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DrJuice1980

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Yeah Zep, is he in character tonight? Dude every time he's in front if the camera he's in character. I like Gruden a lot and he knows his football but I'm not as gullible as you and buy into everything he says.

Manziel is going to have to take a finger or two away from the money rub if he slides any further. Watch Philly take him.

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Looks like most analysts and most GM's are on the same page on JF.

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I bet LMIT and BigDave are just scouring these pages looking for something to hang their hats on. Ha

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I've ran out of things to hang my hat on...I'm looking for more hats.

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Doomed, and you all know this. The place where talent dies, armpit of America.

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I remember another QB who donned the #2 in Cleveland that brought hope, his name was Tim Couch.

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Cleveland clearly can draft a qb in the first round at #22. They picked Quinn and Wheeden there. Muahahahaha

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Am I the only one that liked seeing the little snot nosed punk squirm every time his name didn't get called?

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Eric I was having great joy in that as well. Each time a pick passed and he was sitting there the "show me the money" became less and less".

I loved how he kept checking his phone maybe to make sure he didn't has a missed call. Lol

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Yep, loved watching him squirm............and honestly I kept squirming thinking the Vikings would pull the trigger on a trade.

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Yep, loved watching him squirm............and honestly I kept squirming thinking the Vikings would pull the trigger on a trade.
you and me both!
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Big Dave is awfully quiet...

That's because Big Dave has a 2 jobs and a life.

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Details on the deal that almost made Johnny Manziel a Viking

According to Monday Morning Quarterback’s Peter King, the Vikings were one of six teams that tried to swing a deal with the Philadelphia Eagles for the No. 22 pick in the first round – the pick that would eventually belong to the Cleveland Browns, which used it to take Manziel.

Had the Vikings won that race, GM Rick Spielman would have informed NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell that Manziel was their pick.

Instead, the Browns won the race and picked Manziel. King says Cleveland didn’t have a deal done with the Eagles until there were 30 seconds left on the clock.

Jay Glazer reported that Minnesota thought it had a deal with Philadelphia before the Browns upped the ante at the last second.

Minnesota, King says, finished third in the race to trade for the 22nd pick, just behind an unknown team. Minnesota would have had to give up the No. 40 pick in this year’s draft and a 2015 first-round pick.

King writes that the Vikings weren’t convinced any quarterback in the draft is going to be a star, but head coach Mike Zimmer liked Manziel. He got to know him a little better during a private meeting following Manziel’s pro day last month.

At one point, Zimmer said to Manziel, “I’ve been waiting all my life for this chance. Can I trust you?’’ Manziel said yes. Manziel told Zimmer they would win Super Bowls together. Zimmer loved it. Zimmer wasn’t sure whether he trusted him totally, but he loved it, and he loved the confidence.

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Who cares? It didn't happen so its water under the bridge. Its speculation and shouldn't be treated as more than that.

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I think we all knew this on Thursday night...maybe not the specifics but that they wanted JF in the 22 spot.

Personally, I would have been ok giving up our 1st next year to get him...I think he's gonna be that good.

I'm ok with the Bridgewater pick at 32, too. I'll wait and give him the opportunity to either make it or not. I think he can be really good too.

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Doesn't read as very speculative at all.

That's because it isn't. They wanted him and they blew it.

I'm with you zep they should have made it happen.

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Its speculative because it isn't directly from the mouth of the people in the room. Again I ask why does it matter? IF they wanted him would they make a trade with the team most likely competing for the same guy at 8? Would they then pass him up at 9 if he was truly their guy?

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They wanted him and they blew it.

They blew it alright...not once, not twice, but THREE times.

That's what they deserve for trying to get cute.

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If they were ok giving up a first round pick next year to get him, why didn't they just use their first round pick this year on him?

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I don't think they were ok with that deal which is why Cleveland swept in and got the pick. Zimmer insisted on getting a defensive player with the first pick and were hoping Manziel would slide and they could trade up. In the end we get the consolation prize..Tinyhands Bridgeflopper.

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I have said it before and I will say it again. When the QB touches the ball on every play he is the most important guy on the field. He is the one calling audibles etc. They blew it by not taking him right away. Who cares about some donkey on D. We have had several defensive studs in franchise history. NONE of them ever brought us a championship.

QB is by far and away the most important position and if JM was their guy they should have taken him. They blew the first round of the draft very badly. Settling on your third choice at QB is not a success, especially since we are gonna have to watch this puke for the next 3-4 years before they give up and try again. Spielman said it himself on Rosen's sports Sunday.

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QB is by far and away the most important position and if JM was their guy they should have taken him.

If they wanted him so bad they wouldn't of traded with Cleveland and let them have their 2nd shot at him, and they would of took him at #9 after Cleveland passed on him again. He must not of been as highly rated on teams draft board as he is on this site.

The best part about it all is the JM crew saying how we blew it so bad and none of these QB's have even taken an NFL snap.

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I am not a fan of JM, but I would have much rather had him on the team than Teddy Toiletwater.

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It's hilarious how many of my buddies the week before the draft wanted nothing to do with Teddy B, said thryd quit be a MN fan, now they act like he's the second coming of Tom Brady! Stole him at 32 they say.,, I just chuckle.,.. With the 32nd pick in the 2014 draft, the Vikings pick (any qb still on the board) and the rubes instantly crown him as an awesome pick. Norv will mold him... Only Time will tell if Teddy Bricklofter will pan out.

Good Luck!

Ken

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The plot thickens!!! Maybe the Vikings and Browns should just trade QB's since they both wanted the other one.

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Did a year of dysfunction cost the Cleveland Browns their preferred quarterback in the 2014 NFL Draft?

Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, the 32nd overall pick last Thursday, was on the board when the Browns traded the 26th overall pick and a third-rounder to the Philadelphia Eagles for the 22nd pick, with the intent of drafting a quarterback to compete with current starter Brian Hoyer.

According to reports -- vehemently denied Monday by coach Mike Pettine -- the Browns were primed to select Bridgewater but at the last minute switched their choice to Texas A&M sophomore Johnny Manziel.

Bridgewater said Tuesday on the "Dan Patrick Show" that he informed agent Kennard McGuire that he did not want to play in Cleveland.

"I actually told my agent that's not the place where I wanted to be," Bridgewater told Patrick Tuesday in the midst of several rounds of media interviews.

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It's hilarious how many of my buddies the week before the draft wanted nothing to do with Teddy B, said thryd quit be a MN fan, now they act like he's the second coming of Tom Brady! Stole him at 32 they say.,, I just chuckle.,.. With the 32nd pick in the 2014 draft, the Vikings pick (any qb still on the board) and the rubes instantly crown him as an awesome pick. Norv will mold him... Only Time will tell if Teddy Bricklofter will pan out.

Good Luck!

Ken

Almost as crazy as the people who think the player that a bunch of teams passed on and slid on draft day is the next (insert your all time best rated qb here)!

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