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His show me the money act after scores left me sour to him. He will get drafted for big bucks and flame out like so many freelancing college QB's. wait until he has to read a big time D and get chased by D ends that are faster than him. shocked

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wait until he has to read a big time D and get chased by D ends that are faster than him. shocked

Yes, because no other QB in the NFL has to read a defense or gets chased by defensive ends. crazy

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Anyone else hear what Ron Jaworski had to say about the little boy today??

It was like a parent telling a kid why they had to go in a timeout.

Manziel blows.

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His show me the money act after scores left me sour to him. He will get drafted for big bucks and flame out like so many freelancing college QB's. wait until he has to read a big time D and get chased by D ends that are faster than him. shocked

Considering Manziel ran a 4.68 40 at the combine, the list of DE faster than him will be preeeeeeetty short. The guy shredded the best defenses he faced in college (well, he sunk vs LSU) including Alabama teams with plenty of pro prospects. What more could he have done at this point (besides not be a dooosh off the field)?

Let me guess, you would like a smarter, pro-system QB. Someone ready to plug in and play. Someone like...Ponder...was supposed to be coming out of college. crazy

I'm not at all convinced that Manziel will be a star, but I think The people who have written him off, based on....nothing, really, are jumping the gun just a tad.

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I'm not at all convinced that Manziel will be a star, but I think The people who have written him off, based on....nothing, really, are jumping the gun just a tad.

Next to physical capabilities character is the biggest thing scouts/coaches look at in these kids. Why else would the spend so much time and money invested in administering interviews and tests. There are red flags with him, but there are red flags with many of the others as well. He isnt the only one with "character" issues. If forced to select between Clowney and Manziel i would take Manziel just because he may have flaws but he works his butt off. Clowney has tons of talent, but seems like the Randy Moss of DE's.
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I'd take the Randy Moss if any position given the output his first 5-6 yrs in league. That's a winning pick right there.

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I would take either in a heartbeat. Clowney slacked a few plays at the end of the season, to avoid an injury, and effect his pay day. Manziel's attitude of greed, I find disgusting, but he is just cocky. He has great leadership over his team, I could see him coming in and being the leader on the field.

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Anyone else hear what Ron Jaworski had to say about the little boy today??

It was like a parent telling a kid why they had to go in a timeout.

Manziel blows.

I didn't hear anything except Jaws said Manzeil didn't impress him. Was there more? How about a link? Sorry I work for a living.

BTW I was never too impressed with Ron Jaworski either.

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Word on the street is the Raiders like Carr more then Manziel. If that is the case it would be more likely one of the top 3 would slide to us, possibly Johnny.

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Doesn't it always seem like its Oakland that sets the entire draft board on its side?

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A mock draft fresh off the presses from CBSsports has Johnny Football landing at #8!

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A mock draft fresh off the presses from CBSsports has Johnny Football landing at #8!

Sweet!

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doesn't pay, too short. will be a total bust in the NFL. hands will freeze off in the cold the next two years anyway

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That same espn mock had us taking Gilbert. I'd take that. Gilbert, Mack, and Donald will be the best of this draft class.

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The fact that Fran wants to pimp him makes me dislike him even more. Not his fault on that one but I've had way too much Fran lately. The guy needs to shut up! On everything.

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NFL Network's Mike Mayock was impressed with Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel's Pro Day.

Pro Days rarely change the opinion of an experienced evaluator, but can highlight concerns. Mayock said that wasn't the case with Manziel. "He can make every throw mechanically," Mayock said. "His arm strength is on par with that of (UCF QB Blake) Bortles. He had that beautiful spontaneity on the run and he's confirmed many things. He's not opening up questions for me like (Louisville QB Teddy) Bridgewater did." Johnny Football is receiving universally positive reviews for his performance in College Station, but it's a bigger story when a player doesn't ace his Pro Day, like Bridgewater.

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The Bears and Browns were the only two teams absent from Johnny Manziel's Thursday Pro Day.

They missed a show, as Manziel impressed as he threw in shoulder pads. He made a believer of noted skeptic Ron Jaworski, prompting Jaws to proclaim he'd now be comfortable selecting the former Heisman winner in the first three rounds. NFL teams' opinions are far less malleable, but Johnny Football did what he needed to do on Thursday. Questions about Manziel's ability to drive the ball are going to persist, but he only needs one team to fall in love in the first round. The Browns' absence from Manziel's Pro Day is notable, but they're expected to conduct a private workout with the A&M signal caller.

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Johnny football going to dinner Thursday with Viking brass. Them meeting personell on Friday. Smokescreen or are the vikes interested? I cant see him falling to 8 so maybe they are thinking of tradeing up. If he does drop to 8 hope we grab him I personally like the kid he really has potential.

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He's a rock-star and no way in he** makes it to #8.

Houston might take him but if they don't, I believe the Jags will at 3. He'll become the instant "face" of the Jags franchise...something they have lacked almost forever.

Trade up to 2 and get er done!!

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Bortles will go #1 to Houston. Manziel will go #3 to the Jags and we will take Bustwater at number 8 and be back here in 3 years debating which QB we should take in that draft.

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Bortles will go #1 to Houston. Manziel will go #3 to the Jags and we will take Bustwater at number 8 and be back here in 3 years debating which QB we should take in that draft.

I could definantly see that happening.....

Unless Manziel is there at 8, I WANT DEFENSE

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I''m guessing Houston takes Manziel at 1 and the Queens end up taking a QB later in the draft.

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Bortles will go #1 to Houston. Manziel will go #3 to the Jags and we will take Bustwater at number 8 and be back here in 3 years debating which QB we should take in that draft.

Exactly. While Manziel is tearing up the league we will get stuck with another shmuck. I saw him do the QB camp with Gruden today and now I want him even more. Limit has been dead on with this guy all along.

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