Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
Hookmaster

Direction arrow on underwater camera

Recommended Posts

Hookmaster

I am thinking of getting an underwater camera with the Xmas gift cards I'm expecting. Is it worth getting a model with the direction arrow on the screen? I know it tells you in which the direction the camera is pointing but how do you use it? Can someone give me some examples? What do you use to turn the camera? I plan to use this ice fishing and also checking out structure in open water. Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
hanson

Hookmaster-

I'm not a camera user yet, but I'm expecting my new one any day and I've been contemplating this purchase for over a year now.

How do you use it you ask. There are 2 distinctly different ways.

One method is called downviewing. When you downview, you point the camera straight down and drop the camera down the same hole you are fishing out of, or a hole very near the hole you are fishing out of, and observe your lure from above. You can watch the action of your lure and notice when a fish comes in from any direction.

The other method would be to view your lure from the side, which is the natural way for most cameras. When you view from the side, you want your lure and camera down separate holes but they need to be at the same depth. The distance you place the holes apart will depend on the clarity of the water in the particular lake you are fishing. When you ask about the directional arrow, this will help tell you which way your camera is facing in relationship to your lure.

For example, if your lure is in your left hole and your camera is in a hole 4' to the right of your lure and the directional arrow is pointing to the right, you'll know you need to rotate the camera 180 degrees to pick up your lure.

Without the directional pointer, you will have to keep slowly turning your camera until you see your lure on the screen.

The new Marcum VS 560 has the directional indicator as well as a small remote control that you can point at the camera to control the panning of the camera. You can also use the arrow keys located on the camera to rotate the camera in the water. The unique thing about the Marcum is the camera rotates within the housing, all the other cameras on the market rotate the camera cord and the camera from above the ice surface.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Fergus Mor McErc

I have an OVS 560. Like Chris Hanson said, the camera (and lights) rotate 360 degrees in it's housing. The direction indicator works like a compass; When the arrow is pointing straight up, the camera is looking north (regarless of the way the monitor is facing). So far I've only used the feature to find my bait when I first get started. smile.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
andy j

If you are looking for the best underwater camara on the market the Marcum 560 takes the cake. It is one great unit.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dan Wood

It is possible to locate your bait without the directional indicator, but it is tricky at best. I've wasted a lot of time rotating the camera around by the cable to locate my bait.

I'll be fishing with a MarCum VS 560 this year. This has a panning camera head (no need to rotate the camera by the cable anymore). It also has the directional indicator as mentioned above. This camera also has the most innovative lighting system on the market. I do expect this camera to set the new standard for underwater cameras into the future.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
BradB

I pre-purchased the new Aqua-Vu SV-100 along with the Aqua Vu MoPod2. This camera has both the on screen directional arrow, and the temperature read out on screen. The directional arrow can show either magnetic direction like a compass, or the direction the camera is pointing. With the MoPod2 (remote control tripod for turning the camera) this combination is the functional equivalent of the OVS560 and I was able to buy both for less than the price of the OVS560. It also has the fish shaped camera, the new Aqua Vu lighting system, and the Kevlar reinforced cable.

It should be available in a few weeks.

Brad

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
GoodToGo

Does the VS 460 have the directional arrow as well? The web site is a little unclear on this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ed Carlson

The Nature Vision Aqua-Vu SV (Smart View) is the real deal to track fish and fine tune yourself on structure in any season or environment.

Next to the quality of the picture and the display I feel the compass feature is the most useful tool on a underwater camera system. Given a choice between lights or a compass I would opt for the compass every time.

Take a good look at the features on the Aqua-Vu SV before you buy anything. It is a top notch all season underwater camera system.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Deitz Dittrich

I'm with a few others on this thread.. The Aqua-Vu SV is a great unit. It has the arrow on the screen which will tell you which way the camear is pointing. Which is nice, like if you drop the camera down and notice a weedline about 10 feet away and would like your bait nearer the weedline.. the arrow will then tell you which direction the weedline is. The other nice thing that the AquaVu will give you is all cameas come with the down view fin. For ice fishing the down view is the way to go!!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dan Wood

Goodtogo,

The 460 doesn't have the directional indicator, you would need to go up to the 560 for that option.

The VS 460 and 560 both have the downview capability.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Pete Riola

The 460 has no on screen directional. It does have down viewing. Not sure what advatage down viewing is though. I'd recommend you have the camera down a different hole than the one you're fishing. So sideways will give you more to see. It's personal preference. The 460 and 560 have a 5 inch Sony monitor which is very nice plus they have Nite Vu lighting. It's really nice to have the camera rotate iside the housing too...if you've ever messed with a turning cable exposed to the elements you know what I mean.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
rod bender

Quote:

The direction indicator works like a compass; When the arrow is pointing straight up, the camera is looking north (regarless of the way the monitor is facing).


I'm not sure this is correct. I believe the arrow direction indicator is pointing the direction (right, left, front, back or inbetween) the camera is facing, not the compass directions (north ,south, east and west). If you hold the camera and turn your unit the direction arrow will also turn. Be careful not to put you heater or other metal object next to your camera as this will throw off the magnets that control the arrows. Happened to me the other day and I couldn't figure it out until just now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
hanson

Rodbender-

I believe you are correct. At the ice show, the Marcum rep pointed the camera, lets say to my left, and then rotated the monitor left to right and in a circle and the direction indicator turned to show which way the camera was pointing.

He then did the reverse. He left the monitor in one place and rotated the camera, the direction indicator turned with the rotation of the camera.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
BradB

Here is how the Aqua-Vu camera directional arrow works, taken from the write up on the SV-100 on their website:

"Direct-Tech indicates direction in two ways: Absolute and Relative. In the Absolute mode, compass direction and bearing are displayed at the top of the screen. In the Relative mode, an arrow moves around the screen to show the camera's direction relative to the monitor. Knowing the camera's direction simplifies focusing on specific bottom structure and positioning your bait on the monitor."

As far as down view goes, I've found this very useful for ice fishing and, in fact, was the predominant orientation that I used last year. It helps you see the fish come in from all directions, and you can really tell how your presentation effects those fish. There are often quite a few fish around, and it is interesting to see how the pack moves. Also, you don't have to have your camera at the same depth as your bait, which might help in keeping the camera from spooking the fish. If you have the camera at the same level as your bait, you can't see the fish from behind you unless you turn it. Whether this is by remote control from above, or within the camera, I don't think it really matters. If you have to use your hand to turn the camera when a fish is interested, it increases the odds in you missing that fish. Plus, I really think you'd draw down the battery if you're constantly turning the camera to see what is behind you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Fergus Mor McErc

I've used the Marcum a few times now and the direction indicator does, indeed, seem to work like a compass (telling which way the camerea is pointing, n.s.e.w). This is from the Marcum VS560 user manual:

"The direction indicator has an arrow that points in the direction the camera is viewing regardless of the monitor position." "This is accomplished by the use of two magnetic compasses that talk back and forth through software that continuously calculate the diferential...." The monitor must be flat and level for it to be accurate so if you're walking around with it, the manual says, it will give inaccurate readings. The camera direction indicator won't work proporly if the montior is more than 10 degrees from level. smile.gif

Of course, I could be wrong, I am lots, and may have misinterpreted the manual. More experience with the camera will tell me for sure how it works.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
andy j

Pete, one of the main advantages of downviewing is it reducing setup time. You can use the camara out of the hole you are fishing, so you don't need to set up with a seperate hole, It saves time therefore making you more mobile. Ice fished legend Dave Genz developed this technique. The 560 does help reduce set up time for side viewing with the turning camara head though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dan Wood

I always use a third hole for the camera and prefer to view from the side. So it takes another 20 seconds to drill a hole, that isn't an issue for me... If you get a good fish on you may wish your camera wasn't down the same hole as your line! I've tried the top viewing and I just don't care for the view. From the side, it also allows me to look at both lines. Just rotate between the two baits. Just a personal preference thing I guess..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
BradB

Maybe our different opinions on down-viewing vs. side-viewing are based on water clarity. I like to down-view on Mille Lacs, where I'll have the camera a good 10 feet or so off the bottom and still be able to clearly see the bait and fish. It's particularly useful for perch fishing, as you can play keep away from the little ones and let the big ones come in from afar. A lot of times I'll see the bigger perch, or walleyes, 5 or 6 feet away from the bait and slowly sneaking up along the bottom. And other times, I'll see the big fish come come within 5 feet again, but move off as my presentation has spooked them. It's a good technique to learn how to attract the bigger fish, and see how they respond from further distances.

I can understand why you wouldn't do it as much in murky water, but it is an excellent technique when the water is clear and you ought to give it a shot. It is good to be able to see fish a full 360 degrees around your bait, and not have to turn a camera by means of remote control or by hand.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • delcecchi
      The DSL service is great since they ran the fiber down 24 a few years ago.   I was presuming that the poster didn't have that option if they were considering satellite.     AccessMN is another possibility if they are still around.  
    • Tony S
      OK I will post a report just on the offhand chance that someone else still reads these things.  Fished at Birchdale afternoon of Saturday 10/21 and morning of 10/22.  Fishing was good Saturday for keeper sized fish, nothing big but caught 29 fish in 6 hours,  mostly nice keepers 14 to 19 inches long and not too many dinks.  Sunday morning fishing was slow and then it got super windy so pulled the plug early and went home.  Jigging in shallower spots, could not troll crankbait because of debris on line.  Others had mixed success.  Shiners were around.  
    • Troy Smutka
      10/22/17     Hunted water in central MN from a boat blind both days. Despite gusty south winds one day and temps not exactly October-like, new ducks were around that moved in during a cold, clear night with a west wind during the week. Calendar migrators from the Dakotas and southern Canada. Saw eleven species and harvested ten--typical late October mixed bag. A mixed, medium-sized decoy spread with a crosswind on a point with the sun behind us was the ticket. An Avery Quick Set blind with fast grass mats and two Lucky Duck HD spinners rounded out the set-up. Subtle mallard quacks, chuckles, and drake whistles mixed with goose clucks, pintail and wigeon whistles locked up birds nice and close--no loud contest calling. Cold weather and West and NW winds this week should get a bunch of new birds in--probably a mixed bag of species still. We saw or heard eight flocks of specklebellies migrating on Sunday. Look for a show about one of these days of hunting on my You Tube channel (Fishing and Hunting the North Country) by later in the week.  Good luck, and I will see you out there somewhere.
    • Cliff Wagenbach
      I pulled my boat for the winter today. Sure hated to have to do that, but have tons of stuff to do to get ready for the fall, winter stuff! Cliff
    • MinnowBuckets
    • redlabguy
      Good day!  Keep the reports coming! We’re islanders and had to pull out a week ago. On my last day out by myself I boated a thick 28” walleye to close my season. We brought filets Home so my old fisherman, 95 year old dad could enjoy a good fry,  I still enjoy reading about the lake so keep reporting. Thanks, Dick
    • eyeguy 54
    • Ray Berg
      The wife and I were up to L O W  for whole week. Great weather, good fishing and fun time. Was able to fish 7 days split up between Morris point, Long point and the river. For me Long point was the better bite. May have seen a couple members of outdoors Mn on Tuesday out of LP. Let me know if I'm right. Also met member from Wisc. at Morris point( real good guy) Anyway didn't seem to matter much what color jig caught them on every color with frozen shiner. Some days were better then others but always caught fish. Ate several meals of fish and brought fish home. Also caught a 14 in perch that I brought into taxidermist. Plan on going back at least one more time this fall . ( Too good not to).
    • ANYFISH2
      That the best sounding plan yet!! same to you and your party.
    • monstermoose78
      Get em guys