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iceboy16

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iceboy16

i've been goin up to LOW for the last 4 years and have yet to get on some nice keeper fish. We got up in the end of feb. and end of march. we usually fish in the 30 - 34 ft depth and we have also tried in shallower. We have no problem catchin fish but it is rare to get one over 13"...any suggestions? <P>have fun and good luck!

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Wiskers

Well I don't know what to tell you other than keep trying.... If there was a secret trick, we would all be in the record books.. lol...Thats why its called fishing not catching... :-)<P>You might want to go off in an area where the traffic is minimal. I always look on here first then go where I want to fish and find the resort houses, see if they are in the area I thought was going to be good and then stay in the same depth but move away from the crouds.. The bigger fish did not get big by being stupid.. All that drilling and noise can make them take a long route to feeding areas.<P>Also try some diffent jig setups. perhaps minnow chunks instead of whole minnows. jig jig jig. Get ahold of a topigraphical map so you know where the depth change and go from there.. look for the changes under your house. If you have different depths in the same house your onto a hot spot. <P>Walleyes will follow the slightest contours in the bottom kinda like deer trails. That is why some times one hole in a house will out fish others, that hole might be on one of those slight changes.<P>Good luck, and that is exactly what it is.<P><P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://wiskersguidingservice.com" TARGET=_blank>Wiskers Guiding Service</A><BR>Red River, Red Lake River & Minnesota River,for Channel Cats, Flatheads & Walleyes<BR>Crookston, MN<BR> [email protected]<P>218-280-0442

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Gofishleech

In my expirences on LOW, (which are limited)the bigger fish have been caught well off the bottom. Somtimes as high as 10ft but most often between 5 and 10. These fish would never have been known of without the use of a flasher.<P>I always go early or late in the year also, may have somting to do with it.<BR>Keep trying you are due!!

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iceboy16

thanx for the help... i will be goin up for a few days on the 27th, and hopefully my luck will change, i also hope to get on some of the big northern is the shallow water, any reports or anyone fished them up there before? we got a 43" a few years ago and it was a blast.<P>thanx for the help!

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Rip_Some_Lip

I am going the same weekend. We usually go out of Zipple Bay or Adrians. The people at Zipple are very good about telling you what they are getting them on and where. We have best luck shallower (20-25') in low light and +30' during day. Dont be afraid to fish well past dark, thats when we got our biggest fish last year.

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pj4

several post implied fishing higher for bigger fish. are the bigger fish swimming higher off bottom or rise to feed up there? how much higher off bottom should one try?

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fiskyknut

More than just luck comes into play when fishing for bigger fish. Though a person can luck into nice fish on this lake on occasion!<P>First off, fish areas where the big fish go at different times thru the season.<P>Don't fish areas where the little fish are most prevelant at times.<P>Fish when and where the bigger fish are most availiable.<P>Fish with a bigger lure/bait.<P>Fish a bit higher off bottom than what is considered standard up here by most.<P>Always bring your lure up when you see bait come in high on your flasher.<P>Lastly, keep trying!<P>fiskyknut<p>[This message has been edited by fiskyknut (edited 03-15-2004).]

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