• GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

  • Join In - We Share Fishing Reports & Outdoor Information Here

     
      You know what we all love...

      The same things you do!!!! Share what you love & enjoy in the outdoors as well as thank those whose posts you 'appreciate.'

      Have Fun!!!

Sign in to follow this  
RiverFish

Ryan Braun cleared!

Recommended Posts

RiverFish

ESPN reports that Ryan Brauns 50 day suspension has been overturned.

Great news for Brewers Fans!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
walleyeking19

The sad thing is, that he will forever have steroids mentioned with his MVP season from some stupid fans.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
schmitty3

So was he proven he wasn't on the PEDS?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
CRBass

Not at all.

His specimen was not sent in soon enough (according to policy)

He got off on a technicality.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
CrappiesNCats

Is it fair that one player gets to cheat because of a technicality? either make him serve the due suspension, or just make PED's legal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
mrklean

There were some interesting things said when he made his statement about being clear, he was honest about everything including his personal life, that pretty much sums that up, there were rumors that his STD medication was the reason he T-level were so high, was a very interesting story from start to finish

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Rippinlip

Another black eye to Baseball.

He admitted guilt and this is a bad precedent to go forward with.

He should be serving the 50 days.

IMO

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
B. Amish

only player cleared is from bud selig's old team.... things that make you go hmmmm.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
nofishfisherman

Another black eye to Baseball.

He admitted guilt and this is a bad precedent to go forward with.

He should be serving the 50 days.

IMO

He admitted guilt? I haven't seen or heard him do anything but profess his complete innocence.

When I read the articles about him being cleared it said the panel that ruled on the issue specifically didn't give a reason for their decision. It didn't say whether there was an issue in how the samples were handled or tested or in the time frame in which they were tested and it didn't say anything about any possible STD medication.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
RiverFish

only player cleared is from bud selig's old team.... things that make you go hmmmm.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Braun being cleared.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ted4887

He admitted guilt and this is a bad precedent to go forward with.

I'm pretty sure he has claimed innocence this whole time. I believe what is going to come out is that the STD medication rumor is true. If that's the case, we need to move on, and drop this Braun steroid talk. It's MLB's fault this was overturned in the first place. If they want the players to follow the rules, they should to.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Rippinlip

I may have misquoted that, for that I apolagize.

I just heard he offered to take a DNA test to prove his innocence that the sample wasn't his, then when MLB was contemplating that his lawyer and Ryan did a very quick reversal.

Who knows, but apparently he is having a news conference here shortly.

I will say MLB did drop the ball(no pun intended) on the process of the test and retention/transfer of the sample.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
nofishfisherman

I just read the article on ESPN about Braun. Sounds like during the arbitration hearing he didn't dispute the science of the test but instead the chain of custody/timeframe for delivering the sample.

Also from how he was talking about being honest about his personal life throughout the investigation it really sounds like he had to tell them about some sort of embarassing situation that would have caused a false positive (STD medication for example). I'm sure he doesn't want those details to get to the media.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
B. Amish

This has absolutely nothing to do with Braun being cleared.

selig used to own the brewers. now he's the commisioner. conflict of interest???? it wouldn't be the first time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
alleyes

selig used to own the brewers. now he's the commisioner. conflict of interest???? it wouldn't be the first time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LHarris

I heard the whole thing took so long because a law suit was filed by Braun's folks for breach of medical confidentiality rights by the testing facility blatantly outing a test that is suppose to be confidential.

Medical records are a big deal these days.

I see Braun getting some serious CASH from the testing agency.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
TR21HP

As is in most decisions based on legality there is a difference between innocent and not guilty. If indeed Braun had to be administered a medication for an STD there is a provision in baseball testing regs that he notify and have a medical form filled out to reflect possible problems resulting from taking this medication. he did not fill out and receive medical clearance to take that medication. I do agree that baseball is responsible for this testing screw upand this problem needs to be addressed by baseball and not Braun.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
RiverFish

Key word, used to own. Do you really think Bud wants this type of negative media on the MLB testing process. Come on.

Again there is no conflict of interest here, no story.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
alleyes

30:1 , that is a cheater! A ratio of 4:1 is abnormal...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
B. Amish

Key word, used to own. Do you really think Bud wants this type of negative media on the MLB testing process. Come on.

Again there is no conflict of interest here, no story.

like when he used to own the brewers while the twins were gonna be contracted. the biggest beneficiary out of that whole deal would've been the brewers expanding their market 10 fold.

baseball is no stranger to bad press during bud's tenure.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
PierBridge

In true Vannatter/Furman fashion he O.J-ayed his way out of it.... grin

Go Brewers!... smile

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
PierBridge

I forgot to add what an Embarrassment slash humiliating event for MLB

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
schmitty3

What a joke! This is a huge embarrassment for MLB and Bud Selig.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
bobbymalone

Remind me again why Pete Rose was banned FOR LIFE?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
PierBridge

Remind me again why Pete Rose was banned FOR LIFE?

Because it was concluded that he bet on MLB baseball games which is forbidden and carries a lifetime ban. And to make matters worse and the reason he is not in the hall today is he repeatably lied time and time again when all he had to do was admit he bet on baseball.

In a nutshell his stubborn EGO was just to big to say I did it and I'm sorry. In which in todays world means you get a 2nd chance. smirk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Kettle
      Drove past the west side of Mille Lacs today. Large areas of ice with a few open areas and even a boat fishing, looks like they busted ice at the Garrison access to get out. Saw a handful of goldeneye and mergansers but that was it
    • Sculpin
      The addition of beads really adds something,  I go to the fabric store in St Cloud and buy glass beads, and use them above hooks on my deadsticks. I believe glass is better, they are brighter in color, more reflective, you can find more colors and sizes. Plus they click clack a little bit when you jig. 
    • BRULEDRIFTER
      I personally would like to see the smallie wiped off the map in this lake (and all laker lakes). They aren't native and I assume they are detrimental to laker populations.  I can only imagine what they do to laker fry and yoy on those rocks and reefs.  It seems as the laker population declined on W. Bearskin, the smallies have exploded.  Not sure if that's because the SM have more food to work with with less lakers, or because the lake trout are the smallies food. I''ll be curious to see how the DNR responds to that question I asked, if they respond at all.  
    • BRULEDRIFTER
      Thanks for the heads up on this!  I just sent them the following email.    Good afternoon,    I am curious if potentially implementing a slot limit, or maximum size regulation on lake trout is being considered in this management plan?   As an avid and passionate lake trout angler for over 15 years, I have noticed that over the last number of years lake trout angling has greatly increased in popularity, and with that, the overall quality and quantity of the fish populations have significantly decreased (at least in my experiences).  Stocking them has long been discontinued and it seems the vast majority of anglers keep fish of any size. In fact, it seems in the world of lake trout, the bigger the better. It seems that education about how fragile these fish are is just not readily available for people. There is some stuff out there if one were to dig deep enough, and a few of the more popular fishing shows are doing some education, but overall, it seems to be lacking because walleye are king.   Personally, I practice and promote selective harvest with lakers. My personal slot (and one I would love to see here in all MN Inland waters) is anything less than 17" and and greater than 25" go back in the lake ( so, a 2 fish total bag limit, 17-25", with 1 fish allowed over 32"). It would also be nice to see more strict limits put in place on the most popular lake trout fisheries, but a statewide slot would be a great place to start.    I have felt for quite a long time (as I've seen their popularity grow, and stocking discontinue) that some additional protection for these fish was greatly needed. There are Esox groups, bass groups, walleye groups, stream trout/steelhead groups and even catfish and sturgeon groups out there promoting and cheer leading for those fish species, but nothing out there for the laker.   I would love to see the MN DNR finally take some steps to help protect what we have left of lake trout fisheries while we still have them.     So, in summary,    Are there any additional protections (slots, limits, etc) for lake trout being included in this new management plan?   Has there been any research done on how smallmouth bass are impacting lake trout populations?  And if so, are they impacting them?    If smallies are having an impact on lakers, can there be anything done, aside from aggressive harvest of smallmouth to protect laker populations?       Thank you very much for your time!   Sincerely,    An Extremely Passionate Lake Trout Angler
    • Sculpin
      There are a few porty's starting to show up in the bays on the south side, although there is still a good deal of open water on the main lake. There were two houses out on Waukon bay yesterday, and an ATV and a small hard side spear shack in Cove bay, and one house in Isle Bay.  I would imagine by the weekend, there will be significant foot traffic in the bays. Bear in mind you can't fish walleyes until Dec. 1st, but you can be perchin or pike fishing and, and still be catching those pesky "incidental" fish. Good luck, and use extreme caution 
    • AlwaysFishing23
      Tuned up custom inferno series in UL for panfish and the M for walleyes. Inline reels like the CGI or decent for the Ul. And a okuma ceymar c10 or Shimano Sienna 1000 FE for the M. 
    • shaky legs2
      I was back on the ice a week after hip replacement surgery.  My wife wasn’t too happy and threatened to tell the surgeon but I went anyway.  After I graduated from the walker to a cane I decided one morning to take a walk and visit some of Kelly’s customers.  Every house I went to nobody would talk to me.  I was just trying to be sociable and a good neighbor.  When I got back Doc asked me how it went.  I said we had a bunch of rufusses for neighbors that were unsociable and nobody would talk to me.  Doc said, “Don’t you remember rule #1?” “ Kelly has them posted in all his houses”.  “Don’t talk to strangers!”  😀😀😀
    • Naturboy
      I like taking the Power Bait maggots and threading onto my pan fish jigs the same way. gives a soft tasty body.
    • shaky legs2
      God, I miss those times Kelly.  You are a great friend and Doc and I commented so many times how fortunate we were that you took us under your wing.  You probably felt sorry for us and thought we were harmless.  I remember your first year with the press-board houses that you later painted sky blue so they would blend into the horizon, that fire engine red truck you had, sneaky snaky roads with a gatekeeper house smack in the middle, that sneaky off-shoot road right off the Hillman road on the south side of the pressure ridge.  That area witnessed the hottest crappie bite I have ever seen and it went on for months and the crappie Highway.  Doc is reading this right now and chuckling.  Take care my friend, stay healthy and give Freddy a hug from Shaky.
    • shaky legs2
      Sorry to hear this.  Get well Cookie.