Strib Article: New Study Sheds Light on Wolves, Moose

[TylerS]

I'll just leave this right here: Are Wolves to Blame for Fewer Minnesota Moose?

[Bear55]

Well when they run out of deer they will find something else to chase, deer numbers in the NE were crashing back in 2008.

[leech~~]

I'll just leave this right here: Are Wolves to Blame for Fewer Minnesota Moose?

So, after a lot of years and money spent they came to the same conclusion hunters and farmers have been telling them for year!

[B. Amish]

Ontarios Moose declining too:

http://news.ontario.ca/mnr/en/2014/04/ontario-reducing-moose-tags-for-2014.html

[B. Amish]

Manitoba also concerned:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/Moose-hunting-ban-expanded-in-western-Manitoba-273241901.html

[ClownColor]

I thought the best part about this was that they still need to do more research. It would suck to actually "complete" a study and not have a job any more.

[leech~~]

Ontarios Moose declining too:

http://news.ontario.ca/mnr/en/2014/04/ontario-reducing-moose-tags-for-2014.html

What where's the Climate change in their list of decline reasons?

They don't know what their doing!

[leech~~]

Manitoba also concerned:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/Moose-hunting-ban-expanded-in-western-Manitoba-273241901.html

What, no talk about Climate change either, but they did say it maybe the Wolfs. So they know a little about what they are doing!

[BuckSutherland]

Are Wolves to Blame for Fewer Minnesota Moose?

Ya think. And I dont need to blow millions on a study and several years to figure it out.

[laker1]

I disagree,I think the study is a good one,and yes wolves are a factor,but when you see numerous moose for a few years in a row with no hair due too excessive tick infestation due to warm winters,many of these moose also died.

Yes I also seen wolves work in a area for moose also.

Also the DNR had a deer study back in 1995-1997 where like winter of 1995-96 90% of the fawns died because of the hard winter, yes wolves ate good,but majority of dead deer were untouched,friends and I found over 20 dead deer just curled up and not fed on.

Nature has many punches,yes wolves is one of them and also hunters also is one of them when we over harvest.

[Fever]

Much more complicated than a simple predator / prey relationship. It has much to do with climate change 1st and foremost and this IS the main factor for low deer numbers in the north, then secondary impacts are the food that depends directly on the climate itself then.... predators like Black Bear, Coyotes and Wolves. Coyotes and Bear probably account for more white tailed deer calf mortality state wide than the wolves do but people LOVE to bi##Ch about the wolf. They (we) have for thousands of years as a matter of fact. (wolves are just soooo easy for the simple to blame because they are visible, highly publicized, news worthy, discussion worthy, recently managed and a success story, and they happen to have been interjected as the villain in many of our childhood fairy-tales. After human impacts and manipulation of environment, pressure, hunting, deer vehicle collisions etc THEN comes - predator prey relationships like Bear, Coyote, and wolf - then comes - disease, parasitism - food source availability and carrying capacity of ecosystem, quality and availability of shelter from elements, cold and deep snow, but, the thing is - all of this and more is included on the list of things that effect deer populations and any ecological population study - is exceptionally difficult due to vast size and number of variables - and rarely is a single definitive conclusion arrived.

Just WAY easier to say - Its cuz of the wolves and move on. Human nature guys.

[delcecchi]

Uh, folks be talking about moose, not deer. Cold winter, deep snow etc don't seem to be an issue with moose.

And please please don't confuse climate with weather. Deer are affected by weather more than climate.

[laker1]

Studies in the 70's showed bear average about 3 deer a year,and mostly fawns shortly after birth. Even male Fischer averaged 0.5 deer per year.

In many deer populations with established territories, a wolf pack will take between 2-3 deer per sq. mile on average. A territory many times is 36 sq. miles or so.

I think bobcat was like 1 deer per year.

[leech~~]

Studies in the 70's showed bear average about 3 deer a year,and mostly fawns shortly after birth. Even male Fischer averaged 0.5 deer per year.

In many deer populations with established territories, a wolf pack will take between 2-3 deer per sq. mile on average. A territory many times is 36 sq. miles or so.

I think bobcat was like 1 deer per year.

Strib Article: New Study Sheds Light on Wolves, Moose

[creepworm]

Much more complicated than a simple predator / prey relationship. It has much to do with climate change 1st and foremost and this IS the main factor for low deer numbers in the north, then secondary impacts are the food that depends directly on the climate itself then.... predators like Black Bear, Coyotes and Wolves. Coyotes and Bear probably account for more white tailed deer calf mortality state wide than the wolves do but people LOVE to bi##Ch about the wolf. They (we) have for thousands of years as a matter of fact. (wolves are just soooo easy for the simple to blame because they are visible, highly publicized, news worthy, discussion worthy, recently managed and a success story, and they happen to have been interjected as the villain in many of our childhood fairy-tales. After human impacts and manipulation of environment, pressure, hunting, deer vehicle collisions etc THEN comes - predator prey relationships like Bear, Coyote, and wolf - then comes - disease, parasitism - food source availability and carrying capacity of ecosystem, quality and availability of shelter from elements, cold and deep snow, but, the thing is - all of this and more is included on the list of things that effect deer populations and any ecological population study - is exceptionally difficult due to vast size and number of variables - and rarely is a single definitive conclusion arrived.

Just WAY easier to say - Its cuz of the wolves and move on. Human nature guys.

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