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I have a 14 foot V-guide with tiller controlled 9.9 horse. I want to get a bigger badder trolling motor and am wondering a couple things. I think I want to run a transom mount but don't see any foot-controlled models. I thought I had once. Is it just stupid to run a transom mount with a foot pedal? If I go with a motor that needs a 24 volt, I assume there is some way to link 2 12's together.

Any suggestions on models? Thrust? My 9.9 Mercury does not idle down enough for really slow trolling and so I use the troller a lot. Thanks, guys (and gals).

Mike

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If you want a foot control go with a bow mount. If you back troll a lot go with a transom mount and I have never seen a transom mount electric but they may make them I just havent seen them.
55# will be more than enough.

[This message has been edited by Northlander (edited 05-11-2004).]

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Ok, we will continue on this post...
As NL said a 55# thrust should be enough...
Now to what and $$$.
You said you "use the troller a lot?" do you have a second motor?
Assuming you have a 14' lund with a area to mount a bowmount trolling motor I would go that route. I have an ext. cable for my bowmount and never leave my capt. seat - I am funny that way (lazy)...
If trolling cranks and you need to slow down the main motor - get a wind sock and tie it off the front. Then you have a drift control device that also slow's the 9.9 if needed. If you only jig and bottom bounce, a transom mounted motor would be fine as you are in the aft already. A good batt will get you 6-10 hr's of use with a 42-55# motor running 10-50% (always get a maximizer built in) on the motor. More than that and you are running rougher water and the backtrolling with the elec is not the most effective way. That is where a bowmount (less water resistance) starts to make sense, or the main motor.

So, heading out day fishing and charging when EVERY time you return to dock I would run something like a 55# +/- and a stowaway 750 type/class battery. If the trolling motor has a battery meter that is a great plus - they are very good!

I would need to know more about your fishing style, lakes, needs, boat layout, etc. to go into more. If cost isn't a issue a 2 bank on board battery charger, it would ease your mind as well. As, you know the electronic's should not be hooked up to your trolling batt.

B2

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Thanks again for some good advice. The boat is pretty traditional small fishing boat with several captn type seats (Tracker v-guide). I got a tiller control for the 9 horse because all I ever fished were smaller lakes (under 1,000 acres) and never needed more and always loved to hold the tiller (I guess it reminds me....well, never mind there). I use the trolling motor to troll shoreline for bass and also to troll deeper water for walleyes or northerns...often back troll for walleyes. The small trolling motor I use now has trouble holding us steady if there is much wind even with my hefty kid in the front end. The gas motor is pull start but I run all the other electronics off the trolling motor--graph, live well, lights (though not much). If I had it to do over, I would have gotten a bigger motor (gas)....the 9.9 just doesnt move us very fast. Thanks again...Mike

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Sorry, did it again!
Let's talk electric~

Batteries may be connected in series, parallel, or combinations of both.

Batteries connected in series -
have the positive terminal of one battery connected to the negative terminal of another battery. This has the effect of increasing the overall voltage but the overall capacity remains the same. For example, the 12-V lead-acid batt. connected in series with another 12v batt would be 24 volts and the same single amperage(sp)/capacity.

Batteries connected in parallel -
have their like terminals connected together. The overall voltage remains the same but the capacity is increased. For example, if two 12-V marine batteries were connected in parallel,(+ to +, - to - via a short jump cable - can buy most batt. places) the overall voltage for the batteries would still be 12 V. However, the connected batteries would have twice the capacity of a single 12-V battery.

B2 - hope that helps?

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Mike,
Looks like we are posting at the same time - i take a while with my crappy typing and spelling skills. You might have interferance(sp) with your locator (lines across face) when the trolling motor is running?

I would upgrade the transom elect and one good battery. Make sure you have a deep cycle charger - otherwise you will be burning up $75+ battery's all year.

Let me know if you need specific brands recommended - I no longer work in the outdoor retail field (although I miss it) so, you will an would always get my honest answer - I Never (knowingly) recommend junk!

Butch

dbrula at msn dot com

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Posted

DuluthGuy covered the logistics of the battery issue.
I would stay away from a 24 volt system in such a small boat especially with only a 9.9 primary motor. A 12 volt system for trolling should be plenty. I don't know what lb thrust you have now but if a 55 lb can't do the job then it's time to use the 9.9 You should be able to get that motor down to a crawl for back trolling. I'm partial to bow mount APs so that would be my choice if you had to choose between the two.

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Thanks, guys. I plan to get to Cabela's this evening and get a new trolling motor and also a battery or two. I am wondering if I need a better charger. I have two, but one came from Wal-Mart and one from Sears....both about $40. They do have a deep cycle automatic setting which I use. The on board chargers I have looked at cost abunch more...so I wonder if what I have is junk. I am planning on getting a 55# Maxxum. Next week, I start on making sure the trailer can make another trip "up north." It is a long way from Lawrence, KS to Ely!

Mike

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