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Let's start this one up again. I've been fishing every weekend for a while now and every time out I see rafts of cormorants. How bad does it have to get before someone realizes there's going to be a problem? This is like watching the first Panzer divisions roll into Poland and saying "this won't be so bad!". Who do we have to pester to get some action on this? On a lighter note, fishing has been pretty good including muskies. I would just hate to see things head south when they are so good right now....

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Let's start this one up again. I've been fishing every weekend for a while now and every time out I see rafts of cormorants. How bad does it have to get before someone realizes there's going to be a problem? This is like watching the first Panzer divisions roll into Poland and saying "this won't be so bad!". Who do we have to pester to get some action on this? On a lighter note, fishing has been pretty good including muskies. I would just hate to see things head south when they are so good right now....

"There has been concern in recent years about increasing numbers

of cormorants on Lake Vermilion. M any anglers and lake residents

are concerned that high cormorant numbers might harm gamefish

populations, especially walleye. Documented cases where

cormorants have impacted fish populations are rare. Cormorants

generally exist at population levels that do not significantly impact

fish populations. Cormorants are protected by the Migratory Bird

Act, which makes indiscriminate killing of these birds illegal. Some

limited control of cormorants is allowed through a depradation order

managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. However, there must

be evidence of damage before control would be approved. Cormorant

numbers and fish populations will be monitored closely, and

cormorant control will be proposed should evidence develop that

gamefish populations are being impacted."

This is from the DNR "fisheries management in lake vermilion" document

Basically you can forget them doing anything until harm has been documented, since Uncle Sam says they are protected. So we can wail all we want to and it won't make any difference.

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That's what I figured. I just had to vent a bit. Typical government way of thinking about things!

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it does seem that government is re-active instead of pro-active. wait for something to happen and then they are there for the rescue, when damage is already done. i think it would be wise to control these birds, however i would not like to eliminate them. they are part of our environmental system but have been known to get out of control with leech lake and the knife river as examples. good luck.

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Well, you could always engage in Vigilante Action. Power to the People.

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well whats considered damage ? how about total environmental damage to the islands that are totally devoid of vegetation due to bird excrement that has killed all of it ,even the trees ! or the rotten putrid stench that hits ya like a cocrete wall when you get downwind of em !some of the islands here on the river are completly ruined because of commorants and now pelicans.i have another question are commorants native to America? can anybody name a natural predator that dines on em ?what keeps their populatian in check ?

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I found this online:

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Predators of cormorant eggs and chicks include gulls, crows, Blue Jay, Common Grackle, Raccoon, Red Fox, and Coyote. Adult cormorants are preyed on by Bald Eagle and Great Horned Owl.
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My 12 guage could keep they're pop in check smirk

Taste like walleye, but a little chewier. smile

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And I thought that was just fireworks I've been hearing in the evening!

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    • JerkinLips
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