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The 2005 DNR survey of Pokegama (just posted) labels the size structure of pike in pokie as poor noting that no fish over 30" were sampled. The report points out that the lake has all the right characteristics to grow big pike and speculates that the lack of big pike may be due to overharvest. The catch and release ethic seems to be strong with anglers but, obviously, there's no releasing a speared fish. Not being a part of the spearing community myself, is there a developing ethic amongst spearers to let the big ones swim on by?

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I've done some spearing in the past and plan on doing some in December on Pokegama. I think the DNR info. is mis-leading because once northerns get in that 8-10+ lb range on Pokeg, I think they go deep and chase smelt and that's why they don't show up in the DNR nets. I know that I've never speared a pike bigger than 8lbs. I can honestly say I wouldn't have a problem letting a fish over the 5-8lb range swim by. The only way to get bigger pike in most of our area lakes is to start keeping the smaller one's. I think in a lake that is over run with small pike, spearing could be a very effective tool to eventually increase the big pike population. I just can't see spearing a fish in the 10-18 lb range. They keep the little guy's in check, if there's enough big guys/gals in the lake. I hope other spearer's feel the same way, but I'm skeptical.

Brian

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I think your right that the larger pike go out into open deep water and chase smelt in the summer, but what about in the winter? Don't they roam the flats and shallow points?

I tend to believe the DNR info. I troll the deep pods of smelt alot and have caught hundreds of norhterns in the 6-8lb range but only rarley see a ten pounder and out of all of them (5 years of lots of trolling), the biggest pike I've seen out of the lake is 11 lbs. I'm not saying there aren't some big ones in there, I just don't think there are very many.

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    • leech~~
      Could have throw a line off the south shore since you were all the way up there.
    • easyrider25
      Hey guys thanks for the tips.  What you are saying really makes sense.  I have been working on these items this week, not expecting a completely changed dog out there but looking forward to continued exercises this weekend out in the blind.
    • JBMasterAngler
      Drove all the way up to grindstone this morning from Forest Lake. As I'm driving along the shoreline, I can't stop admiring how beautiful of a day it is, and how great it will be to be on the water. Was totally amped up to fish for some trout! Then I pull up to the boat launch...and it's closed down!  This dredging project has been pushed back for years, then they finally decide to do it on a beautiful sunny day, that I picked to come here...on the last day of the lake trout season nonetheless! Needless to say, I was very upset! 
    • papadarv
      Actually DMV and DNR do quite well at their auctions. You win bid, You Pay, You own. No red tape, no collection process, simple and things seem to sell for quite a bit of money. Go and one see for yourself, its quite amazing. Lots of them at the Arden Hills DMV. Hard to collect money over the phone and on the internet. I do believe they will use the same auction process for this property sale as the DMV and DNR are good at it and a lot of buyers will be there. If the internet were to be used, the "political cronies" would need to create a bill, Ear Mark several million to develop a site, create an app, hire 40 to 50 people to manage and than increase taxes to cover the cost much like Obama Care Not a good plan. If your interested, go to auction, bring lots of money, win a bid and own. 2016 MN auction schedule if your interested in going to one. http://mn.gov/admin/citizen/surplus-property/auctions/schedule/
    • SpecialK
      They were dredging there today. Not sure if they are done or if it will take longer.