Panfish ice line

[smalliehunter]

been using seaguar for all my summer fishing for a few years. Just started using there new ice line this year, and it's the bomb.  I've been using 2 and 4lb this year.  Good stuff, I highly recommend

Edited February 8, 2021 by smalliehunter

[whateverisbiting]

OK the last couple of posts have me thinking of another question.   Any special knot for light line?  I always try to do a palomar knot just because I think its easy and I like two loops through the eye.  But the eyes on some of these jigs sometimes is tough to double loop, though maybe that is not the case if I downsize the line?  If one loop through, I do what I was taught as the Stren knot I am sure there is another name for it, but one time through the eye, twist 5-8 times, come back though the bottom loop and pull tight.

[Wanderer]

8 minutes ago, whateverisbiting said:

OK the last couple of posts have me thinking of another question.   Any special knot for light line?  I always try to do a palomar knot just because I think its easy and I like two loops through the eye.  But the eyes on some of these jigs sometimes is tough to double loop, though maybe that is not the case if I downsize the line?  If one loop through, I do what I was taught as the Stren knot I am sure there is another name for it, but one time through the eye, twist 5-8 times, come back though the bottom loop and pull tight.

Sounds like the Stren knot is the clinch knot.

 

The Trilene knot is the improved clinch knot.  Once you get the tag end through the loop at the bottom, you double it back through that loop you just made.

 

The Palomar is usually the quickest and easiest along with being the strongest, but like you mention, it can really tough to get it done on those small eye jigs.  At that point I go with whatever clinch knot my eyes and dexterity allow!

[Tom Sawyer]

20 minutes ago, Wanderer said:

The Trilene knot is the improved clinch knot.  Once you get the tag end through the loop at the bottom, you double it back through that loop you just made.

Trilene knot starts by going thru eye twice,,,

[eyeguy 54]

I just use the clinch on ice jigs unless it has a big eye for line like on a spoon then the Trilene knot. 5 wraps on the clinch and 4 on the Trilene. Always wet it before the snug up. Never have tried the palomar. I would think it would be really tough to get the looped line through. 

Edited February 8, 2021 by eyeguy 54

[Wanderer]

30 minutes ago, Tom Sawyer said:

Trilene knot starts by going thru eye twice,,,

That’s why I’m NOT Pro Staff. 

 

Never did go through twice and probably never will on that one!

Edited February 8, 2021 by Wanderer

[eyeguy 54]

Been typing that Trilene for almost fifty years. Lol. Can do it while sleeping.

Edited February 8, 2021 by eyeguy 54

[Tom Sawyer]

I use the snell knot, keeps jigs horizontal. No need to worry about knot position on eye any longer. @Wanderer

Edited February 8, 2021 by Tom Sawyer

[eyeguy 54]

Snell knot on a 4mm! I would like to see a video of that.

[Rick G]

improved clinch on mono or floro...  Tied the trilene knot for a long time, had a few come undone over those yrs... never any problems after doing the one extra step to make the improved clinch

[whateverisbiting]

2 hours ago, Tom Sawyer said:

I use the snell knot

That's different I thought that was just for plain hooks?

[Rick G]

3 minutes ago, eyeguy 54 said:

Snell knot on a 4mm! I would like to see a video of that.

Tommy has good eyes and lots of dexterity in those little fingers

[eyeguy 54]

Just now, Rick G said:

Tommy has good eyes and lots of dexterity in those little fingers

I watched a video. Lotta work and looks like for a long shank. Knot for me

[Tom Sawyer]

58 minutes ago, whateverisbiting said:

That's different I thought that was just for plain hooks?

Not at all, works great. Not hard at all to master. 

Been tying snells on #8 hooks for years, a 4mm ice jig gap isn't much different. Give it a try

Edited February 8, 2021 by Tom Sawyer

[Tom Sawyer]

1 hour ago, eyeguy 54 said:

Snell knot on a 4mm! I would like to see a video of that.

Here's one from a friend of mine.

He is one of the best, in worldwide competitive ice angling, enjoy. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Lawrence+Luoma+snell+knot&oq=Lawrence+Luoma+snell+knot&aqs=chrome..69i57.16069j0j4&client=ms-android-sprint-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:71f18512,vid:luA84ssQPys,st:0

Edited February 8, 2021 by Tom Sawyer

[whateverisbiting]

Very cool Tom!

[eyeguy 54]

Won’t open. I see it’s Lawrence. That’s the video I watched. Nice vid but I will stick with the clinch for gills and crappies. Thx tho for another technique. 

Edited February 9, 2021 by eyeguy 54

[Wanderer]

Won’t open for me either.

[eyeguy 54]

1 minute ago, Wanderer said:

Won’t open for me either.

Google Lawrence Luoma  snell knot 

[Squirrelhawke]

I use a trilene knot on my jig's and a very small rapala knot on my pimples, buckshots and jigging raps

[Wanderer]

1 hour ago, eyeguy 54 said:

Google Lawrence Luoma  snell knot 

Ok.  Now, who’s eyes can I borrow to actually do it?

[eyeguy 54]

2 minutes ago, Wanderer said:

Ok.  Now, who’s eyes can I borrow to actually do it?

I have trifocals I could let you try . Squirrel I used to use the Trilene in small tungsten but switched to the clinch about three years ago and havnt switched back. It works sweet. 

[Tom Sawyer]

4 hours ago, Wanderer said:

Won’t open for me either.

 

Easy knot, works great

[Rick G]

Snell would work good if tying at home or in a comfy shack.... Might be a little tougher with cold, wet hands....or on a windy day though...I will give it a try next time I use a longer shank tungsten

[slipperybob]

On 2/8/2021 at 5:05 AM, Wanderer said:

So which one is your favorite @slipperybob?

 

My favorite is ASSO Micron3.  

It's not the strongest, but I like how it manages overall on my casting reel.  It lays well and avoids fluffing off the spool.  Then again, I can change my mind in the future if something else comes along and works better.

[eyeguy 54]

Casting reel?  Interesting. 

[Rick G]

1 hour ago, eyeguy 54 said:

Casting reel?  Interesting. 

Back in the late 90s I used a Shimano Curado 100 as my walleye jigging reel. This was back before anybody was concerned about line spin and such... It worked pretty darn good, desipie using a ice rod upside down...and fishing the spine of my rod vs. the belly...but didn't know anything about that back then either, so it didn't really matter    Hmmmmm, might have to look into a 50 size casting, and build a rod for it

[smurfy]

all i know is you guyz got me all twisted and knotted up talking all this line stuff!!! 

 

pretty interesting conversation though!!!!!

[Wanderer]

3 hours ago, eyeguy 54 said:

Casting reel?  Interesting. 

I’m still running a couple casting reel combos for ice.  Walleye/pike/lake trout set ups.  They honestly work best for set lines though.  Nearly all of my jigging gets done with spinning reels for the larger stuff and will be exclusively in line for the smaller stuff jigging, keeping my best small spinning rigs for light set lines just because I still like them.

 

I’m just a huge, huge fan of in lines now and wouldn’t hesitate to line one up for walleyes specifically.

[eyeguy 54]

2 hours ago, Rick G said:

Back in the late 90s I used a Shimano Curado 100 as my walleye jigging reel. This was back before anybody was concerned about line spin and such... It worked pretty darn good, desipie using a ice rod upside down...and fishing the spine of my rod vs. the belly...but didn't know anything about that back then either, so it didn't really matter    Hmmmmm, might have to look into a 50 size casting, and build a rod for it

Eye can see it for eyes. This is a panfish thread you two.    I suppose a bait cast would be nice for spin stop. That’s a good thing. 

Edited February 10, 2021 by eyeguy 54