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vermilionfox

Cliff do you have any availability on either 8/5 or 8/6? I'd need to come to you. I'm staying on the west end while picking some kids up but it would be nice to get out and fish with you again!

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Cliff Wagenbach

DLD24,

I have not seen those suspended fish in the area that I have been fishing.

Cooked fish look great!

Cliff

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Cliff Wagenbach

Vermilionfox,

I still have both of those days open at this time.

Call or e-mail me and I will reserve one of them for you.

Will be fun fishing with you again also!

Thanks!

Cliff

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Stephen L Johnston Jr.
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Toddrun,

I totally feel you on the big lake aspect of Vermilion. Our old cabin was just east of pike bay lodge, you’ll see the new owner has a big circular barrel type sauna up front now. Growing up I found it a lot easier to work with by breaking the lake down into sections on what I would like to accomplish for the day, otherwise I get out their and do more scouting than actual fishing.I literally have a few maps all highlited out with my spots (decided to show you a pic of the water damaged set), as you will find the depths maybe a little off, and certain gps chips show a lot more detail where I have found a few “secret” humps that are not on others. To this day I have not done much fishing past the Frazier bay / Hoyt island area, beside my one trip to life o Reilly resort on the way northeast end. Haven’t really had to other than for exploration. I was playing with the idea of taking up MarkB on his offer to pm him on a few tips as I know he was over that way more often than I but I’m not sure he logs on that much anymore. We always have to troll Pike bay one as it was my dads mainstay, but as him and the old owner Jim Kivela have said the fishing in the bay has not been as good as it once was. Digging through the old post all the way back to 2011 (I do this once a year it seems) I found that the walleye classic winning weigh in has gone up over the years quite a bit  however, since Casey was the winner, still sad he doesn’t do his weekly YouTube updates. I think the progressive upgrades on sonar over the years has surely helped out the average fisherman, heck I’m sure I would learn a lot if I would stop being so cheap and hired cliff for the day and had him let me pick at his mind for the day on such topics and presentations. On that note I see he has been hooking into some bigger walleye which is a good thing in my eyes, I alsways like to get a few in or above the slot over a weeks time. We will be in the old pike master boat, if you happen to see us don’t be shy to say hi, we will be staying at the hoodoo point campgrounds. 

Good luck, look forward to all the updates from everyone!

Pike Master

 

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toddrun

Thanks Stephen, for the information and insight.

I think I will take one of your suggestions and run with it.  I am going to focus on the areas around Pike Bay, and stay localized.  Unless I get totally skunked and am forced to widen my scope.  I have gotten enough good intel, that I think I can do my best to find some fish.  Maybe not Walleye, but possibly Bass, Pike, Panfish, whatever will bite.  I will just enjoy the scenery, and fish, and if the fish cooperate and bite, so much the better.

I will post a report when I get back.

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Toddrun,

Pike Bay is mostly an early morning late evening walleye bite now.

Concentrate your search in Big Bay for daytime fish!

If you do happen to hit a large bug hatch switch to hammered gold spinners and 1/2 crawler!

Cliff

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PRO-V

One time on Winnie after a couple of good days on the Bena Bar a bug hatch went off heavy. Switched to bottom bouncer and hammered gold/ crawler and still couldn't get them to go. Water was boiling with fish all over. While cranking in my line fast to plot my next stategy I lifted the rig out of the water and saw 6 walleye chasing it. Dropped it back 10', used the electric motor and got my limit. They were up high on the emergers. This was over 27' of water.

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Pat McGraw

Pro-V, That opens up a potential new dimension in approach. Thank you.

I'm looking forward to hitting Frazer this weekend with my brother-in-lay and nephew and providing a report next week.

Thanks again.

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snagger

I'm heading up with my wife and two little boys this weekend. We will be there for 4 days. We are staying at Everett Bay Lodge. I really want to get my boys on some fish. We'll try walleye a little bit but I was thinking if I'm looking for more consistent action I may have to go for bass. Anyone know if they're spawning and up shallow? The weather looks a little dicey this weekend and I'm also wondering if the cooler temps will push any shallow fish a bit deeper. Any general advice would be appreciated.

I should have reserved a day with  Cliff. I'm sure you're booked now though......

Thanks!

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SkunkedAgain
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With all do respect to Cliff, even if he is booked there are a lot of guides that you can call through the guides league. Cliff is just one of the few on this forum, which we are all very thankful for!

Fishing can often be better as a new system approaches!

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Shulsebus

I will be up to the lake Saturday. Making some Lindy rigs. Is there a certain length or hook color that is working right now?

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Cliff Wagenbach

Snagger,

A slip bobber with a leech will get plenty of bass and a few walleyes if fished in the shallow rocks and close to docks. Should keep the kids happy!

Mostly small males right now from what I have heard but plenty of fight in them!

Cliff

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Cliff Wagenbach

Shulsebus,

I use a 5' leader with a red, black, pink, or bronze #4 hook on my leech and crawler rigs.

Cliff

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redlabguy

Definitely a crawler bite for me this morning. And I had good luck on the rocky edges of a reef, my favorite kind of fishing even with occasional snags. 16-20 fow.

Summer is here!

RLG

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Cliff Wagenbach

Tough bite for decent fish the past few days!

Went out by myself this morning and switched tactics again.

Trolled spinners/1/2 crawler and #4 gold Shad Raps on a 3-way rig in 24' to 30'. Had my limit of 4, 15" to 16" walleyes and a jumbo in the first hour! Released 5 other smaller walleyes also during the 2-1/2 hours that I was out.

Cliff

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delcecchi

You didn't troll them at the same time, right?   How much weight were you using?  

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Bigfatbert

Got 8 nice keeps today in 26 to 36 feet of water in Big Bay from 8:30- almost noon , plus one throw back dink . Six keeps on jig n tiny shiner , and two keeps on jig and small leeches. 1/8 oz jigs . The small shiners were trapped by us .. I pretty much fish a jig all summer long . Although I do realize other methods do have there times out there, I just like jigs , and usually always manage fish on them with either a leech , crawler piece , or a minnow ..

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Cliff Wagenbach

Del,

No I did not troll the spinners and Raps at the same time.

I kept switching rigs just to see what would work.

I used a 1-1/2 oz. bell sinker on the 3-way rigs and a 2 oz. bottom bouncer with the spinners.

Cliff

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PSU

Yesterday was the first time I have noticed all of the dead smaller minnows floating around in the Frazer / Smarts Bay area. Friend of mine who knows the lake as well as anyone indicated it may be perch minnows choking on spiny water fleas. If so, that's a bit disconcerting.....Can anyone confirm?

Slow for me mid to late afternoon yesterday in the area fishing for walleyes.. 

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redlabguy

PSU,

If that’s the cause, that’s a serious problem! Has anyone seen evidence of spiny waterfleas this spring?

RLG

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Jetsky

I haven't seen any dead minnows or evidence of spiny waterfleas in Frazier Bay this year.

Any advice for fishing Frazier bay currently?  Usually around Father's Day we can catch them using slip bobbers and leeches/crawlers in shallower water in the evenings.  All we get are 11 inchers this year.  Any advice would be appreciated.

 

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delcecchi
17 hours ago, Cliff Wagenbach said:

Del,

No I did not troll the spinners and Raps at the same time.

I kept switching rigs just to see what would work.

I used a 1-1/2 oz. bell sinker on the 3-way rigs and a 2 oz. bottom bouncer with the spinners.

Cliff

Thanks Cliff.  I was pretty sure you weren't using both at same time because law and because a itty bitty shad rap wouldn't get down that deep.  😀

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