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I was visiting a different site when I came across some interesting reading. It seems as though the WI. DNR used a "sting" type operation to catch boat owners who were takeing money for the shared expenses of a fishing trip on lake Michigan. Several boat owners were fined in the Two Rivers area. It seems that ANY money taken for gas, bait, tackle, and even accepting a sandwich, can be an illegal act. So if a group of friends are out fishing in one man's boat, and the costs of the trip are split, the owner/Captain has just broke the law. How stupid!! I remind you that I only read about this and do not have "first hand" info, but I assume it to be true. In one of the cases, the boat owner, after takeing out some people(I don't think he knew them) was slipped some money for expenses. After seeing how much he was given, he tryed to return it. Too late....Busted! BTW, It sounded like one of the female officers was caught putting down bait on a hunter's deer stand last year when baiting deer was illegal. She was caught via Trail Cam. This is the second time I've heard of wardens doing this. I just added that in, my concern is about illegal cost splitting. I think the DNR could find better things to consume thier time with.... PS: Sgt. Rock, was that you asking the question about the busts?

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CIBL, I saw the article in the WI Outdoor News. It appears that it was a case of illegal charters without the proper licenses. The information is then turned over to the USCG for enforcement action. The Coast Guard takes these violations very seriously because charter operators carry the most precious of cargo, human life! This was not a case of sharing expenses! It was a case of operating in violation of state and federal law. I have included a copy of the article which appeared in the Dec. 5 issue of the WI. Outdoor News.

By Dean Bortz
Editor
Two Rivers, Wis. — Undercover conservation wardens posing as Great Lakes charter boat clients caught five unlicensed boat owners with illegally accepting money for guiding fishermen on Lake Michigan.
Two other men who served as “first mates” were cited for lesser violations.
In all, the wardens wrote nine citations to seven men from five boats working out of the Two Rivers harbor, according to DNR warden Ryan Volenberg.
All seven defendants pleaded guilty and either paid their fines, or made arrangements to pay their fines, with Manitowoc County District Attorney Mark Rohr last month. Their fines totaled $4,191.50. None of these cases went to trial.
The main violation was chartering without a license (guiding without a sport-trolling license on outlying waters), according to Volenberg. That charge carries a $617 fine, of which $100 covers restitution for the sport-trolling license. The defendants, charges, and fines are as follows:
• Thomas F. Schroeder, 64, North Fond du Lac: two counts of chartering without a license, and one count of being party to overbagging. Schroeder was fined $617 for each of the first two charges, and $218.50 for the third charge, for a total of $1,425.50;
• Gary J. Mohr, 56, Wyocena: one charge of being party to the violation of failure to release a foul-hooked fish (on Schroeder’s boat), fined $198;
• John J. Gilbert, 68, Two Rivers: one count of chartering without a license, fined $617;
• Peter D. Tadych, 69, Van Dyne: one count of chartering without a license, fined $617;
• Keith A. Welnicke, 33, Two Rivers: one count of chartering without a license, fined $517 (Welnicke received a reduced fine in this case);
• Glen P. Kappelman, 28, Two Rivers: chartering without a license, fined $617;
• Keith A. Mosler, 36, Two Rivers: party to the violation of chartering without a license, served as a first mate, fined $300.
Volenberg and DNR regional investigator Steve Daye, of Green Bay, followed up on complaints of illegal chartering operations, then brought in wardens from outside of the area to serve as clients for Schroeder on the first outing.
“We started out with the one boat where we had received numerous complaints,” Volenberg said. “After we got on his boat, it was clear that he was connected with other individuals out of that marina who were doing the same thing. So, we talked to him about setting up multiple charters. On the next trip, four boats came out of that marina, including Schroeder.”
The fifth boat and its operator and first mate were not connected with Schroeder’s operation, but were caught during the same investigation.
Legitimate charter captains must have two licenses — the U.S. Coast Guard Great Lakes captain’s license, and the state’s Great Lakes sport-trolling guiding license. The state license costs $100. While the DNR can cite illegal operators for not having a state license, state wardens can’t pinch the operators for not have the U.S. Coast Guard license — that information is turned over to the U.S. Coast Guard for enforcement.
“The U.S. Coast Guard can also take enforcement action, but usually, on first offenses, the Coast Guard will put them on warning,” Volenberg said. “Then, usually on a second offense, the U.S. Coast Guard steps in. Back in 1999, a Kewaunee man was caught for a second time and was fined $10,000. The Coast Guard takes it very seriously if they don’t heed a warning.
“These are considered serious violations, as many of the unlicensed charters were also lacking the U.S. Coast Guard captain’s licenses, which are required for the safety of the customers. Also, these unlicensed captains were taking business away from legitimate captains who had invested a lot of money and time in obtaining the required state and federal licenses.”
Fully licensed charter boat captains must maintain insurances, undergo vessel safety checks, have minimum safety equipment, make daily fish catch reports, and are subject to random drug testing.
“Licensed captains are going to be the safest operators,” Volenberg said. “They have experience on the water. Lake Michigan can be a dangerous place. They have safe boats and know how to operate them. The No. 1 reason we require the license is to make sure that charter captains are operating safely on the Great Lakes. Anglers should ask to see their licenses before boarding. You shouldn’t feel bad about asking to see a license. Legitimate captains will have their licenses, and have them listed on their brochures. They will be happy to show their license.”
Volenberg said most of the illegal operators either don’t want to spend the money to take the U.S. Coast Guard test, or can’t pass the test.
“That test is often failed. It is very difficult and very in-depth. It costs a lot of money to go through the procedure,” he said. “So most of the guys who operate in violation end up not having met either (federal or state) of the requirements.”
The investigation began shortly after Volenberg arrived at his new post in Two Rivers in January. He began working off of complaints and a file from retired warden Jim Young. Volenberg and Daye began planning the sting operation in March.
“With the information we had, we knew where these individuals kept their boats, how to approach them, and we brought in wardens from outside the area to see if they could get onto the boats. That portion started in August, when the fishing picked up.”
Volenberg expects similar charges to be filed on two other individuals, one from Two Rivers and one from Kewaunee, in December or January. The Kewaunee individual was caught for a third offense.
Volenberg said the daily fish/catch reports that are required from licensed captains are one way for the DNR to gauge harvest and determine subsequent stocking levels of trout and salmon. Catches not reported by illegitimate operators can negatively impact fish management efforts on the Great Lakes.

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CIBL, here is another reason not to use an unlicensed charter. Your trip may cost you another $25,000.00.

UNITED STATES COAST GUARD
> DEAR PRUDENT MARINE ENTHUSIAST:
> THIS LETTER IS INTENDED TO FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH THE LAWS REGARDING
> CHARTERING OR OPERATING A VESSEL FOR HIRE.
> SOUTH CAROLINA OFFERS UNLIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO ENJOY ACTIVITIES ON THE
> WATER AND CAN LEAVE YOU WITH MANY HAPPY MEMORIES WHEN SAFELY DONE.
> HOWEVER, MUCH LIKE THE FAMOUS EXPRESSION, "LET THE BUYER BEWARE" COVERS
> THE PITFALLS OF MAKING A NEW PURCHASE, A NEW EXPRESSION, "LET THE MARINE
> ENTHUSIAST BEWARE" APPLIES TO THE BOATING PUBLIC. YOU SHOULD BE AWARE THAT
> CHARTER FISHING BOATS MUST HAVE A LICENSED OPERATOR. EXCURSION BOATS MUST
> HAVE A LICENSED OPERATOR. SCUBA DIVING PLATFORM BOATS MUST HAVE A LICENSED
> OPERATOR. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU ARE BEING CHARGED IN ANY; WAY FOR THE
> SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE VESSEL, THEN THE OPERATOR OF THE VESSEL MUST HAVE
> A COAST GUARD LICENSE.
> THE ONLY WAY TO ENSURE THE OPERATOR HAS A LICENSE IS TO SEE IT. THE
> OPERATOR IS REQUIRED TO HAVE IT WITH HIM JUST LIKE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO
> HAVE YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH YOU WHEN OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE. THE
> LICENSE WILL EXPLAIN THE SIZE AND TYPE OF VESSEL THE OPERATOR CAN DRIVE
> AND THE WATERS ON WHICH HE OR SHE IS AUTHORIZED TO OPERATE. PLEASE PROTECT
> YOURSELF AND MAKE SURE YOUR SEE A LICENSE BEFORE THE VESSEL LEAVES THE
> PIER. MOST OPERATORS POST THEIR LICENSE ON THE VESSEL NEAR THE OPERATING
> STATION. IF THE LICENSE IS NOT POSTED, THEN ASK TO SEE IT.
> THE VESSEL OPERATOR IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN BOATING SAFETY. THE
> OPERATOR CONTROLS THE SPEED AND DIRECTION OF THE VESSEL OR WHETHER THE
> VESSEL GETS UNDERWAY AT ALL. THIS INDIVIDUAL MUST HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND
> TRAINING NECESSARY TO MANAGE NORMAL OPERATIONS AND UNFORESEEN
> CIRCUMSTANCES. BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS POSITION IN GUARANTEEING
> THE SAFETY OF THE PAYING PUBLIC, THE U.S. COAST GUARD PROHIBITS PERSONS
> FROM SCHEDULING, CHARTERING, OR ARRANGING PASSENGER FOR HIRE TRIPS ON U.S.
> NAVIGABLE WATERS ON VESSELS THAT ARE OPERATED BY UNLICENSED INDIVIDUALS.
> BOTH THE CHARTERER AND THE VESSEL OPERATOR COULD BE SUBJECT TO A $25,000
> CIVIL PENALTY. ADDITIONALLY, LICENSED PERSONNEL IN VIOLATION OF THESE LAWS
> MAY HAVE THEIR LICENSES SUSPENDED OR REVOKED.
> PLEASE CALL MY INVESTIGATIONS DEPARTMENT AT (843) 724-7690 IF YOU HAVE ANY
> QUESTIONS.
> SINCERELY,
> F.J. STURM, COMMANDER U.S. COAST GUARD, OFFICER IN CHARGE, MARINE
> INSPECTION
>
>

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To have it explained like that is one thing, but I have listened to both sides of the story. The individuals that were involved routinely converse. To hear thier side of the story you may think differently. Should it be illegal to help pay for gas, food, bait, etc.? Or any type of compensation for that matter?Here are some of thier statements._______________________________________________________________________________________
Bork I have a feeling you don't know how some of these arrests went down. Imagine that you owned a 25 footer parked in the marina and one of the other boat owners had three people goin out with him but his boat was broken that morning. He asks if they can ride with you since your going out alone and your boat is warmed up. The morning goes great and the fish god rewards you for your kind deed. Here's the crooked part though. These characters have one of them pass you some gas money at the dock at the end of the day. A few new bills palmed to you on the farewell handshake. They all quickly depart. Once you've opened your hand and realize they left you three hunderd bucks you proceed to catch up to say you can't accept this kinda monet for gas but, ooops they throw the cuffs on you. What do you think, did you just get bamboozleed by a government agency. I can't beleive you'd be has happy about this if it was you getting shafted. Theres been alot less ***** aboard my boat since this went down on a friend of mine. ____________________________________________

Time to clear the air!-Bork-yes you can get a fine for accepting gas money!I would know because i was ont of the guys that got busted.I accepted $40 for gas to help off set the cost of gas.The DNR rules say"you cant accept any compensation"at all-this means when me a a few buddys went out one guy brang subs with him and when i asked the warden about it he said i cant accept anything!The Coast guard laws say that"you CAN accept food, money,fuel-anything needed for a days outting"My fine was reduced to $399-and with all the added costs the toatle was $517.If i would have had the money to fight it i would have!A member of the Coast Guard from the sturgon Bay office called me and told me"it would be in my best intrest NOT to fight the charges or they would seek max.penalties if i did fight it.The fine was reduced because i was only asking for gas-it really sucks.One guy with the same first name as me was a first mate on a boat and he was fined for not having a sport trolling lien.The DNR has the right to do what they want when they want with no fear of opposition-why because they swing such a big stick they make people too affraid to take them on.and they increase the fines if you do-Keith ____________________________________________
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The way the law reads is that if you accept valuable consideration you need to have a captains license. I really doubt that the DNR or the USCG is running around trying to entrap innocent people.

Sounds reminiscent of Nixons "I am not a crook" or Clintons "I did not have sexual relations with that woman".

The article states that the DNR was responding to numerous complaints. These guys have now pretty well shot there chances of ever getting a captains license from the USCG.

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      +2349128106243ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD OCCULT IS A SACRED FRATERNITY WITH A GRAND LODGE TEMPLE SITUATED IN G.R.A PHASE 2 PORT HARCOURT NIGERIA, OUR NUMBER ONE OBLIGATION IS TO MAKE EVERY INITIATE MEMBER HERE RICH AND FAMOUS IN OTHER RISE THE POWERS OF GUARDIANS OF AGE+. +2349128106243       SEARCHING ON HOW TO JOIN THE ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD MONEY RITUAL OCCULT IS NOT THE PROBLEM BUT MAKE SURE YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT VERY WELL BEFORE REACHING US HERE BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAS THE HEART TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO BECOME ONE OF US HERE, BUT IF YOU THINK YOU'RE SERIOUS MINDED AND READY TO RUN THE SPIRITUAL RACE OF LIFE IN OTHER TO ACQUIRE ALL YOU NEED HERE ON EARTH CONTACT SPIRITUAL GRANDMASTER NOW, FOR INQUIRY       +2349128106243       +2349128106243 OFTEN MANY HAS VENTURED INTO SPIRITUAL MEANS OF ACQUIRING LUXURY BUT ONLY FEW GET TO THE PEAK WHEN IT COMES TO SPIRITUAL WEALTH & LUXURY NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY INFECTED OR UNWORHTY BUT IT’S ON CLEARER VIEW TO THE HUMAN WORLD NOW TO ACTUALLY KNOW THAT IT TAKES A GREAT SACRIFICE AND OFFERING TO PIERCE THE HEART OF THE SPIRITUAL WORLD IN ORDER TO MAKE A RFEQUEST NOT JUST TO MAKE A REQUEST BUT TO GET ANSWERS AND POSITIVE POSITIVE RESPONSE FOR THE SPIRITUAL GUARDIANS OF AGE. WE THE INITIATE MEMBERS OF ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GAIN A SPIRITUAL CLOSE GUARDED SECRET OF ACQUIRING WEALTH POWER &PROTECTION FOR THE GUARDIANS OF AGE THROUGH THE ORDERS OF THE TEMPLE GRANDMASTER AND OTHER SPIRITUAL LEADERS OF THE GRAND LODGE TEMPLE.        +2349128106243 WE KNOW VERY WELL THAT EVERYONE THINKS THEY HAVE ALL IT TAKES TO BE RICH AND FAMOUS NOT MINDING THE FACT THAT ONLY FEW HAS THE ABILITY AND GRACE TO BE WEALTHY, BECAUSE IF MAKING WEALTH WAS THAT EASY EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WEALTHY BY NOW. MAKING ENQUIRIES TO JOIN US HERE MIGHT BE OPEN FOR EVERYONE BUT NOT EVERYONE IS ACCEPTED AT THE END OF THE DAY. ZAHADURAH OCCULT IS NOT FOR THE RICH OR POOR BUT FOR THE “DESTINED TO BE RICH” IT DOESN’T MATTER WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM OR WHO YOU THINK YOU’RE, ONCE YOUR DESTINY MATCHES THE SPIRITUAL HEART OF THIS OCCULT YOU’RE CERTAIN TO BE ACCEPTED AND TRANSDFORMED FROM POOR TO RICH OR RICH TO RICHER & POWERFUL. ALL ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD INITIATE MEMBERS ARE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES LIFE WORTH LIVING NO MATTER HOW EXPENSIVE IT MIGHT BE CARS HOUSES LUXURIOUS LIFE BUT ONE THING YOU MUST PUT FIRST IS COURAGE AND BRAVERY BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE KEYS TO UNLOCK TO ONES FORTUNE, AND BEFORE ANY MAN/WOMAN CAN BE ACCEPTED HERE HE OR SHE IS EXPECTED TO HAVE MADE UP HIS OR HER MIND KNOWING THE TASK AHEAD, THOUGH WE DO NOT USE HUMAN BLOOD FOR SACRIFICE BUT DO NOT BE DECEIVED; WE USE ANIMAL BLOOD TO PLEASE THE LORD GUARDIANS OF AGE TO ACCEPT YOU AFTER WHICH YOU’LL BE ENDOWED WITH RICHES AND LUXURY BUT KNOW THAT THERE’S A GRAND PRIZE TO PAY WHICH IS YOU OFFERING YOUR SOUL TO THE LORD LUCIFER AT CERTAIN STAGE {85YRS}       ………… NOTHING ELSE WILL BE REQUIRED UNTIL YOUR LAST SACRIFICIAL RITE AND MONEY WILL NOT BE YOUR PROBLEM AGAIN UNTIL YOU DIE. THERE 7 SACRED RULES GUIDING THIS SACRED OCCULT WHICH MAKES IT EASY AND THE BEST FRATERNITY TO BELONG, THIS RULES CAN ONLY BE DISCLOSED TO AN ALREADY INITIATED MEMBER, STRICT MEASURES ARE APPLIED IN TERMS OF KEEPING THE SECRETS OF THIS GREAT OCCULT WHICH INSTANT DEATH, SO IF YOU KNOW YOU CAN’T KEEP SHUT WHEN THE CLOSE GUARDED SECRETS ARE BEEN GIVING TO YOU DURING YOUR INITIATION RITUAL; DO YOURSELF GOOD BY STAYING AWAY OTHER THAN BRINGING CALAMITY UPON YOURSELF AND HOUSEHOLD. THE ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD WAS FOUNDED IN INDIA BY AFRICAN BROTHERS WHO TOOK DECISION TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF NATURE IN OTHER FOR LIFE TO BE EASY IN THE EARLY DAYS OF ALLAQUATHAMIN, THERE BY MAKING THE HOME OF THE LORD ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD TO BE IN AFRICA, WE HAVE OUR TEMPLES HERE IN AFRICA OF WHICH THE GRAND LODGE TEMPLE HQ IS SITUATED IN A HIDDEN LOCATION IN PORT HARCOURT RIVER'S STATE NIGERIA.       MANY INDIVIDUALS HAS TAKEN THE RISK OF ATTEMPTING #I_WANT_TO_JOIN_ILLUMINATI #I_WANT-TO-JOIN_THE_FREE_MASONS #I_WANT_TO_JOIN_ODD_FELLOWS AND MANY OTHER SEARCH REQUESTS; THOUGH THERE’RE OTHER FRATERNITIES LIKE MENTIONED ABOVE BUT THE BAD NEWS IS YOU CAN NEVER BE LINKED TO ANY OF THIS OCCULTS BY ANYONE UNLESS THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU FALSE HOPES THEREBY EXTORTING FROM YOU....+2349128106243.
    • zahadurahtemple
      +2349128106243ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD OCCULT IS A SACRED FRATERNITY WITH A GRAND LODGE TEMPLE SITUATED IN G.R.A PHASE 2 PORT HARCOURT NIGERIA, OUR NUMBER ONE OBLIGATION IS TO MAKE EVERY INITIATE MEMBER HERE RICH AND FAMOUS IN OTHER RISE THE POWERS OF GUARDIANS OF AGE+. +2349128106243       SEARCHING ON HOW TO JOIN THE ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD MONEY RITUAL OCCULT IS NOT THE PROBLEM BUT MAKE SURE YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT VERY WELL BEFORE REACHING US HERE BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAS THE HEART TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO BECOME ONE OF US HERE, BUT IF YOU THINK YOU'RE SERIOUS MINDED AND READY TO RUN THE SPIRITUAL RACE OF LIFE IN OTHER TO ACQUIRE ALL YOU NEED HERE ON EARTH CONTACT SPIRITUAL GRANDMASTER NOW, FOR INQUIRY       +2349128106243       +2349128106243 OFTEN MANY HAS VENTURED INTO SPIRITUAL MEANS OF ACQUIRING LUXURY BUT ONLY FEW GET TO THE PEAK WHEN IT COMES TO SPIRITUAL WEALTH & LUXURY NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY INFECTED OR UNWORHTY BUT IT’S ON CLEARER VIEW TO THE HUMAN WORLD NOW TO ACTUALLY KNOW THAT IT TAKES A GREAT SACRIFICE AND OFFERING TO PIERCE THE HEART OF THE SPIRITUAL WORLD IN ORDER TO MAKE A RFEQUEST NOT JUST TO MAKE A REQUEST BUT TO GET ANSWERS AND POSITIVE POSITIVE RESPONSE FOR THE SPIRITUAL GUARDIANS OF AGE. WE THE INITIATE MEMBERS OF ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GAIN A SPIRITUAL CLOSE GUARDED SECRET OF ACQUIRING WEALTH POWER &PROTECTION FOR THE GUARDIANS OF AGE THROUGH THE ORDERS OF THE TEMPLE GRANDMASTER AND OTHER SPIRITUAL LEADERS OF THE GRAND LODGE TEMPLE.        +2349128106243 WE KNOW VERY WELL THAT EVERYONE THINKS THEY HAVE ALL IT TAKES TO BE RICH AND FAMOUS NOT MINDING THE FACT THAT ONLY FEW HAS THE ABILITY AND GRACE TO BE WEALTHY, BECAUSE IF MAKING WEALTH WAS THAT EASY EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WEALTHY BY NOW. MAKING ENQUIRIES TO JOIN US HERE MIGHT BE OPEN FOR EVERYONE BUT NOT EVERYONE IS ACCEPTED AT THE END OF THE DAY. ZAHADURAH OCCULT IS NOT FOR THE RICH OR POOR BUT FOR THE “DESTINED TO BE RICH” IT DOESN’T MATTER WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM OR WHO YOU THINK YOU’RE, ONCE YOUR DESTINY MATCHES THE SPIRITUAL HEART OF THIS OCCULT YOU’RE CERTAIN TO BE ACCEPTED AND TRANSDFORMED FROM POOR TO RICH OR RICH TO RICHER & POWERFUL. ALL ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD INITIATE MEMBERS ARE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES LIFE WORTH LIVING NO MATTER HOW EXPENSIVE IT MIGHT BE CARS HOUSES LUXURIOUS LIFE BUT ONE THING YOU MUST PUT FIRST IS COURAGE AND BRAVERY BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE KEYS TO UNLOCK TO ONES FORTUNE, AND BEFORE ANY MAN/WOMAN CAN BE ACCEPTED HERE HE OR SHE IS EXPECTED TO HAVE MADE UP HIS OR HER MIND KNOWING THE TASK AHEAD, THOUGH WE DO NOT USE HUMAN BLOOD FOR SACRIFICE BUT DO NOT BE DECEIVED; WE USE ANIMAL BLOOD TO PLEASE THE LORD GUARDIANS OF AGE TO ACCEPT YOU AFTER WHICH YOU’LL BE ENDOWED WITH RICHES AND LUXURY BUT KNOW THAT THERE’S A GRAND PRIZE TO PAY WHICH IS YOU OFFERING YOUR SOUL TO THE LORD LUCIFER AT CERTAIN STAGE {85YRS}       ………… NOTHING ELSE WILL BE REQUIRED UNTIL YOUR LAST SACRIFICIAL RITE AND MONEY WILL NOT BE YOUR PROBLEM AGAIN UNTIL YOU DIE. THERE 7 SACRED RULES GUIDING THIS SACRED OCCULT WHICH MAKES IT EASY AND THE BEST FRATERNITY TO BELONG, THIS RULES CAN ONLY BE DISCLOSED TO AN ALREADY INITIATED MEMBER, STRICT MEASURES ARE APPLIED IN TERMS OF KEEPING THE SECRETS OF THIS GREAT OCCULT WHICH INSTANT DEATH, SO IF YOU KNOW YOU CAN’T KEEP SHUT WHEN THE CLOSE GUARDED SECRETS ARE BEEN GIVING TO YOU DURING YOUR INITIATION RITUAL; DO YOURSELF GOOD BY STAYING AWAY OTHER THAN BRINGING CALAMITY UPON YOURSELF AND HOUSEHOLD. THE ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD WAS FOUNDED IN INDIA BY AFRICAN BROTHERS WHO TOOK DECISION TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF NATURE IN OTHER FOR LIFE TO BE EASY IN THE EARLY DAYS OF ALLAQUATHAMIN, THERE BY MAKING THE HOME OF THE LORD ZAHADURAH BROTHERHOOD TO BE IN AFRICA, WE HAVE OUR TEMPLES HERE IN AFRICA OF WHICH THE GRAND LODGE TEMPLE HQ IS SITUATED IN A HIDDEN LOCATION IN PORT HARCOURT RIVER'S STATE NIGERIA.       MANY INDIVIDUALS HAS TAKEN THE RISK OF ATTEMPTING #I_WANT_TO_JOIN_ILLUMINATI #I_WANT-TO-JOIN_THE_FREE_MASONS #I_WANT_TO_JOIN_ODD_FELLOWS AND MANY OTHER SEARCH REQUESTS; THOUGH THERE’RE OTHER FRATERNITIES LIKE MENTIONED ABOVE BUT THE BAD NEWS IS YOU CAN NEVER BE LINKED TO ANY OF THIS OCCULTS BY ANYONE UNLESS THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU FALSE HOPES THEREBY EXTORTING FROM YOU....+2349128106243.
    • smurfy
      he ate pine needles and pine cones raw!!!!!!!!!
    • gimruis
      No idea who that is.  Had to look it up though.  Born in 1911 and died in 1975.  That explains why I've never heard of him.
    • smurfy
      Just old leather straps!!🤣🤣apparently you seem to have no problem with all the preservatives in our foods today. I know you ain't no Euiel Gibbons.  
    • JerkinLips
      Fished Tuesday-Thursday.  Caught a lot of 9-12 inch walleyes.  The only walleyes I caught over 12 inches were two 13 inchers and the pictured 22 inch.  Don't know where the quality eaters went.  Best action was 11am-4pm.  The walleyes were stuck on the bottom so I set my bobber so the minnow could just reach the bottom.  Then I would occasionally raise it up to entice them to bite.  Got numerous bites as I was setting the depth.  Neither the Y-store nor Vermilion Fuel & Food had rainbows so I settled on pike suckers and chubs.  Didn't catch a walleye on pike suckers the first morning so I just stuck with the chubs the rest of the trip.   Good luck fishing and enjoy the lake.  
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