Jump to content
  • GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

Bye Cassel


Scott M

Recommended Posts

Here comes Matt Schaub or Michael Vick or McCown(sp?).

PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN IF OUR ONLY OTHER OPTION IS PONDER!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

McNown isn't a bad option, sure a bit older but he's good in the pocket (versus Ponder) Vick probably would be like McNabb............so he can stay far away from us.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Norv will keep Freeman. I still say that is the only reason they kept him on the squad as inactive for the length of the season...

Good Luck!

Ken

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Need a QB with a strong arm as good as our defense is, we be throwing it from behind quite often, I've often wondered why AP can't catch the ball, we all see what Reggie Bush or Darren Sproles or Percy Harvin or Welker or whoever can do when it gets in their hands quickly with some room to make a guy miss, 1st down you bet or more, it isn't like these passes are gunned in there or cover much more than 5-10 yards my god a world class athlete should be able to catch a soft little flicked pass, we need that otherwise he's just not an option when we drop back or go shotgun. QB is an issue, put the time into a young guy or go with an aging vet who is just wasting the young guys playing time, like the twins, time to regroup.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I still think there is a strong probability that Cassel returns to the Vikings. By voiding the last year year he can negotiate more years and more money. Of all the free agent QBs on the market he is probably the best fit for the Vikings and the Vikings are probably the best fit for Cassel.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Norv will keep Freeman. I still say that is the only reason they kept him on the squad as inactive for the length of the season...

Good Luck!

Ken

Its not up to us to keep Freeman. Freeman is a free agent so its up to him if he wants to resign with the vikings. Really it made no sense to hang on to Freeman. We paid the guy to ride the bench when we would have owed him nothing if we cut him. Basically just gave him free money and then let him walk away at the end of the year.

Letting him walk is fine with me, i just think they could have saved some money and let him walk after his one miserable start.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You are correct... He does not have to remain a Viking... I just think Lil' Ricky has a thing for him, so I wouldn't doubt that he was kept on the squad to give them the first stab at re-signing him...

Good Luck!

Ken

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wouldn't be suprised if Casell told the Vikes to G F Y's. If you were him, would you believe anything they had to say at this point?

The only news I'm interested in hearing from VikingLand is that Ponder has been released....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very true, with all of Ponder's struggles you would have thought that Cassell would have been the Starter for many more games than he was. Those mysterious injuries just kept keeping him down.....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wow. Truly a sad state of MN QB's if folks are this upset to see Cassel released... I wonder how many KC fans read this forum and are laughing their keesters off at reactions like "He's the best fit for the vikings!"

Freeman never had a fair shot here in a game. That's not to say he would have been any good later on, just simply stating he wasn't given a fair shot in a game. I'm wondering if they're not trying to develop him somehow. He has raw talent, that's for sure. He's also a head case and lacks work ethic allegedly, so that's not exactly encouraging, and doesn't do much to help 'development.'

I dunno. Like I said. Truly a sad state of MN QBeez.

At least there's no possibility of Cutler coming here. Before he signed with Chi-town I was scared we'd reach for him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think the fact that Cassel opted out, pretty much locks the Vikings into moving up in the draft and taking a QB. I like Manziel, and Bridgewater. I think Borltes could become a decent starter as well.

I was thinking if they kept Cassel, they may go after Watkins, with their 1st round pick. That would give any QB a couple really nice WR's, and a good RB to cover his butt. Take a QB with their second pick, then use the rest to fill in our defense. Complete the team with FA's, we will have plenty of cap space to spend on some decent FA's this off season.

You never know, Cassel may just resign with the Vikings for 2 years for more money.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Cassel is going nowhere. He just wants to be paid like a starter. He's got all the leverage here- there is no way the vikings will go into next season with Ponder as the number 1 unless they want to lose half of the fan base. I don't think they want to select a QB at #8 nor do they want to trade up. Cassel will resign with the vikes for a couple years at about 3 some million per.... thats my prediction.

And the vikes will select defense with their first pick and either trade back into the late first to get a QB or take one in the second rd.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Talk about overreaction Monday on a Wednesday.

This is a positional move for Cassel for sure. If he is going to be a starter, he wants to be paid like one. This by no means he will not be a Viking next year, but the chance is there. He wasnt exactly sought after last year and I dont think he did anything to garner a lot of attention this year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

He knows there are very few quality free agent qb's on the market this off-season. If he can get the same money or more elsewhere why wouldn't he leave....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 'we have more fun' FishingMN Creators

My bet is Cassel messed up on this move or the Vikes told him they wouldn't pay that much for a back-up QB (even through they could have waited) and both kept it on the down low as it is in both parties interest to not disclose and he will end up signing for less.

Do you think Turner might be intrigued by Freeman? Depending on how the draft falls if they don't get the QB they want early we will see 1. Freeman, 2. Cassel or god forbid..Ponder starting until a QB they draft is ready...unless Freeman can pull it off under Turner's guidance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I really don't think Ponder has much of a shot of even being Rostered with the Vikes... with Frazier gone there isn't anyone really pulling for him. I don't think Slick Rick cares for him that much either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

To be honest, I think Cassel wants starter money, he knows the FA class this year is weak, and chances are someone will take a chance at him, since he had a decent year last season. I am thinking the Vikings want Cassel back, and Cassel will more then happily come back for a 2-3 year deal at 4-5 million per year. Knowingly he will be starting. More then likely for it to work out, it would have to have a team option after the first year, since Cassel will only be here for a mentor, and a teacher to Johny Manziel after we draft him in May smile

I am thinking Ponder will turn into a 7th round pick for us. I think some team out there will trade us, and we will take anything, including a jock strap for him, if we cant find any takers, he will be cut.

As for Freeman, I would sign him to training camp, with no guaranteed contract, or with out a roster spot, if he looks good, keep him as a back up, if not, he can go chuck balls in the the audience in some other stadium.

Ideally we draft Manziel with our 8th pick, Cassel signs a 2 year deal, and starts this year, and Manziel takes over next year, with Cassel mentoring him on the bench next year. Cassel is a smart QB, and I think he has what it takes to mentor a rookie.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Man I hope other teams out there think Cassel had a decent year last year and want to pay him a starters salary. I for one do not think he had a decent year. He had a less terrible year than Ponder had, would be more how I'd phrase it.

I'd much rather see the vikes go for McCown... if he's an option even.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would have no problem with McCown, but how much money and what kind of contract is he going to want after the year he had? Are we looking to sign a guy to mentor another rookie for a year or sign someone to play for several years? Those are questions any free agent qb is going to be asking, including the 2 who were here last year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I can't believe people care much about Cassel, yeah he was better out of him and Ponder but that is not saying much. After watching Ponder for awhile any QB that can complete a few passes in a row and put a few points on the board looks great even though they are really mediocre. He only threw for 200 yds a game with 11 TD's and 9 INT's.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Quote:
Minnesota Vikings' quarterback Matt Cassel said that in 2013, the unstable nature of the position was unsettling. Not knowing who would be the starter from week to week made getting ready for games difficult.

However, he decided to return to the team to work with new offensive coordinator and QB guru Norv Turner in the fold, and a new $10 million two-year contract.

Cassel doesn't expect a repeat of 2013 and he expects to be the starter from day one.

"That's my mentality, absolutely," Cassel said, Brian Murphy of TwinCities.com.

"I go in with the expectation to be the starter -- and that won't change. At the same time, you still have to go out there and prove it and compete, knowing there's going to be two other quarterbacks, maybe three other quarterbacks."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • mulefarm
      With the early ice out, how is the curlyleaf pondweed doing?
    • LakeofthewoodsMN
      On the south end...   The big basin, otherwise known as Big Traverse Bay, is ice free.  Zippel Bay and Four Mile Bay are ice free as well.  Everything is shaping up nicely for the MN Fishing Opener on May 11th. With the walleye / sauger season currently closed, most anglers are targeting sturgeon and pike.  Some sturgeon anglers are fishing at the mouth of the Rainy River, but most sturgeon are targeted in Four Mile Bay or the Rainy River.  Hence, pike are the targeted species on the south shore and various bays currently.   Pike fishing this time of year is a unique opportunity, as LOW is border water with Canada, the pike season is open year round. The limit is 3 pike per day with one being able to be more than 40 inches. All fish 30 - 40 inches must be released. Back bays hold pike as they go through the various stages of the spawn.  Deadbait under a bobber, spinners, spoons and shallow diving crankbaits are all viable options.   Four Mile Bay, Bostic Bay and Zippel Bay are all small water and boats of various sizes work well. On the Rainy River...  Great news this week as we learned sturgeon will not be placed on the endangered species list by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.     The organization had to make a decision by June 30 and listing sturgeon could have ended sturgeon fishing.  Thankfully, after looking at the many success stories across the nation, including LOW and the Rainy River, sturgeon fishing and successful sturgeon management continues.   A good week sturgeon fishing on the Rainy River.  Speaking to some sturgeon aficionados, fishing will actually get even better as water temps rise.     Four Mile Bay at the mouth of the Rainy River near the Wheeler's Point Boat Ramp is still producing good numbers of fish, as are various holes along the 42 miles of navigable Rainy River from the mouth to Birchdale.   The sturgeon season continues through May 15th and resumes again July 1st.   Oct 1 - April 23, Catch and Release April 24 - May 7, Harvest Season May 8 - May 15, Catch and Release May 16 - June 30, Sturgeon Fishing Closed July 1 - Sep 30, Harvest Season If you fish during the sturgeon harvest season and you want to keep a sturgeon, you must purchase a sturgeon tag for $5 prior to fishing.    One sturgeon per calendar year (45 - 50" inclusive, or over 75"). Most sturgeon anglers are either a glob of crawlers or a combo of crawlers and frozen emerald shiners on a sturgeon rig, which is an 18" leader with a 4/0 circle hook combined with a no roll sinker.  Local bait shops have all of the gear and bait. Up at the NW Angle...  A few spots with rotten ice, but as a rule, most of the Angle is showing off open water.  In these parts, most are looking ahead to the MN Fishing Opener.  Based on late ice fishing success, it should be a good one.  
    • leech~~
      Nice fish. I moved to the Sartell area last summer and just thought it was windy like this everyday up here? 🤭
    • Rick G
      Crazy windy again today.... This is has been the norm this spring. Between the wind and the cold fronts, fishing has been more challenging for me than most years.  Panfish have been moving in and out of the shallows quite a bit. One day they are up in the slop, the next they are out relating to cabbage or the newly sprouting lilly pads.  Today eye guy and I found them in 4-5 ft of water, hanging close to any tree branches that happened to be laying in the water.  Bigger fish were liking a 1/32 head and a Bobby Garland baby shad.   Highlight of the day way this healthy 15incher
    • monstermoose78
    • monstermoose78
      As I typed that here came a hen.  IMG_7032.mov   IMG_7032.mov
    • monstermoose78
      So far this morning nothing but non turkeys. 
    • monstermoose78
      Well yesterday I got a little excited and let a turkey get to close and I hit the blind!!
    • smurfy
      good......you?? living the dream..in my basement playing internet thug right now!!!!!! 🤣 working on getting the boat ready.......bought a new cheatmaster locator for the boat so working on that.   waiting for warmer weather to start my garden!!!
    • monstermoose78
      How is everyone doing? Holy moly it’s chilly this morning I stayed in bed and will hunt later today when it warms up.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.