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Manziel Debate


DrJuice1980

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Meh, its all smoke right now. I think Bridgewater, and Manzeil will be gone in the top 5, Bortles might be there at 8, if he is we should take him.

There will be some great play makers available at 8, that will help this team out. I would rather they draft a playmaker, rather then dropping back and picking up a couple mediocre fill ins. Either move up for Bridgewater, or Manziel, hold tight for Bortles, or grab the best playmaker on the board. WR, CB, LB, DE, OL, DL, there will be a good player available for us.

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More good reads, he is untrustworthy as well...

BigDave I've seen Manziel lusted at 5'10" as recent as November. So either he's grown 3" in a month or one of those is wrong. Have you ever heard of a players size being exaggerated? He is closer to 5'10" then 6'1".
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Big deal...he's a full inch taller than R. Wilson and his height, or lack there of, certainly doesn't hold him back.

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Just heard a interview with B. Polian on ESPN & he was more concerned about his style of play than his size.He said that his long time OC in Indy often told him that there wasn't many old running QB's in the NFL.

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I know, I know. Just funny to call the guy who calls everybody else a kool aid drinker the same.

Who would that be?

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His official 40 time was 4.68, but who's checking facts. Since he was "6'1" " right Big Dave?[/quote

Did you happen to see what he did in the cone drill and 20 yd. shuttle...pretty much blew everybody out of the water.

They also showed a Manziel VS Koepernick side by side comparison running the 40 yd. dash...Manziel was ahead of him at 20-25 yards and Koeps long legs kicked in at the end.

I'll take quickness over flat out speed anyday....especially at QB.

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Zep I would agree that quickness is more important to evade pressure than overall speed.

LMT clowney did the 40 in 4.47 what took johnny so long?

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Still dont want him or any other QB with our top pick. His style isnt the way of the future. He'll get paid by somebody, I just hope it aint the Vikes.

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When little Johnny tries to scramble out of the pocket and is met by the bigger, faster, stronger NFL DE's it sure is relevant.

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How did you interpret an excuse there?

I get it LMIT, you want him here to see a train wreck. Just admit it.

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I don't really think this is debatable. This punk has an "I'm the best no matter what" head on his shoulders. Its going to fuel every guy going against him. I personally hope he gets rocked and a good wake up call, just cause he's that much of an !diot. I think a lot of the nfl analyst think the same, but don't want to come out and actually "say it". That's just my opinion.

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And that is relevant how? Oh that's right, it isn't.

You are right LMT, all of the combine stats are irrelavent and we are all sheep for posting any of the data. At least I posted ACTUAL OFFICIAL data and not heresy on his times.

BTW, there were a few other QBs that were faster than Johnny including Connor Shaw and Logan Thomas. What say you now? Is it relevant or not?

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Any other excuses you guys want to use? Wrong color eyes? Ears too big/small? Likes Coke instead of Pepsi?

Any other pathetic reasons you can come up with?

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At least I posted ACTUAL OFFICIAL data and not heresy on his times.

Well thank goodness you are here to do that. Heaven forbid we are off by 12/100th's of a second or 1.25" of height.

ROFLMAO!

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Depending who you ask they might think being 1.25" shorter may be a big deal.

Its funny how height and speed aren't a big deal. Guess it depends which way the wind is blowing so you can change your mind.

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Thanks to your always relevant information, I have now thrown in the towel on Johnny Football because he ran an official time of only 4.68 in the 40 instead of an unofficial time of 4.56.

And not only that, but because Clowney paced pretty much everybody, no QB's will be drafted. Ever.

Bahahahahahaha!

Good grief.

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You forgot a gif or some other animated retort. Those are always relevant. Especially the one showing johnny with a beer. SMH

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Listening to Zimmer talk at the combine I would say we'll probably go defense with our 1st and 2nd pick. Look for the QB to be taken with one of our 3rds.

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You are right LMT, all of the combine stats are irrelavent and we are all sheep for posting any of the data. At least I posted ACTUAL OFFICIAL data and not heresy on his times.

BTW, there were a few other QBs that were faster than Johnny including Connor Shaw and Logan Thomas. What say you now? Is it relevant or not?

Is this relevant?

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=8708

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