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Do you guys ever fish the streams for these little devils. ive caught sone good ones (12"+) in a couple select pools on some local streams. yeah they dont run huge but they sure are exciting at dusk on a Royal Wulf or other dry flys.

[This message has been edited by Dry Fly (edited 04-11-2004).]

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Dry Fly, Welcome to FM. I've beat the brush after Brookies more times then I can remember. Started out as a kid using peddle power to get to fishing grounds. Pretty tight fly casting on our creeks. Caught a lot of branches in my time too. smile.gif
Most of my Brookie fishing is on the inland trout lakes now. Only time I mess with flies is during a hex hatch.

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Welcome Dry Fly. I also like to creep through the brush in search of those diminutive brookies. ST is right on about catching branches and I often wonder why I do it, but then there are the times when you find a new pool and its surface is dimpled with little trout noses and your fly can't stay afloat because it's constantly being attacked by brilliant trout...and you wonder why you don't do it every day.

ST, I have been looking for a good hex hatch but have yet to hit one. I haven't been able to make the trip over to the Brule that late at night. Do you know of any hex closer to Duluth?

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Posted

Hey Dry Fly, those bigguns are coasters, a Lake Superior strain of brook trout. I do a little bit of flyfishing for inland brookies, lots of roll-casting thanks to the alders, but most of my fish come on a nightcrawler pattern. smile.gif I've caught them up to 14" on my favorite stream, lots of 10-13 inchers.

Posted

I do lots of small stream fishing for brookies. The Upper Cascade is out my backdoor. It's the only upper river you can really fly-fish with some room to cast. The biggest brookie I have ever caught is a solid 15 incher a few years ago.

I like to also hike into the small streams where nobody else will go. The best way to fish these is with an ice fishing rod. You can put flies,spinners or worms on the line and you can cast them easy. I prefer to use flies as I release all my native brookies.

There are spots where you can get 13 plus inchers. Beaver ponds, and other out of the way places. You have to put leg work in. You would be suprised at how deep some of them tiny creeks can get! I have gone over my waders plenty of times.


Good Luck,

Trapper

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Posted

This will probably apply to local Duluth fisherman, but growing up in Duluth (I am now 56) we use to fish the upper Sucker, Upper French, Upper Lester, Lower Miller, and id realy good just using a rod the old man gave us with some string tied on and worms making bobbers out of sticks. To many miles on the old bike. What are waders?? The upper sucker was great with all the old CC Dams that were still in place along with the upper French small narrow streams with fast water going into little pools. Last time I fished the upper French, Had to wade thru cow s___t just to get to t5he river, and then caught nothing but chubs no pools/fast water. The upper Sucker pretty much the same, only there you had to worry about the wild pigs, No pools and slow water.

Maybe its time we figuered a way to start getting these litlle rivers back into shape and not stagnet creeks

The upper Knife off the Fox Farm Road use to be killer to fish but was good until it started to silt over

BOY do I date myself or what. Must be just the ramblings of an old man. >>>>later the load

  • 'we have more fun' FishingMN Creators
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Hey old man been to all the spots you've mentioned. Lived within 1/2 a mile from that pig farm. Go to the end of the road then head in. Do you remember the farmer that would start his tractor up then come out and shot at ya.

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Is that the one on the corner were the road makes a sharp turn to the right??? Some of the best fishing was behind his land. Not to many people remeber those days. It was some nice brookie fishing nothing huge but enough for a meal. What road did ya live on. The pig farmers were scary always remindes me of Delervince...Later the load

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One of my fondest memories is when I was 16 years old and drove to the north shore by myself. I was camping on the temperence river and followed a tiny stream called Honeymoon Creek a long way upstream from where it flows into the Temperence. I took a short ultralight spinning rig, some tiny hooks and some earthworms I managed to scratch out of that sparse northeastern Minnesota soil. I caght quite a few small native brookies, as I remember the largest might have been 10 inches.
It looked like a tiny magical kingdom as I crawled through the brush to follow the creek, miniature waterfalls, tiny pools, gurgling water, one of the most fun little adventures I remember.

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Is that pig farmer still out there? If I remember right one of his boys did go to jail for killing someone.

  • 'we have more fun' FishingMN Creators
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I don't know if they're still there.
Yes they have had their troubles. Lets just leave it at that.
Beautiful area with lotsa nice trout water all round there.

Load, don't know if I have your new addy, sent you an email a couple days ago.

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      https://www.timberjay.com/stories/moccasin-point-upgrade-has-longtime-users-concerned,22802   Moccasin Point upgrade has longtime users concerned DNR hopes to get major remake of key access underway later this year Posted Thursday, March 20, 2025 10:36 am   Marshall Helmberger LAKE VERMILION— With funding finally in place, the Department of Natural Resources is planning to move forward with an estimated $2-plus million renovation of the Moccasin Point landing, and users of the site say they’re concerned about the changes. The landing has been heavily used for decades by anglers, Boundary Waters visitors, residents of nearby islands and other remote-access properties on Lake Vermilion and, perhaps most critically, by emergency responders for everything from fire to medical response. Moccasin Point has also been a protected harbor for private barges loading and unloading as they service the many water-access properties in the area. 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Kelling acknowledges that it’s not the only reason for replacing the structure. “With our redesign it’s just not in the right location,” he said. Adequate parking is another major concern of longtime users of Moccasin Point. Tim Logan, whose family has owned island property near the landing since the 1950s, said plans the DNR had shared a few years ago seemed to show less parking than is typically used at the site. Schmidt notes that during high-traffic weekends, the parking area is frequently full and overflow parking can extend for hundreds of feet along Moccasin Point Rd. She said she counted 163 vehicles parked at the landing at one point last Memorial Day weekend and said there are routinely 90-100 vehicles during the summer season. Many of the regular users of the landing, particularly those on island properties, use the site for long-term parking of their vehicles for days, weeks, or months at a time. That’s unusual at public landings, which are typically limited to day use. 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