Glock 20 shooting

[Dahitman44]

Okay -- I won another shot gun last year and I traded it for a Glock 20. That is the 10 mm version that is legal for hunting. I also have a .357 that I shoot very well.

Problem -- I can't hit my fish house with it if I was sittin inside of it. Really, I am BAD.

Shot it last weekend at a barrel 10 yards away. Had a paper target up and didn't even hit the target at 10 yeards. Kept adjusting my aim and I finnal hit the target by aiming in the upper right corner of the paper not the target.

Anyone have any thought on what is wrong with me and what I can do about it?

Thanks

marc

[Gissert]

Are the rear sights adjustable? I am not familiar with Glock sights.

If not, you might have to have a gunsmith take a drift and move your forward sight to adjust the aim point.

Are you aiming with your dominant eye? It is not unusual, especially for right handed people, to later learn they are left eye dominant. I happen to be one of these people, but my dad caught it when I was about 8 years old. ! have been shooting left handed ever since.

If I try and shoot a handgun with my right eye, my aim is WAY off.

[cliffy]

The rear sight should be adjustable...need a special little tool to push it from side to side. Also, make sure your not jerking the trigger...the glocks have a lot of slack in the trigger and its pretty easy to start slapping the trigger. I might suggest buying some dummy (sp?) rounds to practice a nice smooth trigger pull. Just my two cents.

[Dahitman44]

Good points, guys I will try that.

Cliffy -- you are right one with the trigger.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

[surfs]

slappy trigger, my glock has a constant 5lb trigger pull. This is the first time I've heard the opposite. Best of luck!

[Rotwieler]

i know when i shoot pistols my trigger sqeeze is what throws my shots of 9 times out of 10. i know a guy who say to counter act this you have to start with a very slow sqeeze and only apply the pressure when the sights are on the target. take it for what its worth, i don't shoot pistol too much because i cant hit crap.

[cliffy]

Lets just say Glocks have a “unique” trigger pull....some people love them..while others have a difficult time adjusting. I am a firearms instructor and I see 90 percent of problems with Glock shooters comes from the trigger pull issues. I had problems with trigger pull when I made the switch to carrying a Glock 10 years ago. I was use to a much shorter and crisper trigger action. I would say Glock is much longer, with a lot of slack, compared to other pistols.

As I stated before, buy a pack of dummy rounds and randomly mix them into your clips with the live ammo. Its easier if you have a friend load your clips so you don’t have a clue when a dummy round is coming. You will be amazed and shocked to see how hard you are pulling or jerking the trigger when you come to a dummy round. This is something that is good practice for beginners as well as experienced shooters. In my line of work, I have had the chance to see some great Glock shooters and their trigger pull is always consistently smooth. As an observer, I wouldn’t even notice they pulled the trigger until they whacked and racked the dummy round out of the weapon.

The other thing that really helped me is how far you release the trigger after the shot. I only let the trigger come back until you hear the “click”. This will take out all the trigger slack for the next shot. Making future triggers extremely short and crisp....and less chance of jumping the round.

Good luck.

[Dahitman44]

Cliff --

I think I am following you but I am not sure how the dummy round will help. Can you explain more of that.

I think I need to get used to shooting the glock -- it has to be a trigger-thing. I am good shot with the 357 which has a more "nornal" trigger.

[cliffy]

The purpose of the dummy rounds is to check and see if you are jerking or slapping the trigger when firing. A dummy does not fire..they are just a plastic bullet....the ones we use are bright orange in color

Just mix them in with the live ammo in your clips. Its best to have someone else load the clip so you have no idea where they are or when they are in the chamber. Then you just aim and shoot as normal...and when you come to a dummy round, watch and see if you are flinching, jerking or slapping. Then just tap and rack a new round in the chamber and continue. I have been using this practice for years and it really shows when you have a problem anticipating the recoil of the weapon. Most people will notice that they compensate for the recoil by pushing forward and down...and this gets worse and worse over time until there is little to no consistency in their shooting. If you can diagnose this as a problem..it can be fixed. Just takes time and its more of a mind or matter thing.

Like I said before, some of the best shooters I have ever seen will have absolutely no movement on the weapon when firing a dummy round.

Good luck.

[Dahitman44]

That was helpful I did not know what you were talking about -- now I got it.

BTW -- Dummy rounds -- I thought you meant blanks.

Also I do jump a little i know. It does fire a lot lower -- that must be it. Going to get some dummies -- Know where i can get some besides in my boat?

[cliffy]

You might check the local sport shops...I would think they would have them. I have always got them from a Law Enforcement supply company out of Minneapolis called "Streichers". Just google strieichers and you will find it. They are in ammo section called Saf-t-trainers or "Inert Training Cartridges". A bag of 25 should cost you around 15 bucks. Sorta spendy but they do really help.

PS:

I have a few dummies in my boat as well.......cant live without them.