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No dumpster at Rogers

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"Beltrami County is going to start cracking down on business that do not have dumpsters."

About time! I try to do the right thing (and teach my kids) by picking up around where we fish but then get stuck taking it home to put in my personal trash. I even asked a commercial business on the south shore where I could dump trash that I'd picked up on the lake and they told me to take it home or leave it on the lake... The access fees only cover the roads? At $15-$20 a vehicle I think there should be a little more concern for the resource than that.

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I always go back tot he areas I have ruined over the winter and look for any things thy may of got lost or froze in, Plus when i'm doing that I spot other garbage . I do not mind it but it gets old when your trying to get stuff done and I get side tracked picking up other crap. Some things are accidental but avoidable. I got a giant hunk of indoor outdoor green turf this year in dec  They must of had it as a floor and it melted to the ice. It took a bit but I was able to retrieve it

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jb426

Confirmed, no dumpster.  All other resorts I've gone out of both on red and mille lacs offered dumpsters as part of the road fee.  Rogers has always offered a dumpster in years past, wonder what happened.  Road fees go down now that he eliminated a huge expense?

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aczr2k

I think its ridiculous that anyone that runs a road access and charges $20 per vehicle is not required to have a public use dumpster for their customers.  One day alone road access fees can bring in what $10k to $20k? on the conservative side.  Can't tell me they aren't able to afford a dumpster.

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ozzie

and that is "straight cash hommie!" 

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aczr2k
19 hours ago, ozzie said:

and that is "straight cash hommie!" 

Oh come on now... we all know every $20 is ran thru the register and accounted for at income tax time!!

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Agronomist_at_IA
On January 4, 2018 at 12:57 PM, aczr2k said:

I think its ridiculous that anyone that runs a road access and charges $20 per vehicle is not required to have a public use dumpster for their customers.  One day alone road access fees can bring in what $10k to $20k? on the conservative side.  Can't tell me they aren't able to afford a dumpster.

 

 

After reading all the post and having gone to upper red once a year sometimes twice (Started renting shacks then got a wheel house 3 yrs ago) for the past eleven years. I find this entire thread and topic somewhat laughable. The locals and resorts seem to complain about an issue they've brought upon themselves. I kinda agree with the post you've put up to a point. 

 

Here is my view.....maybe it is wrong. I drive 7+ hours from Northwest Iowa pay the fees to fish in Minnesota for a couple days. Pay the resort fees for roads, pay for services at the resorts. I tend to buy fuel, bait, propane, and food at the places we use, and sometimes other services. These people make a living using the lake to BRING the business to them. Then when they get the people to the lake and get some money flowing and are having success with people showing up.......the big problem is trash......Seems pretty simple to me if your a resort......figure out trash management for you customers. They showed up and are using the services you provide. A simple $5 tagged onto a road fee with avalible dumpsters could solve the problem. I actually have never had any issues with trash on my trips....so I'm a bit supprised by all this. I mean people are going through the resorts for services and willing to pay. If $5 was a deal breaker.....then why wouldn't people just go out of the public acess points, and not pay any resort fees.

 

The first 7yrs the guide we use had a trailer on the lake and had his customers throw tied off bags of trash in it. Then he disposed of it. The last three years with my shack the resort we went out of had a dumpster to throw the trash in. I'd gone out of JR's Access, West Winds, and Rogers. When We came off the lake we stopped in and asked if we could throw our trash away....they always said yeah put it in the dumpster. 

 

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kelly-p
20 hours ago, Agronomist_at_IA said:

I find this entire thread and topic somewhat laughable. The locals and resorts seem to complain about an issue they've brought upon themselves.

  What you are forgetting about is that a very, very small percentage of the people living in Beltrami County make any money from the fishermen on URL. Many of the people making money off the fishermen on URL do not even live in Beltrami County. But ALL residents of Beltrami County have to pay to clean up the garbage left by the fishermen. If a person owns property on the shore of URL how do you suppose they feel about having to continually be picking garbage up off from the beach? If a person lives 10 miles from URL how do you suppose they feel about having to pick up the garbage from the highway ditch in front of their home?

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Agronomist_at_IA
8 minutes ago, kelly-p said:

  What you are forgetting about is that a very, very small percentage of the people living in Beltrami County make any money from the fishermen on URL. Many of the people making money off the fishermen on URL do not even live in Beltrami County. But ALL residents of Beltrami County have to pay to clean up the garbage left by the fishermen. If a person owns property on the shore of URL how do you suppose they feel about having to continually be picking garbage up off from the beach? If a person lives 10 miles from URL how do you suppose they feel about having to pick up the garbage from the highway ditch in front of their home?

 

Kelly come on....I live by the Iowa Great Lakes.......and can say the exact same thing you posted. While people may not directly make money from them....money is being spent and brought into the county which was not generated in the county helping the county and people in the county. 

 

I get the "trash issue " no matter what is done people will litter. It will never stop. It needs to be managed, the situation isn't unquie to Upper Red, it's just not managed at upper red like it should be. 

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