Braided line with fleuro leader

[jramsber]

How do people generally attach their leaders to their braided main line? Tying directly together or using a barrel swivel. The applications would be vertical jigging and pitching plastics. Thanks!

[eyeguy 54]

I think most tie a uni not.  I just use a tiny barrel and tie on 3 feet of low vis trilene xt. mainly for throwing sticks and tubes in the river. 

[gunner55]

Back to back uni's for me but I use some 6 lb braid,so I double that up using a surgeons knot.

[Kyhl]

I use a small barrel swivel partly for ease of use, mainly to reduce line twist.  Look through the swivel section.  You can find some very small swivels rated at 35lbs.

I also use flouro for lindy and bottom bouncer snells tied to braid.

[oldschool71]

I like using the barrel swivels myself.

[hydro]

Do a search for "Alberto's knot" and watch the video clip. It basically ties the fluoro around a loop of the braid. Easy, simple and strong. I will never tie the uni knot or surgeon's knot again for this purpose.

Edited May 20, 2015 by hydro

[Tom Sawyer]

It depends, if I'm fishing with something that I know is going to spin my line, I'll tie in a swivel. Otherwise, I like the Albright. Adding a drop of adhesive helps keep down the tag ends, allowing them to go through the rod guides smoothly.

http://www.animatedknots.com/albright/index.php?Categ=fishing

[eyeguy 54]

that looks easier to remember than the uni. good info. 

[Long Gray Line]

Uni to uni is a good one, but once I learned the Alberto it's been nothing but. I've never had one let go.

[Tom Sawyer]

I will give the Alberto knot a try hydro and Long Gray Line, it looks good.

 

 

 

 

 

[Chris Haley]

I'm still on the uni to uni train.  I checked out both the Albright and alberto knots you guys posted and though they definitely look easier to tie, they both leave that loop bent up on the one end.  You guys that use those knots.  Does that affect your casting distance?  I use braid on everything now.  The uni to uni casts very well, even with a 1/16 oz jig.

[hydro]

Chris, the Alberto knot ties down smaller than the uni knot, and makes casting easier. Give it a try.

[Tom Sawyer]

Tried your knot hydro and Chris. It's a winner!

[Chris Haley]

Well, I guess the only way to find out for myself is to give it a try this weekend.  Good fishing guys!!

[MSRiverdog]

Looks easier and faster than a barrel or uni.

[jramsber]

I like the look if the Alberto. I always used the double uni but found it cumbersome. Thanks for all the input!

[Borch]

I run small swivels on rods that I jig with to help with lune twist.  This is definitely a need when jigging plastics.   Otherwise the Albright knot works well for me.

For those with smart phones the knot wars app is a nice one with great illistrations and knot strength info for different line types.

[my4x4yj]

I liked the look of the Alberto knot and gave it a try this past week and it worked great, I also use braid on everything with the fluorocarbon leaders and have absolutely no complaints. I did find it easier to tighten if I moistened the lines as I always do with other knots.

[IceIceBaby]

I used to use a small barrel swivel...mostly because I was intimidated by tying a good know line to line.  I always  hated it when the barrel would hit the line guides.  It can't be good for the guide.  I've had one of these tools for a year or so, but only decided to try it yesterday when I put new line on a couple of my bait caster reels.   It's so easy that I kick myself in the butt for not trying it before.  You can get them cheap (usually less than $5 on ebay).  I used the tiefast tool to splice braid to fluro in the second knot  shown in this video.

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2015 by Rick

[Chris Haley]

Chock up another convert from the uni - uni to Albright knot!!!  Much quicker to tie and stood up to numerous fish over the weekend!

[mwal]

The modified albright knot has beaten the back to back uni knot in every test in every show or publication. I switched years ago. It is very rare that it breaks at the knot I make 6 to 8 ft flouro leaders and only retie if they get down to 2 ft or so from cutting and re tying lures on. I use it with Nanofill on my dropshot rod and make the leader 10 or 12 ft long as the knot is so smooth it can be reeled onto spool and you can still cast with it.

 

Mwal

[BobT]

I've been using the uni-uni for a couple years for tying mono or fluorocarbon leaders onto Fireline and Nanofil with great success but I might have to give the Albright a try.

Edited May 29, 2015 by BobT

[garage_logician]

Wow, great info.  My old knot was much more difficult to tie.  

Thanks everyone!

[Tom Sawyer]

The Albright is an old knot, I thought most already knew........

[djhoel]

The FG knot is the strongest and goes through the guides smother than an albright.

http://www.saltstrong.com/articles/fg-knot/

[BobT]

I've been using the uni-uni for a couple years for tying mono or fluorocarbon leaders onto Fireline and Nanofil with great success but I might have to give the Albright a try.

​Well, I just got back from our annual walleye trip to Canada and I gave the Albright knot a try.  I was using it on two different rods.  One was loaded with 8# Fireline and the other with 8# Nanofil.  To each I attached 8# Trilene XL leaders.  When I tie my leaders I always wet the line to lubricate as I do know this is particularly important with Nanofil.  I did notice that when I got snagged and was forced to break the line, the leaders tied on using the Albright knot broke at the knot whereas, the ones using the uni-uni broke at the jig.  This was noticeable and repeatable enough that I switched back to using the uni-uni knot for tying on my leaders.

[delcecchi]

interesting. 

[wormdunker]

I can confirm a very similar finding with the Alberto knot.  50lb braid to 20b Seaguar floro, the line seems to break above the knot.  Today I had 2 lines break on the top edge of the Alberto knot.  It was nice and quiet and went through the guides great but It is not a good knot to use in situations where you have sharp hard hook sets, flipping bass jigs.

I was hopeful the knot would be good due to how smooth it came through the guides.  Oh well back to the old standby, uni to uni.