Strikemaster Exhaust Extension

[danny berg]

Does anyone have one of these? Does it work good? I need some feedback before spending 50 bucks on one...

Thank You

[IcePro]

What Strike Master do you own.

They only will work on 2hp motors / Not 3hp motors.

They do not fit on the current 2hp Lazer Mags. The handles interfer with the exhuast tube attaching to the muffler.

Even though Strike Master makes the product it will fit on a Jiffy 2hp.

If you have a new auger and attach the exhaust kit to the your auger your warranty will be void from Tescmeh. Any alteratons to the emmisions will void your warranty.

Before you buy the exhaust kit make sure it fits your unit. (Double check it)

[Daveo]

It does fit the new 2 hp ,,,IF you cut half of the little kick stand out.
I talked to the strike master reps just yesterday at the show and they said it does not void your warenty.

I put mine on and it looks like it will work out just fine. I think i paid $30.00 for mine at thorne bro's. ask for pat he orderd them.

good luck
DaveO

[tightlines]

Hey Daveo: What did strikemaster say about cutting part of the kick stand off.I just got mine Friday and noticed that it won't fit without cutting out the stand. Funny, because I told the guy at strikemaster what model I had and he said nothing about it needing to be modified to fit.

[danny berg]

I have 2 older Magnum III's, one 7" and one 8", both are 2 HP so the exhaust extension should fit. I use the 8" in the permanant house,where I want to intstall the exhaust extension. And the 7" I take on the road,when I use the portable, or one of my fishing buddies will borrow it. Plus it is always nice to have a backup, if needed.

[Daveo]

Tightlines,,, they told me to cut the kickstand out...and said that it would be ok...

dont have to worry about voiding any kind of warenty.

witch is good cuz i had already done it....

what kind of oil are you goning to use in your auger? ive decided on amzoil..not sure why just am..

DaveO

[tightlines]

Daveo: I bought some of strikemasters smokeless oil. I don't know why they call it smokeless cause it smokes about the same as regular 2 cycle oil. I really should be using amsoil also, as that is all I will run for motor oil in my motorcycles. Great product. I used to use it in my free air snowmobiles too with no engine failures. I have a feeling that the 100/1 would probably smoke less than the supposedly smokeless stuff by strikemaster, but thats just my opinion. Let me know how yours works out with the 100/1 amsoil..

[Daveo]

Tightlines....will do

How is the ice yor way??? i have a feeling i will have to take the father inlaw out soon
he is up your way in D.L

DaveO

[JIGLFIN]

Danny Berg;

Very interesting subject!

I have also been working on eliminating
the emissions and noise, while drilling holes
in my shanty.

To start with I converted my old 3 hp. Jiffy, from the "ear snapping" exhaust defuser, to a muffler system. To save what hearing I have left!

I'v also tested a couple different hose systems, which worked great till the temp. got too high.

Than I heard about the exhaust kit from strikemaster and upon emailing for info.
I found out they no longer offer the same, (Interesting??????)
So am requesting info. on the hose material used.

I am very interested in any feedback
you may have to offer, on how user friendly
the system is and how the extension hose stands up under load.

Daveo;

Would think alot of FM'ers would be interested in any positive feedback you
may offer, on the oil, your about to test,
sounds "2 cycle friendly" and with the reduced emissions, mother nature, may be thanking you also!

Breath Easy, JIGLFIN;

[rmh2o]

Ive been using the oil that comes in a little pouch called opti 2 for 2 cycle engines I got it at a small engine shop but I believe fleet farm also has it.Ive noticed a big reduction in smoke and now I only have one gas can for everything.

[Daveo]

Here is something to somewhat confuse yea.

Strike master and jiffy both recomend a oil mixture of 24:1,, amsoil recomends 100:1 or with heavy use on hot engens 80:1.

Ive talked to alot of my mechanic buddys and they all say that 24:1 is pretty dam heavy.No wonder why the auger smokes so mutch.

A buddy of mine has been using a 50:1 for 8 years now with not a singal problem yet he used to use injex and has now switched to klotz.

On that note I think i will start with a 40:1 on my first tank or two.Then go a tad leaner like a 50:1

I do wonder why the auger mfg. wants use to run so ritch there realy seems no GOOD reasion for it except to faul out plugs and to smoke us out of the house.

If yea think about it I dont know of one other 2cyc. that requires a 24:1 not lawn boy huskavarna or steele witch are 3 of the biggist 2 cyc i can think of.

like i said ill try the 40:1 at first and then go to 50:1 after a good break in period..

If i boink my auger mama is going to kill me
(lol)
Ill fire up my new auger this week at the 40:1 and let yea know how mutch she smokes..

Good luck to all.
DaveO

[danny berg]

Jiglfin
You can get the Exhaust Extension at Sportmans Guide, I found it on their website.

[This message has been edited by danny berg (edited 12-15-2003).]

[Daveo]

Steve B,,,,before i do this....what do you think?

[rmh2o]

The opti 2 oil I use is 1.8 oz to 1 gallon of gas wich is 71:1 I was a little nervous at first as other oils use twice as much but the small engine guy assured me it was good for all 2 cycle engines.I have used this stuff for a few years now in my ice auger weed whip leave blower chainsaw lawnmower and never had a problem.Keep in mind if engine is brand new I would run the first tank of gas a little rich

[Surface Tension]

I personally would stay with the 24:1 mix.
Thats what the manufacturer suggests and for good reason. Changing the ratio on a 2 cycle engine so you don't have as much smoke in a house isnt anywhere in the manual.
Yes its smoky, its supposed to be. Much of the noxious fumes you're smelling isn't smoke from oil its from unburnt gas. Thats the nature of the beast.
Engines used in cold weather take more gas to start and run so messing with the high and low speed adjustments to reduce the raw gas will only give you problems

100:1 synthetic mix leaves very little film on bearings and cylinder walls. Thats a killer for any engine that will sit in storage like power augers.

Think about it, your using a 2 cycle engine indoors. Your going to have to put up with smoke.

[Ronsay]

I just fired up my new strikemaster yesterday on Red Lake using Valvoline 2 Cycle Ashless oil at 40:1 and it run great without puking all over the house.

As long as you dont start the engine and run it full throttle right away in sub zero temps, you shouldn't need 24:1

[Steve Bakken]

I've gotta go with Surface Tension on this one. Keep in mind, on 4 strokes, there is an oilpan full of oil that is continually pumping through all the moving parts. On a 2 stroke, the ONLY lubrication the motor gets, is what little oil is mixed in with the gas. Yes, a leaner mixture still provides enough lubrication to keep the motor running, but your shortening the lifespan of the motor exponentially. Look at it from this perspective. If you drained all the oil out of your car and filled the crankcase back up with one quart of oil and 4 quarts of gasoline, it would still run, but I don't think you'd need to worry about your 100,000 mile tune up. The way manufactures come up with the ratios is based on clearences between moving parts, operating temperatures, and the types of metals the cylinder walls and rings are made out of. My suggestion- go with the mixture they recommend.

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Steve @ Bakken's Boat Shop www.bakkensboatshop.com

[danny berg]

Wow, Start a question about the exhaust extension, get all kinds of replies about oil/gas mixture. I keep it simple I follow the directions that came with the auger.

[Daveo]

Danny I hope you dont mind that we kinda butted in on your toppic.... sorry bout that
DaveO

[danny berg]

That's ok, I went to the Sportmans guide website this morning and the Exhaust Extension is no longer there. So I won't be getting it anyway's....

[Daveo]

Danny, call pat smith over at thorne bro's he orderd a bunch of them in. I was there last week and i know he atleast has the floor model one still and most likely more....

tell him DaveO sent yea
hope it works out for yea
DaveO

[Guest]

Surface Tension
By rights, you should be fogging your engine prior to years end storage anyways. The storage issue shouldn't concern those that fog the cylinder chamber prior to putting it away at years end.
I would trust any Amsoil product. I long ago switched over all of my fluids to Amsoil in my Jeep. I get better gas mileage, cold weather starting, better shifting, on and on. Besides, if the oil is many times better than conventional, you wouldn't need to use as much. At least that's what would make sense to me. Hence the 100:1 mixture ratio.

[Ronsay]

I talked to Strikemasters technican concerning the oil/gas ratio and smoke caused by the 24:1 ratio that is recommended.

He stated that Tecumseh would void the warranty if any other ratio was used.

He also stated that they exclusevly use Bombardier XPS II Synthetic Oil at a 75:1 ratio in all of there equipment. He stated that Bombardier tested the oil for 4 years in extreme weather conditions before Strikemaster started using it. He stated that the equipment runs virtualy smoke free with more power and clean plugs. And best of all, (no engine damage).

I will be changing to this oil before my next trip. Ron

[Daveo]

not to beet a dead horse or anything.
But from what I got out of Ronsay's post. Strike Master is saying the same thing as aimsoil is but they say that SkiDoo's oil is better than aimsoil. NO dont get me wrong Doo has some dam good oil My sled is a Doo and i like it.. but there is a huge differance from the 24:1 that you get at the bait shops and the aimsoil, skidoo,artic cat,klotz, or any other of the prem.oils.

I know that steve knows his stuff. and i dont doubt him for a sec. but sure wish we could find some solid facts on this..

oh well..
bring on the ice ill just hire out
my ice drilling..LOL
DaveO

[Ronsay]

Daveo, I understand your concern. What I understand from my conversation with Strikemaster is the reason they require a 24:1 ratio the first year is because Tecumseh requires it for warranty reasons, not because it's going to make the engine perform better.

If Strikemaster uses Bombardier Synthetic Oil in all of there equipment, that's good enough for me.

Remember, if you use anything other than a 24:1 mixture the first year, Tecumseh will void your warranty.

I am going to switch to the Bombardier oil to get better perforemance and extended life of the engine. Ron

[Steve Bakken]

One last thought on the whole oil ratio subject. I guess I wouldn't be so closed-minded as to say that this is an absolute law that 24/1 is the ONLY way to go. With your standard quality department store 2-stroke oil, this is what you need for proper lubrication. However.......Bombardier, Amsoil, etc., are very good and reputable brands, and if they are confident that their oils can provide the same lubrication qualities at leaner ratios, I wouldn't be so bold as to say that this cannot be true. I was a firm skeptic of synthetic motor oils too, until I did a little research and realized that syn-oils actually DO perform better than their conventional counterparts. So, my final advise, if you do choose to go with one of these "new and improved" oils, consult with someone knowledgeable about the particular brand that your looking at and if you feel comfortable with the advise that they give you, then give it a whirl.

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Steve @ Bakken's Boat Shop www.bakkensboatshop.com

[Daveo]

OK first of all Dan have yea had a chance to call Thorne Bro's and see if the have the ext. you want?

second, if it a warenty issue I will go to the gander and picup A bottel of strike master oil and mis it to the 24:1 and thats mostly cuz im going to LOW for 4 days and if I hatch my auger I will NEVER hear the end of it from my buddys.

When i bought my auger they gave me 2 bottels of jiffy oil wich contains sta-bil..well in my eqtp. sta-bil will NEVER again toutch anything
its not open for debait for my eqpt. just aint going to happen. on the other hand love sea foam.

Thanks everone for all of the input and Dan sorry again for hoging up your thread.

Good Fishing to all
DaveO

[danny berg]

DaveO,
I decided that since I just bought a GPS the Exhaust Extension can wait until next year.

As far as the oil mixture goes, the 9.9 johnson and the snow blower are the same mix, so what ever is left in the boat motor gas tank, gets used in the snow blower, so I always start out with fresh gas for the spring. the Augers are weird, I have a 7" and an 8", both are Strikemaster Magnum III plus, the 7" smokes like crazy, and the 8" hardly smokes at all.
I use the 8" in the permanant.

Maybe I will start this thread again next year before Ice fishing starts......

Later,

Danny

[Scott Steil]

I know someone who field tested Strikemaster augers several years ago. He was told to run his at 100:1 for testing. He never did have any problems running at that ratio. Just FYI

I recommend you go with what the manufacturer says. I just wanted to share that info, I have always thought that was interesting.

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Mille Lacs Guide Service
(320)293-3287
www.millelacsguideservice.com

[Surface Tension]

Ditto what Steve said.
What we need is a dozen new augers out there using syn oil for a year. Then a total tear down with parts mic'ed.
I haven't seen any data from independent studies on syn oils yet but I do hear how good syn oils are. Just give us some hard facts.
The 24/1 mix have been tested and this is the recommendation. Why would I stick my neck out and say run your auger at 40/1 ?
As far as one auger smoking more then the other with the same mix it's like I said before, that noxious smell that burns your nostrils is unburnt gas and one auger is running richer then the other.

[danny berg]

SurfaceTension,
Can I adjust the 7" myself so the auger doesn't run as rich? I looked at the manual briefly the other day but didn't see where I can adjust myself.