Guests - If You want access to member only forums on FM. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on Fishing Minnesota.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
Jimmy from Cottage Grove

Walking Puppies?

Recommended Posts

Jimmy from Cottage Grove    0
Jimmy from Cottage Grove

Is it healthy to start walking puppies at a young age? Someone was telling me that it is unhealthy to walk a puppy untill they are six months old. He stated it had something to do with hurting there bone structure. Anyone ever here of that?? In other words I have a ten week old springer. And I am wondering if it is okay to take it on my daily one mile walk?? Or should I start at a smaller distance?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2thepointsetters    51
2thepointsetters

I start taking my dogs on small walks around the block when they are six weeks old. At 10 weeks 1 mile will be no problem. You will see if he starts to get tired.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ufatz    0
Ufatz

Don't know where your pal got his information but it is nonsense. Walk your puppy until he gets tired. Usually they'll just sit down, as if to say "okay, that's it. I'm pooped."

Walking will help BUILD bone strength! wink.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Powerstroke    20
Powerstroke

Daily walks (and sometimes twice daily with my springer) is great for a puppy. It teaches them many thing, you bond and begin socializations.

What is generally recommended against is taking your dog for a run. We're talking about the folks who run a couple miles with their dog and have them run beside a bicycle. Those things are hard on a puppy's joints and bones. You're not supposed to RUN a dog until they are 2yrs old.

Walking is fantastic for them. A tired dog is a happy dog. I know my springer would get into trouble and misbehave when he hadn't had a walk because he had so much energy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2thepointsetters    51
2thepointsetters

Quote:

Those things are hard on a puppy's joints and bones. You're not supposed to RUN a dog until they are 2yrs old.


where did you read or hear your not supposed to run a dog until its two?

Thats really crazy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ufatz    0
Ufatz

Okay. Lemme think about that. grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Powerstroke    20
Powerstroke

I got that from my vet and from books that I bought. LIke I said before though, the definition of RUN was you shouldn't be out jogging them and running full out for several miles.

Many people do this and its fine by me. I was just told to wait on those hard pounding activities until they are fully developed. I have a springer and he runs and jumps and I let him go all day in a field if he wants to, but its never a full out run for more than a few minutes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Powerstroke    20
Powerstroke

I'm just voicing what I've heard and read. I by no means am a dog trainer or a vet. I do think its sound advice though. Obviously the best person to answer your question is your vet. He will have the best picture of your dogs health and what it can and can't handle.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LABS4ME    0
LABS4ME

Exercise has little to do with bone stucture or skeletal deformaties. It may "pronounce" them at an earlier stage, but it will not cause bone problems, or hip / elbow dysplasia etc.

Wild dogs run their whole lives, hunting dogs generally run MILES each day and every day we take them out hunting, it's a fact of life for these dogs. I'm not waiting till after 2 to do that. Trial dogs are run hard from 9 months on. Bred correctly, little should be attributed to the actual running process.

In old age you can start to see some breaking down of the joint tissues from very active dogs. I have an 11 year old ex-trial dog that more or less has a shot knee (hock). But remember this dog ran trials or trained 300 days a year from 10 months on. This would be on par with a pro athlete. I guess I will take those 10 years over sitting a dog off to the side for it's first 2 years, to buy an extra year of service in their latter years of life.

One thing that does impact a dog's joints (and I think it has a lot to do with 'Chug') is the jumping in and out of trucks. Watch a dog when it's tired jump down off the tail gate. The entire blow is going in their shoulder. And when they jump up, all pressure is transferred to the knee. I teach all me dogs to jump in and out of the truck, even the tall 1 tons, but have since begun to assist them (even a little helps).

With all that said, young pups need to 'build' into a running regimen, just like humans. I wouldn't start until the pup is fully developed for many reasaons, ie: obedience on a leash, coordination, stamina, cardio still developing, pads toughening etc. But as to the original poster's question, walking would be fantastic for him! I wouldn't start at the full mile, but bring him up to that over the next 3-4 weeks. Think of a little kid and how far they can go... it's the same with a puppy. Work in your "sit', 'stay', 'here' and 'heel' commands on you walks. This will give him several little breaks along the way. If you have a quiet area he can go off leash and investigate the world, so much the better. Do your obedience drills before the fun time though so he equates fun as his reward and you won't be battling a 'tired' pup.

Good Luck!

Ken

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
311Hemi    0
311Hemi

I think what many here are getting mixed up is regular exercise and the dog walking/running vs "roading" a dog.

Regulars walks and running would be fine for a puppy or young dogs....your not going to have a puppy or young dog that does not run. This would go also be the case with the running the dog does while running marks/retrieves that the FT dogs might do, or hunting scenario's.

What is not recommended is jumping on your bike and taking a 4 month old dog out running for extended periods/lengths, or "roading" the pup. This would also include "roading" a young dog using weights.

I personally would not "road" a dog until it's joints are fully developed, around 18 months up to two years old. I believe there is a difference between this and field trails and/or hunting.

Also...as Labs mentioned....jumping can also play a role into this. I will try to help the dog in/out of the back of the truck as often as possible. Especially young dogs. I would also recomend working into longer distances on young dogs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LABS4ME    0
LABS4ME

Good point Hemi... I guess I never think of 'roading'. I own labs... 'roading' is not in the cards! grin.gif

I know owners of labs who regularily 'run' (jog) a couple miles with their 1 year old labs and have no health issues. They aren't running mini-marathons, just a 2-3 mile run for conditioniong.

Lots of swimming for stamina and lots of 'wind sprints' on retrieves for my pooches...

Good Luck!

Ken

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LABS4ME    0
LABS4ME

and oh yeah... for them to run would mean I'd have to too! Ummmm Yeaaahhh, riiiight! grin.gif

Good Luck!

Ken

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
311Hemi    0
311Hemi

Quote:

and oh yeah... for them to run would mean I'd have to too! Ummmm Yeaaahhh, riiiight!
grin.gif


LOL...I hear ya.

I am doing a couple miles (3-5 times a week) right now with my 2 yo lab.....but I am riding a bike and the fastest I go is an light easy trot for him. No running at all during this because he has joint issues.

I know some lab guys that road their dogs for 20-30 miles a day. shocked.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Eric Wettschreck    0
Eric Wettschreck

I'm not running unless a big mean dog is chasing me!!! grin.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
tealitup    1
tealitup

Ok so I have been walking with my dog for about 1 mile in the morning - she is 8 weeks. Is this too much? She seems to "crave" the walks in the A.M. (I just figure since I am working this might help run-off her energy).

Also, since jumping is bad; is it bad for a little puppy to run up the stairs? She struggles once and awhile.

Sorry for the stupid questions.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LABS4ME    0
LABS4ME

If she is handling the walks, I say go for it. You're right, it probably helps burn off energy for the time you're at work.

I don't think stairs are any prblem at all, it's the physical act of a true jump: IE: all your weight working agaist you. And for the record, I think the jumping down is worse than the jump up. The 'lunging' up and down steps probably helps build muscle... just like a stair climber.

Good Luck!

Ken

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
311Hemi    0
311Hemi

Quote:

And for the record, I think the jumping down is worse than the jump up.


The one thing that worries me about the jumping up is an ligament issue...that being a partial/complete tear with the trust of the upward jump from the rear legs.

With that being said, I don't know anyone personally that has had this happen.

Now...I wont say I never let him jump in back...because he still does it once in a while.....but most often I am lifting in in/out. Again my dog has joint issues...so that is part of the reason why.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Powerstroke    20
Powerstroke

Hemi, thanks for making that distiction. Roading is the term I was looking for. Thats what I was trying to explain but you did a much better job.

I know what you mean about the jumping in and out of the truck. My little springer can do it, but occasionally he slips or doesn't quite make it and I watch him hit his chest on the gate on fall onto the ground. One day he nearly hit my trailer ball and that was the end of that. Now I make him sit and I help him up. I'd hate to see him cut open or injured from slipping going in or out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • Daniel Anderson
      Trolling or casting jigs and spinners(silver or gold are best for pike IMO) near the weeds, in bays, etc, cranks, and top water buzz baits around weedy areas are how I get most of my pike. Use a leader. Orange jig heads with a sparkly yellow twister tail and a jumbo leech gets me more pike than any other method. Your mileage may vary.
    • Cliff Wagenbach
      I had lunch there a couple of days ago. Great service and good food! I did not see any illegal type aliens there at that time!  Cliff
    • delcecchi
      Sorry, don't remember TJ Hooker.  Besides I make it a practice to avoid hookers....  (rim shot)
    • TomWehler
        This post is turning into an 80's  TJ HOOKER episode! To fun to turn off an so bad it needs to be made fun of. : )      
    • delcecchi
      This year?   It is new this year.... Apparently a lot of businesses are having trouble hiring seasonal employees.
    • OhioVike
      I have only been there a few times, but that doesn't make any sense based on my visits.  
    • Southern_IL_Boy
      I am headed to MN for my annual trip and wanted to target pike on leech. For the past 5-6 years I have been kayaking smaller lakes around the area but now I am back to having a decent boat for bigger waters. Used to fish the east side flats in Headquarters and Boy bay prior to my kayak days. Usual came earlier in the year as well. Bucktails on weedlines still my best bet or do you think crankbaits are the way to go just off weedlines? Better spots than others? Should be there a few days before / after Labor Day. 
    • Surface Tension
        I believe the  problem here is a hull with rocker.   At different trim and speed the hull does just that, rocks.   Normally you'd trim in, throttle up and once on plane, throttle back to cruise speed and adjust the trim out.    To be trimmed all in at WOT or even cruising speed would make must hulls plow water at the bow.   In the case with rocker you usually find the porpoise stops when you increase speed.   The fin might be enough to lift the transom up and stabilize it.   Let us know what you do and how it works.
    • Daniel Anderson
      Went and tried a new spot... 3 snacky cats. One of them took my rod straight into the river and I had to dive in after it. Good times.
    • mrpike1973
      I use the Daiwa ct r also have 2 of them best out there in my opinion.