manure spill

[only-eyes]

has any one fished the sauk after the 100,000 gallons of manure spilled into mill creek (rockville part) which empties into the sauk. biologists said it would be a few days before the effects are seen on the fish. I guess manure or the bacteria in manure severely depleats the oxygen level in the water, and could kill a lot of fish. hopefully its not as bad as the times makes it out to be. Good Luck on the lake, the panfish are still hitting on the chain pretty decent.

[joshb]

how in the heck did that happen?, where is mill creek?, is that upstream from the horshoe chain or downstream?.

[Skeets]

Downstream, it is near Rockville.

Very sad indeed, hope they got it cleaned up as best as possible.

[russ]

Slicker, are you serious or just that ignorant? WOW!

[only-eyes]

city slicker that is out of line, accidents happen. the farmers were actually praised by authorities for their fast action containing the spill.

[Borch]

Yeah I remember several years back when Golden Plump had an ammonia leak that emptied into the river. The water was very low and it killed everything for several miles downstream. That was very sad.

Hopefully this will not have as negative of effect.

[joshb]

so can anyone fill me in on how it happened?.

[Guest]

Broken pipeline/valve in a feedlot. High praise to the Rockville fire department for their early work containing the spill, and to the Rockville community at large for pitching in and helping with the cleanup. Ther were a whole lot of people ankle deep in sh-- shoveling and pumping to clean up that mess.

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Fitchwolf

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[City_Slicker]

The Goverment will probly give them a check for the loss of the manure.

[Guest]

Then you're in luck, slicker...you'll make a fortune from the crap you're spewing on this topic....

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Fitchwolf

[jt24]

Thats why his name is city slicker. I have a hog farm and have never had a manure spill but accidents happen. Its the guys that deliberatly unload manure right into the river or tile line that give us guys bad names.

[russ]

Slicker, you're really not as ignorant as you make yourself out to be. Some "manure" does have monetary value that the producers actually do get paid for. Albeit it's not usually delivered via waterway.

[City_Slicker]

I just like to cause trouble. Farmers get away with murder. They can destroy the land and waters with the chemicals spray on their crops and feed to their animals. And if they have a bad crop the goverment will just give them a check. I wish I got a check when I my company had a bad year.

[Mn Walleye 1976]

City,
If it weren't for the farmers you wouldn't see a lot of the food that you put on your table.

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Bob

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[jlm]

CitySlicker-
I guess I would have to say that this is not a place to bash people, including farmers. Second thing: Give us your name and address and we will begin to send you checks so you can stop feeling sorry for yourself. Third thing, if farming is so great, why don't you take that up as a business. Now, back to fishing!

[only-eyes]

slicker what kind of company does a student have?

[wastewaterguru]

Wow, what an example slicker is setting for the city dwellers. It is unfortunate that this manure spill was in an environmentally sensitive area. It is also unfortunate that people don't understand the reasoning and purpose of farming subsidies. I suppose that city boy thinks that his poop don't stink.....

Do you think he knows why the manure is stored in a tank??

Do you think he knows what the final destination of the manure is??

Well I'll tell ya anyway.......it is stored and landspread as fertilizer. Certain components to some degree end up in the rainwater runoff and in the creeks and rivers anyway.

It's not the organic matter depleting the local DO levels that causes long term problems. The minerals in the manure are the main concern with both the landspreading and the occasional spills. Phosporous in particular is a concern for its ability to promote algae growth. This algae eventually dies and decomposes.....which continues depleting oxygen.

If you want to try to put tougher restrictions on the farmers.......good luck. They are pretty strict already, and the margins for farmers are pretty small. If farming was that attractive as a career, then why aren't there more farmers. I for one am not willing to pay for additional enforcement through raised taxes and higher meat and produce costs. In general, it appears that today's laws regarding manure landspreading(and yes the city boys sludge is included in modern landspreading programs)are adequate and are working to clean up surface waters in the US.

Can we do more?

Sure.....but then you have to ask who is going to pay for it.

[IceHawk]

The Hansens are real respected farmers in the area and I feel they the voulenteers and the fire dept did a excellent job of takeing care of the spill. I was readinfg the paper tonight and they said only a handfull of fish died, mostly carp and suckers. I feel we should comend the efforts of the people rather then critisize them. Accidents happen to people everyday so there is no reason to get down on anyone.

[only-eyes]

well said icehawk, i know several family members and its wrong for people to judge them based on a farm accident. The paper stated everybody did an excellent job in containing what they could.

[doubleUcubed]

As someone who works directly and indirectly with these types of incidents I can say it sounds like everyone involved did as much as possible to minimize the impacts of the release. As WWguru has stated there are pretty strict regulations regarding the storage and application rates of the different types of manure/fertilizer. It doesn't matter if the source is turkey, chicken, hog, sheep, dairy, cattle, city/municipal, etc. it is all regulated. Accidents do and will happen, an updated and effective Release/Response Plan is essential in minimizing the impacts any release may have on the environment. Just my $.02 worth.