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I have a question about tip up fishing for Pike on Red. I have read some of the past posts about pike and it seems that large suckers (8 inches or so) and quick strike rigs work best. My question is how far up or down the water column seems to work the best? A foot off the bottom, 3-4 feet, etc. What is the general concencous as to what works best on Red? I'll be fishing Red in a couple of weeks (16th & 17th) out of Morts for some slabs with my sons and my dad, but would love to tie into a gator or two also. Thanks in advance!

~piker

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I like to put the bait in the middle of the water column on Red. If you think about it the worst case is you are in seventeen feet of water, halfway up is eight and a half feet from the bottom. As we sit at out computers look up at the ceiling...I would bet a pike will both notice and travel that far to get an easy meal. Plus I think this helps to put the bait in both the pikes strike range and area of attention no matter what level the fish is suspended at. If the pike comes in hugging the bottom they will notice it, and if they come in right under the ice they will notice it. It's a numbers game so play it for the odds.

On other lakes I will play this different according to baitfish and structure, but Red they are cruising. The bait is the only element that will stop them and get em looking.

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Thanks for the suggestion Jon. I'll give it a try and let you know how I made out.

~piker

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I will be up the 10/11/12th looking for some super tankers, I'll let ya know how I do.

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I will be up the 10/11/12th looking for some super tankers, I'll let ya know how I do.


I will be up there on the 10th and 11th, what are you driving out there and where are you going out of?

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I go out of the Hillmans road, it goes to fish! You can't miss me; Maroon Toyota with Fishing Minnesota Logos down the side and a bunch of other logos from Thorne Bros, Gloomis etc.

Anybody is welcome to stop by and shoot the breeze, I like to hear myself talk anyways. laugh.gif

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  • 2 weeks later...

Stupid fish!

Only caught one about 38", maybe next time. wink.gif

I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, bad judgment call after the cold snap...I knew better. Guys out deep picked up some nice fish, in fact I think one of KellyP's groups picked up two trophy class fish.

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Jon,

How do you rig your tip ups for big pike? As of now, I have four tip ups and they all have about 50 yards of 30lb braided nylon line which I tie directly to a quick strike rig. I'm guessing that's not enough line if I were to hook into a big fish.

The quick strike rigs I use are just a leader, single treble hook and a spinner. Should I be using one with two trebles?

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I would rig up with a full spool of line first. If you happen to be caught off gaurd and don't notice the flag the pike will strip that spool clean pretty quick.

I use a thirty or fifty lb. black braid, the stuff our fathers and grandfathers used. It still seems to be the best line for tip ups I have used.Then I tie off to a quick strike rig that has two smaller sized treble hooks. The quick strike is a wire leader made from 50lb 7 strand wire and a loop on the end with a slide so you can adjust the distance between the hooks. Thorne Bros have a good rig that I like to use. I like to go with two hooks for hooking ratios and you can use the rig to force the bait to swim upward or swim downward by how you hook it up. This make a big differance in how "active" your bait appears to a fish.

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I'm a little new with the tip ups, but what are quick strike rigs. Do you know where I can get them?

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Here is a pic of a quick strike rig. I see that you are in Blaine so just run over to Thorne Bros. in Fridley and pic one up.

quickstrikerig8mp.jpg

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Jon,

Should I hook shiners and suckers differently? With the single treble, I usually just hook the skin on a sucker's back. For a shiner, I put it through the back just in front of the dorsal fin.

With two treble hooks, where should I hook either bait to get the most swimming action? I used to use quick strikes with two trebles, but it seems like too much hardware hanging from the minnow.

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That is why I like quick strike with smaller trebles, the big ones are to much weight in the sucker and hinders its movement.

As far as single hooking bait I only do this with circle hooks because I don't want to chance gut hooking a fish.

When I hook baits I like to insert the hook at the base of the dorsal on one side of the backbone and push the hook forward and under that tough stuff under the dorsal and bring the point of the hook back out at the base of other side of the dorsal on the front end, I do this with all baits. What this will do for you is give you a good solid rig, doesn't hinder the bait or kill it, points the hook in the right direction for those lighter bites( yes pike will bite soft),and the dorsal fin will stand up making the bait look more "defensive" like a perch when you remove the hook, and the dorsal fin will camoflauge the hook a little.

For a quick strike I will bend one of the trebles straight down and thread the barb under the the dorsal fin pointing the other two hooks back close to the body then the other hook ot "tag end" I will hook in the lower lip and let that one hang down and point back also.

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I figured that was a little intense. smile.gif I will see if I can draw something up and post it. Hope you all like stick men and stick fish. grin.gif

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