Steve McNair Killed

[ozzie]

Wow I never knew we had such great saints on this website!!! Very Very sad news to hear that he died in this tragic way.

Have you ever had a role model that you can honestly say they never did anything wrong? Everyone has their faults and maybe Mcnair had some marital problems but in no way does he deserve to be ridiculed by people that are not aware of the full situation. Get a life and if you can't send your condolences then maybe you should keep your comments to yourself unless of course you are the perfect role model and have never made a mistake or bad decision in your life.

One thing you should teach your kids is nobody is perfect and that they should not have a role model but respect and enjoy certain aspects about an individual and try to incorporate that into their life......your kid should never have a single role model to look up to cause when that person fails or their negatives come out about them a kids world can be crushed!!!

Just remember until you have walked in a mans shoes there is no way to tell what or where he is coming from or has been through!!!!

[zepman]

The good book also says an eye for an eye and something about coveting thy neighbors wife, this guy was a married man who was doing illegal things with a girl half his age in a condo that he rented and in a car that he bought her. She was arrested a few days earlier for DUI with him in the car! Not the family man that everybody thought he was.

I did qualify my response in the very beginning with the word "if". I said if the reports pan out the way they are looking....

I can go along with Wade on this but "if" the reports are true you can count me in the catagory of "dismissed" and not "missed".

And yes I have done things wrong but I am fully accountable for each and every one of them. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time said Baretta!

Windy

What was he doing that was illegal?

[Quackaddict9]

Originally Posted By: Windy City Walleye Hunter

The good book also says an eye for an eye and something about coveting thy neighbors wife, this guy was a married man who was doing illegal things with a girl half his age in a condo that he rented and in a car that he bought her. She was arrested a few days earlier for DUI with him in the car! Not the family man that everybody thought he was.

Insert Michael Jordan and throw in the FACT that Michael Jordan was a "wife" BATTERER along with a womanizing cheater only confirms Windy's point that a lot of Athletes are POS... Michael just took it to whole nother level than most.

For the Record I don't beleive McNair was a POS but I do know MJ was/IS!

Carry On!

well said.

[ozzie]

Originally Posted By: Windy City Walleye Hunter

The good book also says an eye for an eye and something about coveting thy neighbors wife, this guy was a married man who was doing illegal things with a girl half his age in a condo that he rented and in a car that he bought her. She was arrested a few days earlier for DUI with him in the car! Not the family man that everybody thought he was.

I did qualify my response in the very beginning with the word "if". I said if the reports pan out the way they are looking....

I can go along with Wade on this but "if" the reports are true you can count me in the catagory of "dismissed" and not "missed".

And yes I have done things wrong but I am fully accountable for each and every one of them. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time said Baretta!

Windy

What was he doing that was illegal?

and if it was something illegal did it really carry the death penalty????

[KMR85]

Wow I never knew we had such great saints on this website!!! Very Very sad news to hear that he died in this tragic way.

Have you ever had a role model that you can honestly say they never did anything wrong? Everyone has their faults and maybe Mcnair had some marital problems but in no way does he deserve to be ridiculed by people that are not aware of the full situation. Get a life and if you can't send your condolences then maybe you should keep your comments to yourself unless of course you are the perfect role model and have never made a mistake or bad decision in your life.

One thing you should teach your kids is nobody is perfect and that they should not have a role model but respect and enjoy certain aspects about an individual and try to incorporate that into their life......your kid should never have a single role model to look up to cause when that person fails or their negatives come out about them a kids world can be crushed!!!

Just remember until you have walked in a mans shoes there is no way to tell what or where he is coming from or has been through!!!!

Well said ozzie.

[MNice]

Many people of different ilks die everyday, but usually, only the "celebrities" are talked about here. May ALL the departed rest in peace, for this is the only thing that we all have in common.

[zamboni]

I have to agree- just cheating on your spouse doesn't warrant being killed. If it did, there would be alot less men AND women wandering around this planet, and alot more parent-less kids. More times than not, one would be in the grave and the other would be in the pen.

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Zepman,

You ask what was he doing that was illegal. Do you mean besides cheating on his wife (which is illegal, it is called alienation of affections) with a girl half his age which involved a condo he rented for such purposes on his wife and children (while not illegal, it is pretty scummy) and partying with her as they were pulled over several days earlier and she was ticketed for being high (which is illegal) and he was too but because of his "fame" and the fact that he was not driving the car was just put in a cab home.

I am not ready to mourn the lose of such a person, there are many more deserving people who lose their lives each and every day.

And Zamboni, as for your assertion that there would be a lot more people in the grave and others in the pen, my thought would be that this is not the worst scenario. You lay down with dogs and you get fleas. You play with fire and you will eventually get burned. I may sound harsh but this world would be a much better place if it were black and white and not so much gray!

And Ozzie, you want to know what I teach my children? Personal responsibility. As you sew, so shall you reap. Each person is given a life and that life takes many turns and you are responsible for each turn you choose. The easy road is not always the best road. This world would be a much better place if people started living the golden rule. Your character is a composite of the choices you make in your life. I guarantee that he would be alive and playing with his children today if he was at home with his wife and playing with his children and not out playing with another persons "child". As a child I spoke as a child I acted as a child I reasoned as a child. As an adult it is time to put away childish things. I will not mourn an adult who chose the wrong path because the wrong path is full of dangerous and bad things.

Last you will hear from me on this subject.

[Flaco651]

Sounds like Steve did a lot of good things for a number of communities.

From ESPN

Quote:

Generous, he frequently took part in charity work for both the Titans and later the Baltimore Ravens after a 2006 trade. McNair even helped load donated food, water and clothes onto tractor-trailers that he had arranged for Hurricane Katrina victims, and paid for three football camps for children himself this year.

R.I.P. Steve McNair.

[Wade Joseph]

Its just a sad world we live in when the likes of Micheal Jackson and Steve McNair get more media attention than the brave men and women of our armed forces, police and firefighters who are killed in the line of duty.

Maybe he was a good guy, maybe he wasn't. Only two people know his true intentions, him and god. He ain't talking and I doubt the good lord is gonna make any announcements about him any time soon.

You want to put him on a pedistal, then I will ask "What did he ever do for YOU?" There are thousands of military members and hundreds of police and firefighters who are putting their A$$ on the line for you every day.

[bottomdweller]

Wade Joseph, amen, couldnt have said it better.

[Here-Kitty-Kitty]

Its just a sad world we live in when the likes of Micheal Jackson and Steve McNair get more media attention than the brave men and women of our armed forces, police and firefighters who are killed in the line of duty.

Maybe he was a good guy, maybe he wasn't. Only two people know his true intentions, him and god. He ain't talking and I doubt the good lord is gonna make any announcements about him any time soon.

You want to put him on a pedistal, then I will ask "What did he ever do for YOU?" There are thousands of military members and hundreds of police and firefighters who are putting their A$$ on the line for you every day.

I totally agree, but we know that are New president the enlightened one will never show anything like that.

[9joey1]

Huh? What does "our" new president have to do with this?

[ozzie]

This has nothing to do with our military and police and firefighters...yes they are great and they do get mourned when they die maybe not by the masses but that is because we did not grow up living vicariously thru their careers.........and I am sure there are military and police and firefighter that cheat on their wives............nobody is perfect and I am sure we have all had problems and conflicts of intrest in our lives but I don't think what he did deserved to end his life and he shouldn't be berated by people that have no clue on the real situation.......enough said!!!

[Flaco651]

Quote:

You want to put him on a pedistal, then I will ask "What did he ever do for YOU?" There are thousands of military members and hundreds of police and firefighters who are putting their A$$ on the line for you every day.

I've got family and friends that are MARINES and Soldiers over in the wars right now, and I've have always been thankful for them "putting their A$$" on the line for me daily.

This thread is about Steve McNair and my opinion is he was a good guy. If you or others feel differently, so be it.

[Sandmannd]

I agree with you Wade. I do think they deserve some news because of who they are, but not to the extreme they get it.

[Here-Kitty-Kitty]

Huh? What does "our" new president have to do with this?

WOW I didn't proof read the thing. Not a political thread just merely saying that Obama doesn't want it to look like we are doing the right thing over there. I too am a vet of this war and can only thank all the guys and girls that are still there fighting for some that don't want us there and for some that know that we need to be there.

At this point I am going to stop reading this thread as I have very strong feeling on this topic.

Steve was a great leader on the field and really truly don't care what he was off the field as I didn't know him off the field

[FISHINGURU]

murder/suicide....the hood rat was worried about bills and paying money...she also thought air mcnair had another young chick on the side...she even followed the girl home...jealousy and freakin out got mcnair shot in his sleep.....LAME

[zepman]

Yeah, it sounds like she had some real problems going on there. He should have seen signs of this awhile back and ran like he had Jared Allen on his tail...still a very sad story. Another one gone way, way too soon. R.I.P.

[LMITOUT]

affAIR McNair.....It sounds like the truth is coming out about this dirt bag and is exactly why athletes shouldn't be idolized. Well, all of them except #4 from Kiln, Mississippi!!

Everyone wants to blame the "stressed out girlfriend", but who was the one that couldn't keep his pants on in any one place for very long when he had a family at home? Not saying he deserved what he got, but he wasn't the saint everyone wants to make him out to be.

[Jim Panfish Uran]

This has nothing to do with our military and police and firefighters...yes they are great and they do get mourned when they die maybe not by the masses but that is because we did not grow up living vicariously thru their careers.........and I am sure there are military and police and firefighter that cheat on their wives............nobody is perfect and I am sure we have all had problems and conflicts of intrest in our lives but I don't think what he did deserved to end his life and he shouldn't be berated by people that have no clue on the real situation.......enough said!!!

Out of everything said in here, Ozzie you have said it best. Thank you.

[PierBridge]

Originally Posted By: ozzie

This has nothing to do with our military and police and firefighters...yes they are great and they do get mourned when they die maybe not by the masses but that is because we did not grow up living vicariously thru their careers.........and I am sure there are military and police and firefighter that cheat on their wives............nobody is perfect and I am sure we have all had problems and conflicts of intrest in our lives but I don't think what he did deserved to end his life and he shouldn't be berated by people that have no clue on the real situation.......enough said!!!

Out of everything said in here, Ozzie you have said it best. Thank you.

Agreed! and I think the people that are piling on, the usual suspects, are more frustrated by things that are going on in there own lives and it's like a venting thing to make them feel better about themselves but deep down they're still hurting inside!

That being said Steve McNair has done more good in 15 minutes of his life than most of the bashers pathetic ancestry has done in their existence!

RIP Steve Mcnair! and may your lowly shallow critics continue to be frustrated in their lives!

Signed: Michael Jordon wife batterer and cheater extraordinarie "ha-ha windbag!"

[Flaco651]

[Windy City Walleye Hunter]

Pier you pathetic Chicago basher. I can tell you that I have been married for 21 years and have never cheated on my wife. I do not own an apartment or condo on the side that I schtup twenty year old girl in, nor to I partake in illegal drugs. I have been a baseball and softball manager for my kids, I was a Cub Scout Master and a Boy Scout Master and both my sons are Eagle Scouts. I have 4 grand children that I would die for and I take them fishing as well as see their baseball and softball games. I volunteer my time to a variety of causes including my local police department.

I am truly sorry if you are a jealous bitter Minnesotan who is envious of the big city of Chicago. You don't have a sniff of me or my character sir and I use that term very loosly when describing a person like yourself who would try to compare a slime like McNair to me. Shame on you. You owe me an apology.

[Steve Foss]

Pier you pathetic Chicago basher. I can tell you that I have been married for 21 years and have never cheated on my wife. I do not own an apartment or condo on the side that I schtup twenty year old girl in, nor to I partake in illegal drugs. I have been a baseball and softball manager for my kids, I was a Cub Scout Master and a Boy Scout Master and both my sons are Eagle Scouts. I have 4 grand children that I would die for and I take them fishing as well as see their baseball and softball games. I volunteer my time to a variety of causes including my local police department.

I am truly sorry if you are a jealous bitter Minnesotan who is envious of the big city of Chicago. You don't have a sniff of me or my character sir and I use that term very loosly when describing a person like yourself who would try to compare a slime like McNair to me. Shame on you. You owe me an apology.

Wow, is all I'm going to say to that. Just. Plain. Wow.

[LOTWSvirgin]

KInda what I thought to Steve. Must be mad his pale hose lost

[ozzie]

All hail the holy one as he is still kicking a dead man!!!

[Jim Panfish Uran]

WOW is right!!! Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk!!

[Sandmannd]

I will say RIP to a good guy in the NFL. He was flawed, but we all are. He did more good than a lot do.

[glenn57]

so then lets all let him R.I.P. and shut this down! but then to whom am i?