• RECEIVE THE GIFTS MEMBERS SHARE WITH YOU HERE...THEN...CREATE SOMETHING TO ENCHANT OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE

    You know what we all love...

    When you enchant people, you fill them with delight and yourself in return. Have Fun!!!

  • 0
Sign in to follow this  
zeusaric

Auger kills at bottom of ice

Question

zeusaric

I bought a used Jiffy 3hp 8 inch auger. My buddy bought it new at the end of last season and used it only 4 days last year. When I bought it this year, it already had gas in it, I'm assuming it's from last year.

Anyway, it seems to run fine, however I get to the bottom of the ice, it quits on me. Am I doing something wrong? Is the gas\mixture bad? Is the blade dull?

Any\all suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

10 answers to this question

Recommended Posts

  • 0
huskminn

I have a 2 HP Strikemaster 8" and I had similar problems last year with mine. I also had old gas in the tank. Mine would sometimes die while idling.

I purged the gas from everything, including the fuel line. I put in fresh gas, cleaned the plug (it was dirty) and the thing ran much better.

However, the auger would still bog down when it reached the bottom of the ice and I had a heck of a time "punching through". This may have been why I was having kill problems at the same point before.

I noticed that I had a habit of "pushing" the auger down while drilling. I tried just holding the auger in place and letting the weight of the auger do the pushing. I no longer would get bogged down or hung up on that last inch of ice. Something about putting that weight on the auger would cause it to dig into the ice.

Don't know if my info will help you, but just putting it out there. Good luck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Guest

Is it catching on the ice before it kills or is it just killing?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Roop-Dogg

something else you might try. when you are drilling, and before you get to the bottom, lift your auger to clear the shavings/chips from the hole. do this a couple of times on the way down and your auger will cut much easier.

------------------
Roop

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
zeusaric

Thanks for the replies guys, I'll give the suggestions a shot tomorrow.

Eddy and Scott, I let the engine warm up for a minute or more so that it will idle b4 I start drilling. Everything will be going smoothly, cutin a nice clean hole and then it starts to die when I reach the bottom. I try to "save" it by lifting, increasing gas, decreasing gas, nothing has seemed to work. After it kills I start it right up and then go back, usually at a little higher RPM since i'm not exactly happy, and get through. I'll start the 2nd hole, and it'll happen again when I get to the bottom of the 2nd hole.

I'll empty out the gas tonight and see how that goes for tomorrow.

Thanks for your help\advice.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Matt D

zeusaric,

I saw the thread topic and immediately knew it came from Jiffy owner. They all hang up a bit on the "punch-through". However, with it killing at that point, I think your problem is a little worse. A friend of mine runs a small engine shop and word has it he's been keeping plenty busy lately. Seems the shelf-life of gas these days is really short (~ 1 month give or take). Unless the fuel left in the tank from last year had stabilizer in it, that's probably the source of the problem. Using fresh gas may or may not solve it. With gas sitting in it that long, you may have gotten some varnish built up in the carb. I haven't looked at the layout on Jiffy's all that close, but if fresh gas doesn't solve the problem, you might see if you can shoot some carb cleaner in to clear it up a bit. I had to do the same thing on two separate small engines of mine last summer. One had varnished up so bad the idle jet was completely clogged. Good luck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
Guest

If the engine is running properly except for when the center point pops through and the main blade catches full, then I would say it is in need of a touch up on the main cutting edge.

As the center point punches through the main cutting edge gets a lot to chew all at once. This can really pull hard on the engine, although usually this will catch, not kill the engine dead. Ease up on the last 2" of ice so the blade can chew it up in a more metered fashion.

If a auger will not advance and spins more then it cuts, it is a dull or bent centering point. For some name brand power augers this may be due to ice build up on the center point.

wink.gif

Low power is another deal. Check your plug, hell replace it, they are cheap, just keep the old one for a spare.

I always run Premium High Octane gas/oil mix treated with a dab of Sea-Foam, and a douche of Sta-Bil, always-always treat your fuel.

------------------
"Ed on the Red"
Backwater Guiding Service
backwtr1@msn.com
fishingminnesota.com/ed-on-the-red/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
minneman

Loosen the vent screw on the gas cap?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
MnSportsman

I think Backwater Eddy nailed that one right on the head, with that last post. Get a new blade,or set of blades. It's sure to help, & you'll eventually need a new set anyway. If you already have a new blade(s) on it, the problem may still be as B.Eddy said. The point may be part of the problem.
"Dress" it up a little with a file.
This trouble will only get worse if you don't
keep the cutting edges sharp. The cetrifugal clutch parts(shoes/springs/drum), & main drive bearing also, can be damaged(Burnt).
The price to fix these is relatively inexpensive,even more so if ya do the repairs yourself. But putting on sharp blades & dressing the point is fast & easy, & you're gonna have ta do it sooner or later anyway.
Good luck!
wink.gif

------------------
Good Luck & Watch your bobber!
MnSportsman
Proud to be a member in good standing, of the
"Church of the Divine Wilderness"!
;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 0
zeusaric

Thanks for all your posts\ideas, I really appreciate it. I emptied and put in new gas for this weekend, still had some problems though. In talking with the previous owner, the gas was left in all year. I'll have the carb cleaned out, put in a new plug, and start using higher octane gas.

I can't imagine the blade being dull yet, but I'll give that a shot as well.

Thanks for you help.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • ZachD
      Its that time of year again pick up your heart guard and your flea and tick.  
    • Smoker2
      Where are you located?
    • eyeguy 54
      Time to get the yak ready. Might need to paddle a couple spots on the sippi soon. 
    • mrpike1973
      Nice Crappie!
    • Rick G
      Eyeguy and I made it out one last time yesterday. Access points are getting pretty bad in our area. Was finding roughly 2ft of  very chunky ice in the places we drilled holes. With the warm weather and bright sunahine we had, I'm guessing we lost a few inches through the day Fishing wasn't exactly fast and furious, we did get our fish... but really had to work for the quality.  The area we ended up finding our fish was a shallow 6-10ft dark bottom flat, close to where they will move come ice out.   It soon became apparent the fish we were targeting were almost swiming with their back right against the bottom of the ice, infact my two best crappies hit while my bait was only inches below my hole.  Baits we found better success with were the Northland slugbug and The Impulse Mayflies in bright colors. Jig size didn't seem to matter much due to the depth we were fishing. As I am typing this, my thoughts are already turning toward warmer days spent chasing smallies on the river. The boat and yak are soon to be ready, rods will be strung and so on. It was one heck of a long winter.... fished with some real good people from this site I had more good days than bad, got some monster fish locally... for these things I'm truly blesaed.... like I said,It's been a long winter....I'm glad it's over Pic is of my last big ice crappie for the season  
    • Cliff Wagenbach
      I will certainly keep you informed about the progress of the hatchery. I expect to see the nets and traps go in within the next two to three days. The run should be very strong as the fish are already moving into Pike Bay strongly. Cliff
    • Bigfatbert
      Thanks Cliff for your Pike River deteriorating ice reports and pics . I. Really want to show my wife the hatchery when the action is really happening this year , I would assume you will be right on that when this happens , is there any way that you can give a shout out on here as to just when this scenario is happening up there . With the warmer temps being quite steady now , I would think the run will be rather strong this year when things get going ..  
    • biff
    • CigarGuy
      I got the 4 smaller ones the other day. They are a little over 2" long and paid only $6.64 total to my door.  The quality seem pretty good, we shall see once I put them to some use! 
    • Bryan P
      Thanks Leech! Ya you need a life jacket in a kayak. I have mine behind my seat, but Yes I should be wearing it.