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ok guys i got some questions for you bwca vets....first i'll say i am an avid outdoorsman, however...the sister/brother in-law asked if the wife and myself would want to go up to the bwca in mid august, so i said sure since i had never been there before and always wanted to go. well i just found out that they have NOTHING planned and some how i've been nominated as trip planner......if you can't already tell i'm just bursting at the seams with joy about this. but anyway on to the point of this post.

i need ideas on a shorter trip with some good fishing opportunities.( lakers and walleye, pike to!)

i have never been on a trip with the in-laws so i'm not sure how solid they will be in the bush. i know right now your saying why the heck do you want to take them into the bwca for then?. - well basically i've had this idea planted into my head and now i'm stuck on it. i'm sure you can understand. so something that you don't need to be an army ranger to complete is a plus!

so there we have it. please help me!

Posted

Depending on the gear you have, you may want to check with an outfitter. Plenty available in the Ely area and up the Gunflint, plus not as expensive as one might think.

The other option might be to stay at a resort on the edge of the B-Dub, and do day trips into the area.

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IBOT #129, B-Dub Chapter. (Or is it Metro Chapter? - I'm so confused)

Posted

you may want to look into trout lake north of lake vermilion. you can bring motors up to 25 horse in and there is a mechanized portage so you dont have to portage. once you are into trout there are some lakes that are close so if you bring a canoe you can do day trips into the more remote lakes. if i am not mistaken there is even a lake you can get into by paddling up a small creek. trout lake holds all of the fish you are looking to target and the scenery is absoloutly beautiful. it would be a good beginers trip since you dont have to portage if you dont go into the other lakes. good luck hope this helps!

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a bad day at the lake is better than a good day at work

Posted

Get in touch with Bud Darling at Way of the Wilderness Outfitters. He's been up there forever, runs a nice operation, and is a very good man to do business with. He can provide you with trip suggestions, maps, and can also get your BWCA trip permit, which you MUST have. I've been going up to the BWCA ever since dirt was invented. If I can assist you in any way, please feel free to email me at:[email protected] Keith

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YOU CAN'T BS AN OLD BS'ER!

Posted

For smallies and eyes' (no lakers thou) try the Baker Lake entry point SE of Sawbill Lake. Go up through Kelly, Jack, as far as you want. All these Lakes are good fishing, fairy quiet (only 3 groups a day) and give newcomers confidence on the small water. Cherokee has lake trout, temperance lakes are great overall.
On your point about not knowing how your in laws will respond on being in the bush; I think this is one of the great things about the BW.
AFter a long day of paddling into the wind and portaging the excitement builds as your near your long planned campsite around the next point. The thunder is getting much louder in the west and the wind has gotten worse only to find the campsite occupied. It starts to pour out, and the wind is blowing you back to the last portage as you struggle to orient the map. The next site is over a mile away. This is when you find out what people are really like. I say go for it. You find out things about others and yourself in the BW that you simply can't find in the techno world.
From a guy that's led a few greenhorn's in the bush for the first time; stay on the small lakes, watch the hooks and the axes and make sure you will have a dry shelter.
A small flask helps also.
Keep your line tight.

  • 'we have more fun' FishingMN Creators
Posted

I think sticking to smaller water with your group may be a good idea also.
The Baker entry point is a good suggestion and will get you into good Walleye, Northern and SM Bass fishing.
I don't know how long your going for but at least get to Jack. If you can make it into South Temperance that would be even better.
What do you have for gear?

Posted

Look into Brule and Kawishawi (sp). Brule is a bigger lake but it has many camping spots and good fishing. Kawishawi has a camping area that is actually just outside of the BWCA. You can drive right to your camp site and fill out a day permit to head into the BWCA. It is a smaller lake with some decent Walleye and Pike. For your first time I would stay away from portaging into other lakes. You can pack a little heavier and be a little more comfortable. Don't overdue yourself or the inlaws on your first trip out.

Granny

Posted

First of all I wish you good luck and remember above all else a good attitude almost insures a good time.

Unless yourself or somebody else in your party have been to the B-dub before or done some wilderness camping I would highly recommend an outfitter. It will temper a lot of the first time in the B-dub frustrations.

Have fun!

HB

Posted

i think i like granny's idea. since i doubt the inlaws are going to pack light enough to do the portaging thing. and the time is definately running thin on the bwca reservations. i have camped and such plenty of times, but like i said i'm not sure about the inlaws. so does anyone have any other ideas that would make us "feel" like we are in the bwca?. i would like to stay away from the big lake thing if possible. anybody know a web site that i could find locations and stats on the camp sites available in a national forest?.

Posted

I agree with granny. Brule is a good starter. Going up there next week for 4 days. You can bring just about anything your canoes will hold, and if you choose to make a day trip , there are a number of lakes to go too. Mulligan is a good one to check out, brookies and rainbows as I remember. Two short portages. Will post our results and some good pics of fish , if there are any???

Posted

You can check out your dates and opening at www.bwcaw.org If you want to stay on Brule check out "Brule ONLY". You can still make day trips into other lakes but you must camp on Brule. Give yourself plenty of time to find a camp site in case they are taken. Many camp sites are withing an hour or two paddle of the launch.

Kawishiwi is a nice drive but in my opinion you don't really get the bwca feeling because your right next to your vehicle.

After you pick your lake, go out and buy a map of the lake that shows the camp sites. We get ours at Gander.

Let me know if you go with Brule, I will give some more info on fishing spots and camp sites. LSW2002 at AOL.COM

Granny

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

I suggest East Bearskin into Alder Lake - nice scenery, good smallies, 'eyes, L. trout, and northern. Lake One - lots of islands, good 'eyes, sunnies every time I've been there, Kawishiwi Lake - extremely easy and some good 'eyes and perch. Make sure every one has ther own toilet paper, bug spray, flashlight, and so on. Get together on the gear so you aren't doubling up. Get a good list together and think easy eating with limited ingredients to add. Like 'just add water' stuff. Pancakes, mac'n cheese,freeze dried etc. I prefer to have larger breakfast after morning fishing. A good dinner, and munch in between. Freeze whatever you can to keep your cooler cool-Hot Dogs, hamburger, whatever. Figure about 1.5 to 2.5 lbs food per person, per day. Use plastic garbage bags over your gear and food and ziplocs hold whatever you don't want sand in. Bring extra ziplocs for fish and garbage bags for your trash. and whatever. Rope - 50 ft. and at least 1/4" to hang your food, another 50 for whatever. Use a rock and a good 1/4" rope for an anchor. There a ton of things to suggest, but you sound like you will figure out most of it. I have introduced only about 20 people, but they all said they will come back. Best of luck! I think it's great when people enter the BWCA.

Posted

I have to disagree with some of the other comments as far as portaging goes... I think that a BWCA "virgin" needs to do at least one or two portages to get the true experience... It is one of the most fulfilling things in the world to see that other lake at the end of a long (or short!) portage.

On the other hand, I agree with the others in that you should get some advice (if not gear) from an outfitter.

Finally, have FUN!

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