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Artificial vs Live Bait

Keith_MN

By Keith_MN
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jet man Enthusiast

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ICE, thanks for the reponse.I am ROFLMAO about the barbs in buttocks comment. I have been lucky (knock on wood or my head) that I have only had one in the forearm. I too enjoy a lively debate and have been known to mix "toungue in cheek" and serious discussion together to the point that it can be hard to separate the two; nothing personal intended as well.

About now my Smallie fishing buddies on this forum will be suggesting we get a room-LOL and KT is putting down his popcorn.

I think the barbless concept would undoubtably have significant impact. My son and I just had that discussion when we were pre fishing for a tournament and as usuall barbs were pinched down. I know when you bury a buzz or spinner bait hook it can do a lot of damage on the way out.

The flyrod details you provided is exactly the type of information that needs to get promoted and taught. I would suggest you make a seperate post detailing the same information and the benefit to encourage all the flyrod guys to pay more attention to those details.

I tried the flyrod thing in 88 with the low water but was too lightly equipped. Caught some nice fish but the battle was ongoing for way to long. If I try it again I will have to gear up to the weight levels you mentioned.

Keith, good topic to have on the board because wether we fish with spinning gear, fly gear, live bait or artificical any changes we can make to find ways to conserve the resource is good.

Ice, enjoyed the humor and debate and someday maybe we will cross paths up my way.

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Bobby Diesel Rookie

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I've been fly fishing for years and maybe plastics would win on a lake but I'm sorry RR I'm pretty sure that on a river the flyrodder will win. Post the date of the challenge and I'll be there.

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river rat316 Mentor

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you guys have to be kidding me, there is no dam way a flyyrod would win, Ive been fishing this river since I was 4-5 yrs old and am not a newb, there is no way a fly would win, I could care less about the frickin conditions or anything else having to do with it. Once you limp wristers learn how to properly measure a fish I will take any of you up on that challenge, actually Ill take all 3 of you on that think a flyrod would beat conventional tackle (thats right 3 on 1 for those tha need clarification), and by the way I dont fish plastics all to often actually about 10% of the time.I will leave my tactics and tackle a secret and no its not illegal or dynamite. So the next time one of you limpwristers has a stinking 16" dink on and it takes you 4 hours to land it, you have something to ponder.....

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Did I forget to mention, not only do I eat bass... I use live bait 100% of the time.grin.gif

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And I suppose your throwing that bait on a 6wt fly rod with 4x tippet to huh? and letting em take it before setting while letting em fight for awhile before you bring em in.... Thats what I always do to.... screw the resource theres plenty of other rivers out there tongue.gif bassturd

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pjkpro Newbie

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Ice,

hmm... perhaps a little chip on someones shoulder? Then again we had an excellent float. Watching Ice bust some bass with the fly rod was cool... all fish were landed quickly. Thanks again for the grub!

I fish some of that stretch two, three times a week using both bait and artificials. I killed two fish the last two weeks using bait(not with Ice). Clipped the line but I have my doubts. Perhaps I'll switch to the fly... Better duck!

pjk

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Toad Experienced

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If we're talking which bait's better-- particularly in summer-- consider two days on the river with Mr. Genz, who's a big fan of redtails for smallmouth. On the trips, his fish clicker read "98" and "107." I really wanted to prove that plastics could be nearly as productive, so I started with several top plastics options, then switched to plugs, etc. It wasn't even close. Smallmouths on the river flat out chow on redtail chubs. Use a #1 Eagle Claw L702 non-offset circle hook with the barb filed down-- you'll harm almost no fish at all-- and very probably fewer fish than you would with plugs, topwater, buzzbaits, etc.

-Toad

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I don't see why you think that bait automatically kills more fish than artificials. I myself have never intentionally fished for smallmouths with bait, but I don't see why a jig and minnow is any different than a jig and plastic worm or tube? confused.gif

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