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delcecchi

New neighbor decided he likes to feed deer in the winter, and he does so right on our side of his yard.   The food attracts many many deer, and so our yard now has a big mudhole as well as bushels of deer pellets.    (free for the raking).   

Nobody on the road is very happy about him feeding the deer since they tramp around the area and stand on the road and so on.   

He didn't sound like "oops won't do that anymore" but more like "no big deal, it will wash away and the grass will grow back"   

Anybody got any suggestions?   CO says "nothing that he can do", Town board isn't happy either but isn't convinced they can do anything.   I'm thinking that if they pass a rule, then I can take him to small claims court every spring until he stops wrecking our lawn.  

Molotov cocktails are a last resort.   I am thinking of a fence that I put up in the fall to funnel the deer away from my yard.   Snowfence is too short but might help discourage them....  

I really don't want war with the neighbor but this can't go on.    I'll talk to him again and see what he is thinking....   Maybe a letter from all his neighbors...  

I need ideas...

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CigarGuy

Rig up a motion sensor with a horn or alarm of some kind.

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james_walleye

Got a good tree for a stand? Haha

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PRO-V

A letter from all the neighbors or a neighborhood meeting with him sounds like a good first thing to try. Maybe he'll get the hint. Better than war.

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delcecchi
2 hours ago, james_walleye said:

Got a good tree for a stand? Haha

My deck?

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Wanderer

Fence and pressure from the neighborhood is your best best until there is a law against it.

Good luck.

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Bigfatbert

I agree with your neighbor , it isn't a big deal , your grass will grow back , and my guess is with the spring rains , all poop pellets will disintegrate and be totally gone soon , if they are not already gone ..  my question is what the heck are you planning to do with Molotov cocktails ?  If I saw you toss one at the deer , I would be calling that CO , and he WOULD have something to write YOU a ticket for . .  And if you flung one onto my property , well let's just say you would have a big issue to deal with yourself ,, that would be me !!! My suggestion is to just relax ..

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james_walleye

Because I'm sure he was serious about Molotov cocktails.  Is there an eyeroll button? 

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Wanderer
26 minutes ago, james_walleye said:

Because I'm sure he was serious about Molotov cocktails.  Is there an eyeroll button? 

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FishinCT

Feeding deer, especially in the winter, is a really good way to spread disease. Maybe you won't have to worry about them as much next winter after all

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Wakemup

Send him some literature on CWD. Like FishingCT mentioned, disease spreads at common gathering points where deer may rub noses. CWD, for example, spreads through a prion or protein that can spread this way. 

This spread of disease is an example of why disease in raised herds is such a big deal.

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Finnish Flash

I got a good idea........maybe have a couple more beers and not worry so much about your neighbors. In fact invite them over for a dinner and a beer and discuss your issues...that's how my neighborhood settles issues.  Man to man...works out pretty good....

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delcecchi
8 hours ago, Finnish Flash said:

I got a good idea........maybe have a couple more beers and not worry so much about your neighbors. In fact invite them over for a dinner and a beer and discuss your issues...that's how my neighborhood settles issues.  Man to man...works out pretty good....

Tried that.  Pretty much got the bigfatbert response.  total blowoff, didn't even really acknowledge the neighborhood concerns.     I guess we will see if he does it again this winter.   Neighbors on other side have a 3 year old.  They weren't happy with the piles of poop in their yard either.   

I'm starting to wonder if he is one of those guys who just does what he feels like without much consideration of the neighbors.    Don't know yet.  

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Mike89
37 minutes ago, roony said:

I have a problem with feeding deer. I have found that you just can't educate people though. If he isn't breaking any laws there isn't much you can do about it.

I also have a problem with people that buy a place on a lake up north and convert the property to a "Lake Minnetonka" type setting. Not much a person can do about that either. To me the perfect lake place is one you have to look really hard from the water to tell there is a cabin there because the shoreline is left unspoiled. 

I guess it comes down to people having the right to do what they want on their own property unless laws are made to prevent it. You can't fix stupid, that's why laws are necessary. 

and when you are at the cabin you can not see any other cabins!!!!!  or homes!!!!

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delcecchi
6 hours ago, roony said:

I have a problem with feeding deer. I have found that you just can't educate people though. If he isn't breaking any laws there isn't much you can do about it.

I also have a problem with people that buy a place on a lake up north and convert the property to a "Lake Minnetonka" type setting. Not much a person can do about that either. To me the perfect lake place is one you have to look really hard from the water to tell there is a cabin there because the shoreline is left unspoiled. 

I guess it comes down to people having the right to do what they want on their own property unless laws are made to prevent it. You can't fix stupid, that's why laws are necessary. 

I have had the place since 1984.  He bought last year.  It is a pretty well developed area.   If the deer he attracts stayed on his yard I would be ok with that.  Apparently he was feeding them right next to the line.    (btw the lots are 100 feet of lakeshore.  )

Yeah, it isn't that what he is doing is unlawful, it is just jerky.   

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norwaybay

Wolf party of six.  Wolf party your table is ready.

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delcecchi
1 hour ago, norwaybay said:

Wolf party of six.  Wolf party your table is ready.

From your lips to God's ears....

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Capt. Quicksteel

The motion sensor idea is pretty good. Also, Northern Tool has a coyote decoy that looks scary as Hell. I have used it to keep Eagles from sitting on my dock and crapping all over it. It may scare deer away too. It may come down to some kind of a fence.

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Wheres_Walter

He upwind or downwind from you?   Clean all your fish and pile the guts on the same lot line all summer long.  Threaten to build an outhouse nearby?   Fight fire with fire, so to speak.  I'm partly kidding.  but only partly.....

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eyeguy 54

I like the motion detector hooked up to loud noise idea. Aim the blow horn right at his house. Or a nice bright spotlight.

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SkunkedAgain

Put a food plot on your property so that the deer don't go over there!

I hear you Roony. My cabin is exactly what you described, but I rather lucked into finding a place that was heading that direction. Plus I've got 300ft of shoreline. In Del's area, the cabins are packed in tightly with yards. Yes he could let it go natural again, but that will take a decade or two and won't help his immediate problem.

Del - put some deer-feeding brochures from the DNR in everyone's mailboxes (not just his) and see if he learns anything. Otherwise, I'm with the others that in general you want to create a deer deterrent to counter his deer attractant. Something scary, something loud, maybe a bunch of wind chimes near the property line that scare away the deer. Shoot off roman candles into the air everytime you see deer near the feeder. That might scare them and create a negative memory. Maybe it's time for you to adopt a deer-hating dog for the winter?

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delcecchi

Unfortunately I am a seasonal resident, although the neighbor on the other side and I are thinking fence.  Hoping a snowfence would be enough to funnel them away from us and on to others.   I'll talk to him again this weekend and see what he says.   

I do have a couple people I know on the town board and they aren't big deer fans either.  They just don't have much in the way of ideas about how to proceed.   

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trolloni

lets see here, neighbor doesn't like what other neighbor is doing ,  is this something new?   on a fishing forum?

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delcecchi
1 hour ago, trolloni said:

lets see here, neighbor doesn't like what other neighbor is doing ,  is this something new?   on a fishing forum?

Nope, just hoped for some insight as to what to do, beyond obvious.   It's a Vermilion forum and the location is Vermilion.    

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