkley makes and awesome ice rod and you <BR>can usually by the combo with a DECENT<BR>reel for about 25 bucks. I guess there<BR>are some other good rod-reel combos out <BR>there too, but I have a couple of the <BR>Lightning Rods and I really like em.<P>------------------<BR>Curt Quesnell<BR>NorthCountry Outdoors Radio<p>[This message has been edited by curt quesnell (edited 10-12-2004).]

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Matt Johnson

Yep, I stay away from noodle rods when ice fishing on LOW. I try not to go lighter than a medium/light. I want to make sure I can properly play a big fish and a noodle rod doesn't keep the right amount of tension on the line.<P><P>------------------<BR>Good Fishin,<BR>Matt Johnson<BR>Pro Staff Coordinator<BR><B><A HREF="http://fishingminnesota.com/sponsorlinks.html" TARGET=_blank>FishingMN Sponsors</A><BR></B><P><BR><B><A HREF="http://www.[YouNeedAuthorization].com" TARGET=_blank>Matt Johnson Outdoors</A></B><BR><B>mattjohnson@[YouNeedAuthorization].com</B><BR><B>Guided Ice Fishing and More...</B>

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iffwalleyes

I have had good luck with Thorne's dead stick which is pretty much like a noddle rod. You have to set it hard but the tip is very limber and then it just gets fat by the handle so it is very ridged there and that is where you fight from. I use this for my set line. Then I use medium thorne's sweetheart walleye rods for my jigging they are perfect.<P>------------------<BR>Grip it and Rip it<P>IFFWalleyes<BR>I Fish For Walleyes<BR>iffwalleyes at yahoo.com

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Fisher J

I like to use the noodle rods when ice fishing. I have a tendency to hit a fish too hard and that type of ice rod helps me with this problem. Last year, I caught a 10lb eel pout on one of those rods. It was a blast, and a friend caught an 8lb walleye also on a noodle rod. I have never had any problems with this type of rod what so ever.

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Matt Johnson

When I think of a noodle rod I'm thinking about one that I can almost tie on a knot (well maybe not that much smile.gif). Deadsticking rods and noodle rods are two different rods in my book. Deadsticking rods have a pretty solid backbone but a fast tip. Noodle rods can load/bend quite a bit before any sort of backbone is applied, or might not have any real backbone at all. HT Enterprises makes a couple different noodle rods. I'll use noodle rods in deadsticking situations from time to time for panfish. The tip of these rods are so flimsy that a light biting crappie or gill can pull it down without feeling much resistance, and that will allow the angler to see the bite and set the hook. I don't jig with noodle rods, but I'll jig occasionally with deadsticking rods in between the long pauses.<P>------------------<BR>Good Fishin,<BR>Matt Johnson<BR>Pro Staff Coordinator<BR><B><A HREF="http://fishingminnesota.com/sponsorlinks.html" TARGET=_blank>FishingMN Sponsors</A><BR></B><P><BR><B><A HREF="http://www.[YouNeedAuthorization].com" TARGET=_blank>Matt Johnson Outdoors</A></B><BR><B>mattjohnson@[YouNeedAuthorization].com</B><BR><B>Guided Ice Fishing and More...</B><p>[This message has been edited by Matt Johnson (edited 10-13-2004).]

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PikeTipper,<P>What species are you targeting? <P>For walleyes I like to use either a Thorne Bros Walleye Sweetheart or even a Professional. I also like the 28 inch Medium action rod from JR's Tackle. The Genz Rods by Berkley are also high in my book. St. Croix and Frabill have nice rods as well. There are several out there to choose from. I've caught some of my biggest walleyes through the ice on medium/light action rods, so don't feel like you have to go with a medium action rod. I try to stay away from heavier action rods. You can play most fish with a medium action rod, just make sure you have a good quality drag system and you are patient.<P>What type of rods are you using now?<P><P>------------------<BR>Good Fishin,<BR>Matt Johnson<BR>Pro Staff Coordinator<BR><B><A HREF="http://fishingminnesota.com/sponsorlinks.html" TARGET=_blank>FishingMN Sponsors</A><BR></B><P><BR><B><A HREF="http://www.[YouNeedAuthorization].com" TARGET=_blank>Matt Johnson Outdoors</A></B><BR><B>mattjohnson@[YouNeedAuthorization].com</B><BR><B>Guided Ice Fishing and More...</B>

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curt quesnell

Back when In-Fish first came on TV Al Lindner<BR>said "Set the hook...hard".<P>So unless you are nearing rediculous a good<BR>beefy hookset will be your friend more times<BR>than not. Every fish I lose half<BR>way to the surface I knew right away I didnt<BR>get the hook set good enough.<P>To each his own and it is different for <BR>other species like gills and crappies but<BR>for a Walleye with the bones they have in<BR>their mouths I like to get a good jab with<BR>a nice sharp hook.<P>Medium light is fine with a 24 inch rod for<BR>my best piece of mind. I like the shorter<BR>because of the low ceilings in the portable<BR>fish houses. I havent broken a rod on the<BR>ceiling yet, but I can see it happening.<P>Good luck everyone,<BR>Thanks Matt<P>------------------<BR>Curt Quesnell<BR>NorthCountry Outdoors Radio<p>[This message has been edited by curt quesnell (edited 10-14-2004).]

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PikeTipper

I'm guilty of it on almost all species but I was referring to walleyes in this case. Seems like I didn't have as much of a problem with it when I only fished Mono but I have since switched to Fireline for the sensitivity but with no stretch I seem to pull it right out of their mouths some times.<P>Most of my ice rods are either the lightning rods or some other cheaper rods in medium action.

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Matt Johnson

PikeTipper,<P>I like to use a lot of 6 pound mono when fishing walleyes. Might want to give that a try on one of your rods and see how it works out. 8 pound mono isn't a bad choice either. In recent years I've been deadsticking with 4 pound mono for walleyes and haven't had any problems with break offs. Medium/light action rod and 4 pound mono works pretty good for a deadstick walleye rig. Plain hook and a splitshot about 10 inches up. Emerald shiner seals the deal. <P>Only time I use Fireline or other braided lines is when jigging for pike or lakers using 10 pound test or more. Other than that I mostly stick to mono out on the ice. I guess I'll use light Fireline jigging for perch in deep water once in a while too.<P><P>------------------<BR>Good Fishin,<BR>Matt Johnson<BR>Pro Staff Coordinator<BR><B><A HREF="http://fishingminnesota.com/sponsorlinks.html" TARGET=_blank>FishingMN Sponsors</A><BR></B><P><BR><B><A HREF="http://www.[YouNeedAuthorization].com" TARGET=_blank>Matt Johnson Outdoors</A></B><BR><B>mattjohnson@[YouNeedAuthorization].com</B><BR><B>Guided Ice Fishing and More...</B>

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PikeTipper

Matt,<P>Thanks for the tips. When Deadsticking what do you do with your rod? Leave it sit on a bucket or rod holder?

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Couple of years ago I was using one of those dang ultra light ice rods and it seemed everytime I hooked a decent walleye I would loose it after just a couple of feet up. One day I lost 3 in row and almost threw the dang thing down the hole. Needless to say I only use those real light rods for crappy now.

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PikeTipper,<P>I use the Rod Strap by <A HREF="http://www.todaystackle.com/rodstrap.html" TARGET=_blank>Todays Tackle</A> quite a bit for deadsticking. Its basically a piece of heavy duty fabric that velcros around your rod and around a pole in your portable fish house. A very handy tool.<P> RSOtter.jpg <P> RSside-pail.jpg <P>I like the Rod Strap because when a fish bites it can pull your rod down without feeling much resistance. The rod tip just drops as the fish pulls. Then all you have to do is unvelcro the rod and set the hook.<P>I also set the rod over a bucket from time to time too, depending whether or not I'm inside a portable.<P>------------------<BR>Good Fishin,<BR>Matt Johnson<BR>Pro Staff Coordinator<BR><B><A HREF="http://fishingminnesota.com/sponsorlinks.html" TARGET=_blank>FishingMN Sponsors</A><BR></B><P><BR><B><A HREF="http://www.[YouNeedAuthorization].com" TARGET=_blank>Matt Johnson Outdoors</A></B><BR><B>mattjohnson@[YouNeedAuthorization].com</B><BR><B>Guided Ice Fishing and More...</B><P><p>[This message has been edited by Matt Johnson (edited 10-13-2004).]

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PikeTipper

Matt,<P>In your opinion what are some good rods on the market that have a fast tip but still have some back bone? I have a tendancy to pull up just lips from setting the hook way too hard. Any recommendations?

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iffwalleyes

Lets not forget the absolute best deadstick tool out there. The T-Bone Rockn Reel. It is great in my mind. I used that in conjuction with my Thorne Bros Dead stick it has been a great combination for me.

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