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sartel dam


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i dont know if this the right area to post this, but saint cloud is as close i could find.

does anyone know if there ice under the sartel dam next to the paper mill? i know that with out currentbecause of the dam it might be do able.

any info on any ice conditions would be appreciated.

thanks and good luck.

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Fins,

You might try posting on the Mississippi River North forum also. Some of the river rats from that area may have some info for you.

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fins: I was past there yesterday afternoon and there is no ice and no one fishng there. One of the gates is open and water is flowing pretty freely. the 10th St Dam in St cloud by the college is another popular spot however there is no ice below that dam at this time either. Hope this helps. Bill

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We have to get an entire week of below zero weather in order to get marginal safe ice out there and even then they will open the dam a little to break up the ice. Be EXTREMLY cautions if you venture out there.

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There was at least 3 guys fishing there on Friday afternoon. I wnet by at 4:30 and they were dragging their stuff out. At 6ish, they had their portable set up and looked pretty well settled in.

Tom B

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There was at least 3 guys fishing there on Friday afternoon. I wnet by at 4:30 and they were dragging their stuff out. At 6ish, they had their portable set up and looked pretty well settled in.

Tom B


that was us out there braving the cold...all we caught were eelpout and the cops had a word with us afterwards...something about how the city is liable if anything were to happen to us down there. don't understand how it is different from fishing down there in the summer but the officer assured us that it was and that we would be ticketed if caught on the ice down there again. We refer to it as the Dam Conspiracy...

SA/wdw

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I have fished there in past years with my portable..tons of eelpout an some walleyes

funny the local police department considering they have no authority at all while yer on the water..thats DNR

The city may control the earth beneath the water but they have no control of the ice sittin on it..thats DNR..follows along trespassing rules where a person who has free access up a river into a landlocked lake is not in violation of any trespeass laws unitl his ankor touches the land beneath him..or if hes trapping stakes his trap into the earth in the water..

wish theyd interfere with my fishing rights by pulling that around me

if thats the case..where are they when boats are fishing was inside the legal distances?

its nonesense an that kinda law enforcement is a joke an waste of your tax dollars

its dangerous fishing if your not experienced in ice an rivers..i have unched a 6 inch hole an walked 3 feet over an it was 2" due to currents

but ya use yer head an yer chisel an respect the river an youd be fine

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I have fished there in past years with my portable..tons of eelpout an some walleyes

funny the local police department considering they have no authority at all while yer on the water..thats DNR

The city may control the earth beneath the water but they have no control of the ice sittin on it..thats DNR..follows along trespassing rules where a person who has free access up a river into a landlocked lake is not in violation of any trespeass laws unitl his ankor touches the land beneath him..or if hes trapping stakes his trap into the earth in the water..

wish theyd interfere with my fishing rights by pulling that around me

if thats the case..where are they when boats are fishing was inside the legal distances?

its nonesense an that kinda law enforcement is a joke an waste of your tax dollars

its dangerous fishing if your not experienced in ice an rivers..i have unched a 6 inch hole an walked 3 feet over an it was 2" due to currents

but ya use yer head an yer chisel an respect the river an youd be fine


agreed

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Not 100% possitive but I do believe there is a city ordinance that controls ice fishing "below" the dam. Therefore the city oficials do have jurisdiction. My opinion with the convergance of 2 currents "water from the dam system & water from Watab Creek" anyone that is fool enough to walk on that ice in a year like we've had and falls through should be left to fend for themselves. Why should someone with enough common sence have to risk their lives to save those who have none. Figure it out the ice only formed here a couple of days ago, there is current, just because the ice is 3 or 4 inches here does not mean it isn't skim ice in another place I did not see too many folks checking the ice with a chisel as they walked out as I was watching from my back yard. For those of you that must fish this marginal ice I'll make sure I wave to you as you float by my place if and when you fall through or wind up on a floating sheet of ice. A couple of year back there were 2 gentlemen that could not wait to get on the river ice. They walked down past our place one sat on shore with a rope tied to the other who walked out to fish. When the one had fished for a while they reversed roles The ice was thin enough that as soon as he punched one hole he was standing in about an inch of water. These are the people that might think twice before procreating.

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they can close the park/land on the west side of the dam making it illegal to to access the ice

they have no jurisdiction otherwise

DNR is in control of that situation...department of engineers an hydrology can set new regulations...but doubt that they dont enforce the ones in place already

your right about the procreation of some though..its those few with no commonsense that are making this an issue already im sure

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Roamer,

Like so many others who only pay attention to what the popular media tells them, you are ignorant in regard to this matter. When the ice formed down there this year there was very little current and the consistency in the ice was very uniform. By the time we got down there Sunday morning there was a solid 7 inches in all areas (obviously besides the 20 feet leading to open water). I have a deep respect for the Mississippi River and would not venture onto unsafe ice. The fact that so many people get scared when they see open water adjacent to "unsafe ice" is just fine with me--it keeps the riff raff off and means more fish for us!

SA/wdw

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Couldn't have said it better myself Ado. We had a good time out there until the dam conspiracy kicked in. Never can be too careful but the "chances" of hitting a weak spot when everything else is 7"+, while checking the ice every few feet out there is slim to none. If we did fall through, no one would have to put their life in danger trying to rescue me, I have accepted the fact it would be a recovery. crazy.gif

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I have seen that picture in a couple of different places now. Does anyone know who they are and where it is. Just wondering. By the way I have fished for several years below the St. Cloud dam. I have never seen anyone break off and float down or fall thru the ice. It all boils down to common sense.

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