Manziel Debate

[DrJuice1980]

Weird that Luck, RGIII, and many others with the same football hype werent caught "advertising" themselves at clubs, after parties, pool side in LV, hanging with Beiber, etc.

JM has the right to do all those things, no question. It doesnt mean its smart of him to act in the manner that he does being who he is (smart as in smart for his football career). I dont know how he is but its obvious he is attention starved. He has to get it from somewhere, it sure aint coming from being a 2nd string QB on the Browns...

Maybe even he knows he better prepare himself for life after football, thats the whole point of his character.

Paris Hilton is to Actress as Johnny Manziel is to NFL QB.

[PurpleFloyd]

Quick question- what are Johnny Football's bel career stats? Are they good or bad?

[Big Dave2]

Quick question- what are Johnny Football's bel career stats? Are they good or bad?

bel?

[PurpleFloyd]

Quick question- what are Johnny Football's bel career stats? Are they good or bad?

[FISHINGURU]

Maybe even he knows he better prepare himself for life after football, thats the whole point of his character.

Paris Hilton is to Actress as Johnny Manziel is to NFL QB.

Oh great, so we have to hear Johnny Foosball become a singer in the next few yrs

[CaptainMusky]

Oh great, so we have to hear Johnny Foosball become a singer in the next few yrs

That and I certainly dont want to see one of his sex tapes.

[FISHINGURU]

What's Ol' Johnny Foosball and the Browns been up to lately??

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At a time when the Johnny Manziel story should start to focus almost solely on football, some members of the Browns organization have turned it into another examination of his off-field life.

Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer wrote a story, citing anonymous Browns sources, saying the team is "alarmed" by his actions since the draft. Manziel has been seen at various parties this offseason. The story said the team was worried enough about a photo of Manziel apparently rolling up a $20 bill that coach Mike Pettine told Cabot that he called the rookie quarterback from his vacation in Hawaii to get answers. The Plain Dealer pointed out that tight-rolled bills are often used for drug use, although there was no evidence in the photo that's what Manziel was doing, Pettine reached out to ask him about it. According to the story, Pettine said he planned to address it again with Manziel face-to-face when he reported for camp with the other rookies on Wednesday.

It isn't just the one photo, either. The Browns sources who talked to Cabot said the team was promised by Manziel before the draft that he would tone down his partying, and the Browns have been "stunned by his non-stop antics" since they took him.

This is a big story for a few reasons. Cabot is one of the best and most respected voices on the Browns beat, so there's little doubt to the legitimacy of what she wrote. Also, take into account the timing and purpose of the story. The Browns knew the talk of Manziel's actions off the field would take a back seat to his quarterback competition with Brian Hoyer once training camp started. The Browns could have easily been quiet about their off-field satisfaction and let the narrative change to Manziel's progress as a player. The sources speaking to Cabot had to know how her story would play out, and they're likely aware that it would put the spotlight back on Manziel's partying on the day the Browns report to camp, when the media attention is high. Instead of protecting their young quarterback, some sources within the Browns set out to do the opposite. It has been less than three months since the Browns took Manziel with the 22nd overall pick, and some within the organization are already seemingly taking a combative stance with the former Heisman winner.

And, there was a troubling football aspect to the story too. The story said Manziel "regressed in practice after the first week of organized team activities," and the team thinks he wasn't dedicated enough to learning the playbook because he was flying around the country and partying. The story said he has already lost ground in the quarterback competition before camp starts.

Manziel has tremendous talent, which is why the Browns took him in the first place. His partying became a big story at Texas A&M, and he still was one of the greatest quarterbacks in college football history his two seasons there. All of this might blow over because Manziel gets his chance in the preseason and dominates on the field.

But as Browns camp starts, the team's dissatisfaction with their rookie quarterback is in the spotlight. It seems like a message is being sent.

[CaptainMusky]

Just like I said, if he would focus ALL of his efforts on his craft, he could possibly forge out an NFL career, but the way he acts he will have a fiery demise.

I aplaud the coaching staff for reaching out and calling him to the table about the actions. Perhaps they can stop it before it gets too bad, but he has done it for years, why change?

[hnd]

man i'm glad my years in my early 20's wasn't well documented. buncha saints up in here.

[CaptainMusky]

man i'm glad my years in my early 20's wasn't well documented. buncha saints up in here.

Sure, but did you stand to make Millions of dollars doing something where your career may only last 10 years?

[traveler]

I have not a thing to say about some Cleveland 2nd string QB...I just couldn't resist being the 1,000th post on the subject:)

[hnd]

Sure, but did you stand to make Millions of dollars doing something where your career may only last 10 years?

no but i also wasn't born into dump loads of money and he's gonna make millions regardless of whether he goes to the club or not. hell, he can knock out a woman, beat up strippers, and allegedly rape and still stand to make millions. as long as he doesn't smoke the ganja though.

[Slabasaurus]

hell, he can knock out a woman, beat up strippers, and allegedly rape and still stand to make millions.

Goood news for Jameis Winston!

[CaptainMusky]

as long as he doesn't smoke the ganja though.

Just so you know you dont smoke the ganja through a rolled up bill.

[Big Dave2]

[FISHINGURU]

What a slicer!! What a dicer!!

Hopefully he can learn to take snaps under center and when he runs not to lead with his head. He'll take a pounding and get concussions doing that all game.

[fishersofmen]

The kid has star written all over him. He is fearless and full of confidence and it shows.

[PierBridge]

I have not a thing to say about some Cleveland 2nd string QB...I just couldn't resist being the 1,000th post on the subject:)

He wont be 2nd string for long. If not by the opener 2nd game for sure Jonny Football will be starting $$$

[CaptainMusky]

"On a pass thrown by QB Johnny Manziel to WR Anthony Armstrong, Haden ripped the ball away from Armstrong for an interception. "

"It was QB Johnny Manziel's turn to run the first-team offense again on Tuesday, but QB Brian Hoyer out-performed him with the second-team offense."

[DrJuice1980]

So is landing the starting QB job in "Cleveland" the apex of his career? So all you JM jock sniffers are going to be all like "look, hes a starter in the NFL, he is legit man!" As in legit on a 3-13 squad? You guys are sorry, the kid isn't going to be good just watch. He's put 3 points on the board in preseason.

[Big Dave2]

To prove my point he will only have to be better than Bridgewater. Looks like that's not going to be hard.

[fishersofmen]

No doubt.

[CaptainMusky]

And what's that point? The way you have sniffed his jock we would believe he was the next coming of Christ he better be far better than Bridgewater, luck, manning or Brady otherwise what's all the hype?

[Big Dave2]

And what's that point? The way you have sniffed his jock we would believe he was the next coming of Christ he better be far better than Bridgewater, luck, manning or Brady otherwise what's all the hype?

There was no hype. There was only me being right again and telling you who the best QB pick in the draft would have been for the Vikings. Oh and there was also YOU being wrong.

[zepman]

^^^LOL^^^

I'm glad you all have this QB draft class pegged after their 1st pre-season game.

You just can't make this stuff up....

[FISHINGURU]

It is pretty funny, I can't wait to see how it all turns out. More then likely the best QB in this draft wasn't even talked about.

As far as comparing this is what I see so far.

Takes off running....Foosball

Scans the field.....Teddy

Most rookie QB's feel more comfortable taking off running then scanning the field, I'm glad to see Teddy going through his progressions, there was one play where I wish he had ran but he kept rolling out looking for an open guy instead.

[CaptainMusky]

Right, JM ran for a nominal gain in the Browns first game when he had a wide open receiver right in front of him. He has displayed very typical rookie QB characteristics for sure.

[PierBridge]

Sounds like there is some overreaction here on both sides of the Manziel debate#...

[CaptainMusky]

For all the talk big Dave had leading to the draft JM better throw for 4000 yard run for 900 and take the browns to the Superbowl. Just "being a better QB than teddy" would be a tremendous disappointment.

[Big Dave2]

For all the talk big Dave had leading to the draft JM better throw for 4000 yard run for 900 and take the browns to the Superbowl. Just "being a better QB than teddy" would be a tremendous disappointment.

The tremendous disappointment will be Teddy Bridgewater. You can try to spin this any way you want to but the truth is, this has always been about which QB the Vikings should select in the draft. Looks like they made the wrong choice again. Two words: Darrin Nelson.