Jump to content
  • GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

Recommended Posts

CigarGuy

Got a flyer in the mail the other day from these folks. Anybody check them out yet? Looks like a brand new start up business. Looks like they offer everything the others don't provide-customer service related. I heard a few months ago that possibly two new barge services were coming to Vermilion, this is one!

Link to post
Share on other sites
SkunkedAgain

I've heard some banter about it, but have largely ignored since I don't use a dock service. Barge competition interests me though!

 

There certainly was a lot of frustration and angst this spring about docks. These folks are starting up a business at the right time.

Link to post
Share on other sites
bassbouncer

TJ Kladivo owns that business and is a very honest reputable local person. I’d use him without even thinking about it if I needed him. There is another outfit opening on the east end that is from the twin cities. I know him as well and I’d trust him to do a good job also. 

 

  • Thumbs Up 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
BrianF

Wonder how TJ would feel about a late season lift out date?  Would be nice to have a dock available on my trip scheduled for mid-October. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77

I got the flier too.  anyone know what end of the lake they are on?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Wakemup52

On a related topic, for those of you whose have a boat lift... where is the best place to purchase one near Vermilion? Looking at buying one in the next couple years so I don’t have to trailer to boat all the time! 

Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77

Manick and Timbuktu sell them.

Link to post
Share on other sites
chucker1101

I went through the new lift question 9 years ago. Things could have changed since then.

 

First, I narrowed it down to three lift systems:  ShoreStation, ShoreMaster, and Floe. 

 

Then, figured out the dealer for each in the area: ShoreStation is Aronson's, ShoreMaster is/was Wright Custom Dock in Tower (are they still in business?), and Floe didn't have an on-lake dealer, but had a rep in Embarrass (i think).

 

Got a quote from all three. Ended up going with ShoreStation and Aronson's. It has worked fine, but it is difficult to impossible now to get Aronson's to do any maintenance (I wanted to replace the bunks and have someone look at it to see what other maintenance is required). Really, it has been difficult to get anyone (other than Anderson's) to respond to water-access maintenance requests.

 

I think if i had it back, i might choose Floe instead. My initial inclination was that Aronson's, because they are on the lake, would be able to handle regular maintenance. My new thought is that because Aronson's is on the lake, they are too busy to handle due to marina mgmt. Since Floe doesn't have to manage another business on the lake, maintenance might be easier to schedule.

Link to post
Share on other sites
CigarGuy

Make sure to spend the extra$$ and get a vertical lift. I got a great deal on a used cantilever and it takes forever to raise and lower, even with a power winch.

Link to post
Share on other sites
chucker1101
1 minute ago, CigarGuy said:

Make sure to spend the extra$$ and get a vertical lift. I got a great deal on a used cantilever and it takes forever to raise and lower, even with a power winch.

100% agree. Also, I'd say if you are going to do a power lift, to get a battery/solar system. You can always get your boat up/down during a power outage.

Link to post
Share on other sites
CigarGuy
On 8/19/2020 at 10:55 AM, Raven77 said:

I got the flier too.  anyone know what end of the lake they are on?

Talked to the owner yesterday. They're on the Tower end, next year they plan on having another barge stationed in the west end. East end barge is a "fork style", west end will be a "crane style". They are about $25.00 higher per lift than our current company. He said they'll be going sun up till sundown, 7 days a week once the ice is off the lake. Was bsing and forgot to ask about fall timeframe.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77

Love my Floe lift.  Purchased and installed by Manick.

Link to post
Share on other sites
chucker1101
1 hour ago, Raven77 said:

Love my Floe lift.  Purchased and installed by Manick.

 

I remember looking at the Boat Show, and i liked Floe the best as well. They had the fastest lift time when powered also. I thought it might be safer to have a lift from Aronson's as they were close and there wasn't a Floe rep on the lake at the time.

Link to post
Share on other sites
PortageBay

Sounds like the new guy (TJ) may be offer different rates depending on when you want your docks/lifts done.  He's a real class act and was brought up on the business and really embraces customer service.  

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77

"Also, I'd say if you are going to do a power lift, to get a battery/solar system. You can always get your boat up/down during a power outage."

 

Battery system, yes.  Solar system, not needed, IMO.  My FLOE lift with 2 batteries runs my lift all summer with no charge.  I just remove the batteries in the fall and put them on a trickle charger over the winter.  Never had an issue.

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Kettle
4 hours ago, PortageBay said:

Sounds like the new guy (TJ) may be offer different rates depending on when you want your docks/lifts done.  He's a real class act and was brought up on the business and really embraces customer service.  

He's good people, new to the business but grew up on the lake in the marine industry. I don't have a lake place but would hire him if I did. He does yard services and snow removal as well.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77

I'm sticking with Manick.  They have done great work for me over the years.

Link to post
Share on other sites
delcecchi

I think they got a little frustrated with folks getting in their face this spring....  

Link to post
Share on other sites
CigarGuy
On 8/30/2020 at 9:07 PM, Raven77 said:

I'm sticking with Manick.  They have done great work for me over the years.

My lift was put in May 27th. My neighbor-2 docks away, didn't get put in until end of June or first part of July. If things don't change next year, we'll be looking.

Edited by CigarGuy
Link to post
Share on other sites
CigarGuy
48 minutes ago, BrianF said:

Anyone have TJ’s contact info?

218-203-9595

Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77
Quote

My lift was put in May 27th. My neighbor-2 docks away, didn't get put in until end of June or first part of July. If things don't change next year, we'll be looking.

Mine was in for opener.  Not saying you or your neighbor did not treat them right Bill but what I've found is the better you treat a service provider the better service you get.  I've heard many complaints about Timbuktu as well but they've always treated me great.  Sometimes a case of cold beer, or a written thank you note, or just a pat on the back goes a long ways.

Edited by Raven77
Link to post
Share on other sites
SkunkedAgain

I don't have a dock issue, but this reminds me of when I met my wife. We both traveled for work and would have friendly "competitions" to see who could get the most free stuff on our trips. By that I mean who could get upgraded to the nicer hotel room, get bumped up to first class, etc. Being nice and genuinely friendly with the folks grinding it out all day at their jobs was the key. I like to chat so it was natural. Raven77 - I chatted with your wife for probably half an hour earlier this summer, and enjoyed the entire conversation.

 

Give the dock guys a beer. Bake them some cookies. The thank you note is a good idea.

 

I didn't follow the Manicks situation too closely but assume that they were a little over-extended and people were not happy that they couldn't get their docks into the water fast enough. It's the nature of the beast when relying on others to get things done. C'est la vie!

Link to post
Share on other sites
Big V Bobcat
29 minutes ago, SkunkedAgain said:

I don't have a dock issue, but this reminds me of when I met my wife. We both traveled for work and would have friendly "competitions" to see who could get the most free stuff on our trips. By that I mean who could get upgraded to the nicer hotel room, get bumped up to first class, etc. Being nice and genuinely friendly with the folks grinding it out all day at their jobs was the key. I like to chat so it was natural. Raven77 - I chatted with your wife for probably half an hour earlier this summer, and enjoyed the entire conversation.

 

Give the dock guys a beer. Bake them some cookies. The thank you note is a good idea.

 

I didn't follow the Manicks situation too closely but assume that they were a little over-extended and people were not happy that they couldn't get their docks into the water fast enough. It's the nature of the beast when relying on others to get things done. C'est la vie!

 

I never had a real issue either. They do good work and are generally reliable, but severely lack in the customer relations department. They could never give me a price to do something, could never tell me when something was going to be done. Never would get a call back or a response to emails. Took 5 phone calls to actually talk to someone, and then felt like they weren't even paying attention. My boss on Pine Island ordered a new dock one fall a couple years ago and it didn't get delivered till like July the following year, and he didn't get billed for it until winter time. Then this spring it was excuse after excuse about "the wind" yadda yadda. Not sure on the truth, but rumor was that their crew quit, and that's why lifts took so long to install because they were down to one barge. 

 

Truth is, they had hardly any competition and most people 'needed' them, not vice versa so they could do what they pleased. Now there will be some much needed competition on the lake.

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77

Competition is always good, and a big part of the story with Manick is that there's more work than they could keep up with to meet the time demands of everyone.  They work hard and work long hours.  Imagine having hundreds of docks to put in and everyone wanting their's in first, continuously calling, emailing and complaining.  If I was in their business the guy that pestered me the most would move to the back of the list.

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
CigarGuy

In the 7+ years we've been here, I've giving them a decent amount of business. Bought a used lift from them that didn't end up working out. I found a used one one the lake they went and picked it up on a trailer, loaded on the barge and delivered and set it up. Also, new lift dock and cement slab. Had my neighbor switch over to them from another service on the lake. I've bs'd with Joe and his crew when I'm here and see them. They actually are supposed to be coming back any day now to correct a issue with my dock, so I can lift it myself. Like I've said before nice people, just need to improve the customer service end of things! I wish them the best, but I'm not going to bake them any cookies in the near future 🙂🙂🥂

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77

Funny stuff Bill!  You can bring some cookies by my fish house this winter and I will trade with Fireball.

Link to post
Share on other sites
CigarGuy

Fireball is hard on my gut😀. Funny thing is White Russians go down real good.... Sipping on one now 🥂🥂.  I'll bring you some cookies, if you let me reel in one of your walleye's!

Link to post
Share on other sites
Raven77

Deal.  I might ever mix up some White Russians.  I'm ready for hard water right now.

  • Thumbs Up 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 weeks later...

Curious friends on who has decided to switch from a prior dock service to one of the new one TJ at Shamrock or Sean at Vermilion Dock and Lift. Appears you can save considerable money using the new companies, especially the latter.

 

Thoughts? Worth the risk of them going out of business and losing the existing dock service? Save money?

 

Curious what everyone decided

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Similar Content

    • LakeofthewoodsMN
      By LakeofthewoodsMN
      On the south end...  Dress warm and catch walleyes!  Some even bring their Mr. Heater in the boat.  High temps this week in the low 40's.  The water temps are in the 30's and the walleyes are staged in many early ice areas.  Good reports on the lake with a mix of small fish, eaters and some big fish.  Consider areas on the lake such as the Lighthouse Gap, Morris Point Gap, Zippel Bay and Long Point.  Good reports in all of those areas.  Walleyes in 7 - 26' of water.  Most anglers anchored up and jigging with an emerald shiner.  Pink, gold, glow and green jigs working well.  Pike are active in bays and along shorelines.  Trolling crankbaits for some anglers is still effective, but jigging by far the chosen technique this time of year.
      On the Rainy River...   Anglers seeing good numbers of walleyes on electronics as well as a lot of bait.  With so many shiners in the river, catching walleyes has been tougher than normal.  The river is still low, current slow.  Best depths anywhere from 7-24'.  Most anglers are jigging with live or frozen shiners.  Pink, glow and gold combo effective.  Trolling crankbaits over flats where fish are spread still pulling some fish.  Walleyes in Four Mile Bay 10-15'.  Sturgeon anglers focusing on deeper holes with current.  A sturgeon rig with crawlers and shiners.
      Up at the NW Angle...  
      Nice walleyes being caught up at the Angle for anglers braving some colder than normal temps.  Jig and a minnow on points and areas with current all good places to start in 13'-26'.  Gold, pink, and glow colors great choices.  Some big pike being caught by walleye anglers as well as those trolling shorelines.  Pike and muskies in bays and off of rock points.  


    • JBMasterAngler
      By JBMasterAngler
      What’s the status of small lakes in the arrowhead? I’m going to Grand Marais this weekend, and the forecast looks pretty miserable 😩 I have a feeling I’m going to be busting through ice to launch my boat. But is it at all possible that some of these little designated trout lakes could be locked up completely? 
    • JBMasterAngler
      By JBMasterAngler
      DNR has a proposal to remove the dam on the Grindstone River, in Hinckley. The reservoir, which serves absolutely no purpose, is about 27 acres, and is nothing but mud and silt. I’m in favor of any and all dam removals! They’re taking comments via e-mail until November 12. If you want to write the DNR, subject e-mail “Grindstone EIS” to [email protected]
    • Hawkem9
      By Hawkem9
      Hey guys, 
       
      Looking for some opinions from those of you who fish the lake consistently.  We take a fall trip every year and have been on the cass chain the last 5 years.  Planning on heading to Vermillion this year.  We have two dates in mind being either the 18-25 of Sept or the 9-16th of October.  Love to be somewhere in the middle but it wont work this year.  We will fish Smallies/wallys the majority of the time and planning to stay on the east side.  Would any of you suggest one of those times over the other?  I am seeing the current weather up that way and its making me a bit nervous about the later dates, but if the fishing is better by mid october will certainly risk some colder weather.  Thanks for any input!
    • evinrudespeed
      By evinrudespeed
      So the weather really tanked!! I was hoping to fish until November before winterizing the boat.
       
      Anyone been out...either reservoirs or up Hwy 53? Any idea of when landings start pulling docks...probably on DNR site huh?
    • evinrudespeed
      By evinrudespeed
      Heading out to Leech in the cold temps...hoping to stay at least dry. Any reports or bait suggestions? I’ll keep you posted.
    • Snogan
      By Snogan
      Just wondering if anyone else that fishes the Root (especially below Lanesboro) has ever patterned or had any luck targeting sauger/eyes. This is my first year trying for them after hearing whispers for years and I've been surprised with my results. So far I've caught 5 sauger and 4 eyes out of the Root this year, a 17 inch Sauger and a 22 inch eye being my biggest so far. I know the river is a lot better known for trout but if anybody else has had any luck targeting other species I'd love to share reports or tactics. 
    • papadarv
      By papadarv
      Finally got out fishing this season, long weekend on Ottertail, Vacationland resort. Lots of wind Fri & Sun, Sat fairly calm. Marked lots of fish but slow bite with a few walleye & perch. Crallers, raps, suckers, shad. Day 16 - 19 FOW deep side of weeds and 6 - 9 FOW shallow side of weeds after dark. 61 to 62 deg water temp. Lots of bait balls at 17 - 19 and suspended at 20 - 25 ft in 40 - 150 FOW. Much needed fantastic weekend.
      Pics, multi helix 9 SI - DI - Sonar, cabin lake view, Son, Grandson. Hard to believe the monster perch hit a 3" Sucker.

       

       

       

    • RedSunset
      By RedSunset
      Is anyone out there getting tired of all these fishing tournaments?  Lake Vermilion just came off an August with way too much Bass tournament pressure.  Several folks are really concerned about what all that pressure is doing to our fish populations.  The week of August, first week of Sept. there was a 3 day B.A.S.S. event.  There was pre fishing all week then the 3 day event.  It looked like a swarm of locusts out here on the Lake.  People who live on the lake and people who came up for vacation to fish bass could hardly find a place to fish.  B.A.S.S does not practice true catch and release or Catch Record Release.  There practice is to catch hold in live well,  parade across a stage, hold the fish in a tank, releasing them somewhere in the lake.  The mortality must be quite high.  Besides the DNR is not monitoring how the fish are handled or where they are released.  Both are regulated in the Tournament guidelines for Lake Vermilion. Also those fish are displaced from their normal habitat.  Many residents on Lake Vermilion are complaining.  There are just too many fishing tournaments. Too much pre fishing.  Too often.  Time for the DNR and MN legislators to take a new look at the statutes governing them.
    • jim curlee
      By jim curlee
      28 here this morning.
      Ice fishin will be here before you know it. LOL
      Might even get here before deer huntin. lol
      Jim
  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • mulefarm
    • Dash 1
      As much as I would like to blame the catfish or other species of hurting the panfish population, the number one factor I believe is over harvest from fishing. There are people that fish 4 or more days a week and give fish away to others that don’t fish.  Somehow they just can’t bring themselves to catch and release which I do not understand.  I love fishing and I love the taste of fish but no way my I cleaning fish every time I go out. Hopefully we can continue to educate people on the benefits of catch and release instead of keeping so many. It sucks to go down to 10 or 5 for a limit, but if it helps us down the road I will live with it.  The lake my in-laws have a cabin on has been 5 sunfish for many years now and  it has helped. It just takes a while.
    • PRO-V
      I have trouble taking recommendations from someone that is obviously just trying to use this forum to sell stuff. Just like the pro's - the best product is the one that sponsors them. 🙄
    • gimruis
      I don't fish that series of lakes but I have also heard that the introduction of the catfish years ago has played a significant role in reducing the population of panfish, especially bluegills.  I know bass anglers that fish out there regularly using artificial moving lures that still catch catfish.  That tells me they are aggressive and hungry.   I believe muskies were also introduced but muskies have not been proven to have a measurable impact on panfish populations, except for maybe perch.  There's simply not enough of them and stomach content studies have shown they prefer a diet of suckers, ciscoes (when present), small pike, and perch.  Would they eat a bluegill given the chance?  Of course.  But they do not seek them out as primary prey.   Another likely factor is angler over harvest.  Panfish populations get hammered almost year round now.
    • smurfy
      looks like there will be a change in sunfish limits effective march 1. article in todays st cloud times said there looking to reduce the sunfish limit on 9 area lakes. those lakes happen to make up the horseshoe chain system. looks like the new limit will go from 20 to 10.   now this is just my opinion but i didnt hear any issues with the panfish population  until a few years after they introduced the catfish to that system.   either way i'm ok with the change! 
    • Austin12345
      love all the pictures 
    • Austin12345
      Are you looking for one for hardwater or openwater
    • gimruis
      Whoa, bringing this one back from the dead.   I use Rockys.  The specific model are Cornstalkers.  They have 500 grams of insulation.  I use mine as all-purpose boots, walking for pheasants/grouse and sitting for deer/turkeys.  The first set I had lasted for about 10 years before they started to fall apart.  I'm on my second pair now, year 3 coming up.  I had a pair of Redhead Comfort Airs from Bass Pro for 2 seasons and they started to leak and my feet always got wet.  Highly suggest avoiding the Redhead brand of boots.
    • billrider80
      I like Danner. These boots tick all the right factors that go into delivering a great boot experience, more here https://bootsgeek.com/danner-quarry-review/
    • JBMasterAngler
      Well, just wrapped up my last day in Grand Marais. All the smaller, shallow lakes are locked up with ice, or will be after tonight. Lots of snow up the trail, but getting around on back roads wasn’t a problem. I stopped and fished most of the trout lakes around the gunflint and arrowhead trails...the ones that weren’t frozen over anyway. My dad didn’t see a single grouse...I saw one at the start of the arrowhead. I didn’t hear a single gunshot while I was out fishing. Saw 1 moose, 1 bear, a few deer, foxes were everywhere! And even saw a fisher run across the road. Saw just about every animal print you can think of in the snow. Still a few diving ducks around, snow buntings and crossbills everywhere. And finally seen a gray jay! Despite the cold and snow, it really wasn’t that bad out. Was a different perspective fishing all the lakes in waders, as opposed to being in a boat.   
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.