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RiverFish

Ryan Braun cleared!

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RiverFish

ESPN reports that Ryan Brauns 50 day suspension has been overturned.

Great news for Brewers Fans!

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walleyeking19

The sad thing is, that he will forever have steroids mentioned with his MVP season from some stupid fans.

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schmitty3

So was he proven he wasn't on the PEDS?

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CRBass

Not at all.

His specimen was not sent in soon enough (according to policy)

He got off on a technicality.

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CrappiesNCats

Is it fair that one player gets to cheat because of a technicality? either make him serve the due suspension, or just make PED's legal.

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mrklean

There were some interesting things said when he made his statement about being clear, he was honest about everything including his personal life, that pretty much sums that up, there were rumors that his STD medication was the reason he T-level were so high, was a very interesting story from start to finish

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Rippinlip

Another black eye to Baseball.

He admitted guilt and this is a bad precedent to go forward with.

He should be serving the 50 days.

IMO

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B. Amish

only player cleared is from bud selig's old team.... things that make you go hmmmm.

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nofishfisherman

Another black eye to Baseball.

He admitted guilt and this is a bad precedent to go forward with.

He should be serving the 50 days.

IMO

He admitted guilt? I haven't seen or heard him do anything but profess his complete innocence.

When I read the articles about him being cleared it said the panel that ruled on the issue specifically didn't give a reason for their decision. It didn't say whether there was an issue in how the samples were handled or tested or in the time frame in which they were tested and it didn't say anything about any possible STD medication.

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RiverFish

only player cleared is from bud selig's old team.... things that make you go hmmmm.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Braun being cleared.

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ted4887

He admitted guilt and this is a bad precedent to go forward with.

I'm pretty sure he has claimed innocence this whole time. I believe what is going to come out is that the STD medication rumor is true. If that's the case, we need to move on, and drop this Braun steroid talk. It's MLB's fault this was overturned in the first place. If they want the players to follow the rules, they should to.

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Rippinlip

I may have misquoted that, for that I apolagize.

I just heard he offered to take a DNA test to prove his innocence that the sample wasn't his, then when MLB was contemplating that his lawyer and Ryan did a very quick reversal.

Who knows, but apparently he is having a news conference here shortly.

I will say MLB did drop the ball(no pun intended) on the process of the test and retention/transfer of the sample.

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nofishfisherman

I just read the article on ESPN about Braun. Sounds like during the arbitration hearing he didn't dispute the science of the test but instead the chain of custody/timeframe for delivering the sample.

Also from how he was talking about being honest about his personal life throughout the investigation it really sounds like he had to tell them about some sort of embarassing situation that would have caused a false positive (STD medication for example). I'm sure he doesn't want those details to get to the media.

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B. Amish

This has absolutely nothing to do with Braun being cleared.

selig used to own the brewers. now he's the commisioner. conflict of interest???? it wouldn't be the first time.

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alleyes

selig used to own the brewers. now he's the commisioner. conflict of interest???? it wouldn't be the first time.

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LHarris

I heard the whole thing took so long because a law suit was filed by Braun's folks for breach of medical confidentiality rights by the testing facility blatantly outing a test that is suppose to be confidential.

Medical records are a big deal these days.

I see Braun getting some serious CASH from the testing agency.

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TR21HP

As is in most decisions based on legality there is a difference between innocent and not guilty. If indeed Braun had to be administered a medication for an STD there is a provision in baseball testing regs that he notify and have a medical form filled out to reflect possible problems resulting from taking this medication. he did not fill out and receive medical clearance to take that medication. I do agree that baseball is responsible for this testing screw upand this problem needs to be addressed by baseball and not Braun.

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RiverFish

Key word, used to own. Do you really think Bud wants this type of negative media on the MLB testing process. Come on.

Again there is no conflict of interest here, no story.

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alleyes

30:1 , that is a cheater! A ratio of 4:1 is abnormal...

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B. Amish

Key word, used to own. Do you really think Bud wants this type of negative media on the MLB testing process. Come on.

Again there is no conflict of interest here, no story.

like when he used to own the brewers while the twins were gonna be contracted. the biggest beneficiary out of that whole deal would've been the brewers expanding their market 10 fold.

baseball is no stranger to bad press during bud's tenure.

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PierBridge

In true Vannatter/Furman fashion he O.J-ayed his way out of it.... grin

Go Brewers!... smile

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PierBridge

I forgot to add what an Embarrassment slash humiliating event for MLB

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schmitty3

What a joke! This is a huge embarrassment for MLB and Bud Selig.

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bobbymalone

Remind me again why Pete Rose was banned FOR LIFE?

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PierBridge

Remind me again why Pete Rose was banned FOR LIFE?

Because it was concluded that he bet on MLB baseball games which is forbidden and carries a lifetime ban. And to make matters worse and the reason he is not in the hall today is he repeatably lied time and time again when all he had to do was admit he bet on baseball.

In a nutshell his stubborn EGO was just to big to say I did it and I'm sorry. In which in todays world means you get a 2nd chance. smirk

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