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One guy had no license and 3 times over the limit? What the heck is wrong with people? Their right to angle should be revoked for a long, long time. Make it hurt.

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One guy had no license and 3 times over the limit? What the heck is wrong with people? Their right to angle should be revoked for a long, long time. Make it hurt.

If he was already fishing without a license what makes your think revoking his right to fish would keep him from fishing?

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Craigums nailed it on the head! Point is they don't care in the first place.

If you read Outdoor News Cuffs and Collars, which happens to be some of my favorite reading, you'll see many arrests uncover multiple repeat offenders. Guys or gals, but mostly guys, that did the same thing last year, or had a record of other, similar offenses.

We're surrounded on all sides by a generation of people, hoards of them, that completely lack respect, self-discipline, and integrity.

Glad to hear the TIP line is working in Minnesota!

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If he was already fishing without a license what makes your think revoking his right to fish would keep him from fishing?

There is no way to keep him from fishing... just like there is no way to keep somebody from driving. You're always going to have the repeat offenders, it's the sad truth about our society.

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BUT, Atleast they got caught!!! And it was with the help of someone who cared about our fishing industry!

Thank you to whoever you are.

Froggy

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Agreed!

And to the idots that flew past my son in the No Wake Zone out of Zipple - I hope you forget your transom plug while in your drunken stupor.

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We're surrounded on all sides by a generation of people, hoards of them, that completely lack respect, self-discipline, and integrity.

all because its against the law to spank a kid. they grow up thinking anything they do will be dealt with a "you better not do it again" type of punishment. I remember growing up that I was scared to do anything wrong in fear of getting the belt from my dad. and if I did something bad while he was gone, i got it from mom, and then even worse when dad got home.......

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In a news release, the DNR said James Fleck, 50, Hillman, Minn.; Gerald Hatch, 67, Milaca, Minn.; and Daniel Hastings, 50, of Baudette, Minn., also face fines and restitution of as much as $3,000

What generation was that again?

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You know what they say about assuming LOWFisherman!! smile

Glad they were caught. I wish they would up the fines to pay for more DNR field officers. Fines should be mulitplied by the number of repeat offenses.

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JP was only dove-tailing off my statement. A "generation" can include anyone born in the last 50 years, at least!

My point is, as stated similarly earlier, we are surrounded by people who have little to no respect for anyone other than themselves.

I'm not too confident it's because of the reason JP mentioned, but for some reason, likely due to a higher pre-destination, there is a counter-culture of people who care nothing about other people, their laws, or a common moral standard.

But then again, this has been going on for all of recorded history. Habitual criminal offense. But that is another "thread" entirely.

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There is no way to keep him from fishing... just like there is no way to keep somebody from driving. You're always going to have the repeat offenders, it's the sad truth about our society.

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You know what they say about assuming LOWFisherman!! smile

Glad they were caught. I wish they would up the fines to pay for more DNR field officers. Fines should be mulitplied by the number of repeat offenses.

Oh, i wasn't assuming anything, just giving my opinion

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I am glad to see that TIPS do pay off. Perhaps enforcement should be heavier to catch those who believe they do not have to buy a license. When we were up on May 21-27, we got a random check by DNR enforcement. But, out of crowd of 35-40 boats only we and one other boat was checked. I have no problem answering questions and displaying my license--enforcement is one thing we pay for when we buy the license.

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Oh, i wasn't assuming anything, just giving my opinion

What, that you know these boomers weren't spanked as children??? confused

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What, that you know these boomers weren't spanked as children??? confused

yeah, i'm not taking the bait (no pun intended) I have an opinion as to why kids these days have no respect for authority and i'm just leaving it at that. Thanks

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So many people these days feel a sense of entitlement. It has no age or race boundary, its just the way it is. You can attribute it to the equal rights I think. I am NOT saying equal rights isnt a good thing, but at a certain point, some people forget what IT is trying to accomplish and just look for the handouts or the easy road. Believe it is their "right" to possess what someone else has worked their butt off for rather than doing the same.

I dont understand this line of thinking at all. These folks have no respect for anything. I also do not think they have any fear of consequence. Its obvious. "Im going to take your license away". Well, they didnt have one in the first place, big deal.

There is no recourse for them.

If I would have done something like this you can sure bet the wrath of my father would have rained down on me. It is this that made me think 2 and 3 times before doing anything remotely questionable. The recourse in my case was a [PoorWordUsage] off parent that would deal with me. These folks lose their license which wasnt all that important to them in the first place so, no real punishment.

IMO you are not entitled to anything. You earn it. Fishing is a priviledge and with it go rules. Anyone can do it, but follow the rules.

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I wonder if they would continue to break the law if we trippled the fines for a second or third offense?

If they took the boat, truck, fishing gear, freezer in the house and a huge fine, that may slow them down.

Like enough is enough.

I remember in my younger years when I messed up, the thing I feared most was when my Father found out. Today, many parents just say, my kid would not do that.

If a parent did today what my father did for punishment today, the parent would be jailed and the kid taken away. But you know what, I didn't hurt me one bit as I had it coming and I never hated mt Father for it. Maybe at the time when I thought I knew everything but I guess that may be why I got the whooping I got.

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I remember in my younger years when I messed up, the thing I feared most was when my Father found out. Today, many parents just say, my kid would not do that.

If a parent did today what my father did for punishment today, the parent would be jailed and the kid taken away. But you know what, I didn't hurt me one bit as I had it coming and I never hated mt Father for it. Maybe at the time when I thought I knew everything but I guess that may be why I got the whooping I got.

+1, If Dad's handed out the spanking's like they did in the olden days alot of this carp wouldn't happen.

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This still happens a lot and most dont get caught. Make the fines high enough and people will think twice about doing it. Funny the DNR complains about not haveing enough money and wants to raise licence fees but they dont want to fine people enough for breaking the law. Im sure if you took a poll from sportsman almost everyone would be in favor of raiseing the fines and takeing away boats,trucks,equiptment and fishing rights for those that take way over their limit. These are not guys that miscounted one fish or had one fish a hair over the slot.

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I fail to see how two 50-year old guys and a 67-year old guy breaking the law have any correlation to a lack of respect from today's youths, but I'll play along. Maybe the DNR should be handing out spankings instead of fines.

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Some of these Dads and Grand dads are the worst offenders and dont set much of an example for their offspring.

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Don't quite see the correlation here between the DNR and the fines that are imposed!!!! The DNR does not set the fines, the CO's enforce the laws that have been enacted and the judicial system (courts) impose the fines. I fully agree that higher fines would be in order, in fact maybe a little time in the "Steel door Motel" might even be appropriate for repeat offenders. They could still go to work on the Huber law and pay for their stay. Food for thought.... smirk

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For those of off us growing up on a cattle/grain farm i laugh at the ingenuity that my father came up with to tan our hide, wasnt funny at the time but still grew up loving an respecting my father. And right and wrong was a hugh pice of the adolescence pie to eat.

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I fail to see how two 50-year old guys and a 67-year old guy breaking the law have any correlation to a lack of respect from today's youths, but I'll play along. Maybe the DNR should be handing out spankings instead of fines.

lol, exactly

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I think the problem with most habitual offenders is that they grew up without anybody showing them the correct, legal, ethical way, their parents were trailer trash, the parents set the bad example, and the kids think thats the way everybody is.

I think education - make sure scoflaws realize that 'not everyone does it' and higher fines - confiscate the boat and car, make it hurt - are the cure. Also by taking the boat, it makes it tougher to be a repeat offender.

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Heck, I am 35 and still do things out of fear and respect due to my father's words or sometimes lack there of when doing something wrong or even contemplating if I should be doing something! I had a share of "the belt" or sometimes weeping willow branches, and an occasional paint stir stick... I also show more respect to others than I see younger kids show anyone, an that includes their own parents! I can remember coming home and telling my dad that he couldn't spank me anymore, because the teachers at school said so... a belt for "mouthing off of threats" and I never spoke of it again... I was given the rights I needed to make my own decisions, but have never felt that I was deprived of a childhood due to having a father who wanted me to succeed in life and not just by taking advantage of others... I think one of the best ones I have seen as of late was a car salesman(18-23yrs old) who was giving a guy a rough time, and not being very respectful watched that same customer decide on the spot go accross the road to a different dealer only to watch the same customer have 6 brand new trucks loaded onto a hauler to be delivered to his business! I can't remember having such a good laugh over that one! The salesman not only lost one sale, but 5 and on top of it the businessman called his boss to let him know that he decided that from now on he will be ordering his new vehicles (every year) from a different dealership the salesman was let go that afternoon! A wise man once told me that whether it's fear or respect you will (censored) listen to me.

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