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delcecchi

I havent' had a bad transducer since I started storing them inside in the winter.   It may be just correlation and not causation.... But I will keep doing so.   (the US2 transducer freezes in the dark along with the trolling motor.0

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TSquared

Just sat through a presentation at my Muskie Club meeting lead by a professional installer and his first recommendation was to turn off CHIRP.  Said if you are not fishing consistently in depth greater than 50ft it will not work well due to the higher frequency range.  You will get much better image with it off.  Of course there is nothing in any of the manual that references this as the manufacture just wants to promote a new feature to buy.  

 

Second biggest mistake most make is not keeping the firmware update on units!  Usually many bug fixes that are resolved well after units first manufactured.  

 

I switched to Garmin a last year and for the easy of use and price, really like them.

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gimruis
1 hour ago, TSquared said:

Just sat through a presentation at my Muskie Club meeting lead by a professional installer and his first recommendation was to turn off CHIRP.  Said if you are not fishing consistently in depth greater than 50ft it will not work well due to the higher frequency range.  You will get much better image with it off. 

I think most people familiar with the CHIRP option should know that its solely designed for fishing very deep water.  I don't ever fish in those depths so there was no reason to purchase one with the CHIRP option to begin with.

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chucker1101
2 hours ago, gimruis said:

I think most people familiar with the CHIRP option should know that its solely designed for fishing very deep water.  I don't ever fish in those depths so there was no reason to purchase one with the CHIRP option to begin with.

My understanding (could be wrong) of CHIRP is there is one advantage in <50 ft. It is supposed to be better at showing bottom/fish, etc. at higher speeds. Whether or not that is really true, don't know.

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delcecchi

Besides, what the folks call chirp isn't really chirp.   Chirp is a technique for providing a narrow high power pulse by varying the frequency and  then running the input or output through a dispersive delay line.   So a pulse is sent out over say, a couple of milliseconds and it varies in frequency over that time.  It is run through a device that has a delay that changes with frequency inversely to the sent pulse so it ends up as if the whole pulse was sent at the same time.   

 

Yeah, I'm an engineer.  wanna make something of it?

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TSquared

I guess the point is you really can't buy any of the new units without it and it come on as the default. 

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delcecchi
5 hours ago, TSquared said:

I guess the point is you really can't buy any of the new units without it and it come on as the default. 

Fake chirp as marketing gimmick.    They need something to convince folks to buy their unit and dump their unit from two years ago.   

I am reserving judgement on the new higher frequency units.  "mega" and equiv.   Side scan actually seems like it could be useful.  Lots of stuff is changing these days in electronics.    

 

I think what would be cool is an underwater drone with several transducers that communicates back to the boat wirelessly with sonar and video.....    Fresh water doesn't block radio waves too much so probably could use radio communication at least for a limited distance.       Some sort of modulated acoustic waves would work too.    

 

Can't you just see, sitting in the boat, driving the mini-sub around looking  for fish, with sonar to help?   I bet the open water musky guys would pay big bucks for one....😂

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TSquared

I fished with a guide on the Detroit River two weeks ago who had the new Panoptix unit ($4000 to get setup).  Incredible what you could see as it is a live image.  Have to say it can frustrate the hell out of you sometime,  you see the fish just looking at your bait and then swimming away.  Very cool tech!  You could actually see the fins on the fish in the image and truly judge the size somewhat.  

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DLD24

I have a couple Garmins and I like them a lot, especially the new touchscreen.

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On 4/23/2019 at 6:41 AM, TSquared said:

I fished with a guide on the Detroit River two weeks ago who had the new Panoptix unit ($4000 to get setup).  Incredible what you could see as it is a live image.  Have to say it can frustrate the hell out of you sometime,  you see the fish just looking at your bait and then swimming away.  Very cool tech!  You could actually see the fins on the fish in the image and truly judge the size somewhat.  

I picked up a panoptix livescope/Garmin 93sv+ this winter and it’s amazing. Working at mounting the transducer on the trolling motor (or somewhere else on the boat) before the ice melts. 

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mbeyer

Pretty dissapointing to read about CHIRP. I fell for it....

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delcecchi
36 minutes ago, mbeyer said:

Pretty dissapointing to read about CHIRP. I fell for it....

I you needed a new unit, they all have CHIRP, and they don't seem to really charge extra for it so don't feel bad.  

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chucker1101
On 4/23/2019 at 10:19 PM, DLD24 said:

I have a couple Garmins and I like them a lot, especially the new touchscreen.

 

 

Interested in seeing how the touchscreen hold up. There's a reason they've been slow coming to the Fishfinder market - mainly the extra cost associated with making them rugged enough for the elements.

 

Don't know how many times i try to adjust my 'bird with my fingers - once you're trained on other touchscreens it's hard to break the habit.

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TSquared

Jason Quintano from Fins & Grins Guide Service is working to have a mount manufactured specifically for the Panoptix as mounting to a trolling motor is not the best place.  Reach out to him, great guy!

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DLD24
12 hours ago, chucker1101 said:

 

Interested in seeing how the touchscreen hold up. There's a reason they've been slow coming to the Fishfinder market - mainly the extra cost associated with making them rugged enough for the elements.

 

Don't know how many times i try to adjust my 'bird with my fingers - once you're trained on other touchscreens it's hard to break the habit.

I'll let ya know how rugged it is, it spent about 2 hours underwater when I put my wheeler through the ice a month ago. I'm scared to try and turn it on haha.

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