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FishinCT

Awesome trip from the sounds of it. Good luck on Vermilion although we all know you’ll kill it as always! 

 

Those fishermen out west don’t have the same affection for big pike that we do here. Out there they are just trout and salmon eaters. And they have decimated their share of formerly good fisheries

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mbeyer

Here’s to hoping you have wi-fi at the lake and you can do daily reports????

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Raven77

" I called the DNR and asked them to come out and remove these bears from our yard. After the warden I was talking with stopped laughing he said that the DNR quit trapping and removing bears quite awhile back. He went on to say that, if I considered the bear a threat or was tired of the damage, just go ahead and KILL IT!!!"

 

I'm calling BS.  I know a lot of CO's and not a single one of them would advocate killing a bear that was simply raiding bird feeders.  Nice story though.

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MarkB

Well Raven77, I really don't know how to be gentle about this so I'll just come out with it, you don't know jack chit about my conversation with the DNR officer that I spoke with. I'm a little bit allergic to being called a liar. I called the DNR and that is what I was told. Why don't some of you other readers try calling the DNR and see what you're told.

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Following is straight from MN DNR website on problem bears.  If a DNR officer suggested killing a bear over raiding a bird feeder they should be fired.  If you think killing a bear over raiding a bird feeder is the right solution you are messed up.  You don't need to be gentle.  I can handle myself just fine.  Stop by my cabin anytime you want.

 

"Sometimes a bear causing problems must be killed. This method should be used only after exhausting all other options. A person may kill a bear to protect their property; however this option should be used only if the bear is causing immediate danger or significant property damage. A bear may also be killed by local law enforcement officers or a Conservation Officer if it is determined a public safety issue. Bears are the property of the State of Minnesota. The killing of a problem bear must be reported to a Conservation Officer within 48 hours. When feasible bears killed will be salvaged."

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Raven77

BTW, I'm not an anti.  I have killed several bears, including two in the Pope and Young record book.  I just believe shooting a bear because it is raiding a bird feeder is not only illegal but unethical.  If you believe differently then you must support breaking the law.  If you want to debate it stop by my cabin on Richie Bay this week.  Would love to show you some bear rugs and debate this topic with you.

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MarkB

Learn how to read tough guy.

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Raven77

Back at you tough guy.  Start with DNR regs on justification for shooting a bear.  You shoot a bear for raiding a bird feeder and you are a poacher.  Go for it.

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FishinCT
On 9/24/2019 at 11:32 AM, MarkB said:

He went on to say that, if I considered the bear a threat or was tired of the damage, just go ahead and KILL IT!!! and then call them to come and pick it up!!! Wow! I didn't want to kill them, I just didn't want my wife to have to keep taking a black garbage bag with her to the mailbox

Mark is not the one to have the problem with

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Bigfatbert

I agree that shooting a bear because it’s raiding a bird feeder is wrong , the feeder should be removed and usually that will take care of the issue at hand .

Now if a bear is rummaging around the yard and bird feeders were never the issue , and ones personal belongings are continually being destroyed and ones personal safety is being threatened and live trapping is not being done well then one has all the right to take the matter into his own hands and dispatch the darn bear , plain and simple . Bears can be problematic and sometimes have to be dealt with in this matter either by a CO or by the property owner to put a end to the situation . 

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Raven77

"Mark is not the one to have the problem with"

 

Yep, as I pointed out above  "If a DNR officer suggested killing a bear over raiding a bird feeder they should be fired."  I would like to know the name of the DNR officer that suggested this so I could give them a call.

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Rick

Raven77...what the DNR officer told Mark sounds like it is within the law.

 

Let it be please.

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