Timberwolves kill my dog!!!

[bowser]

Yesterday evening, my 16 yr old son was brush hogging some of our trails. He was out in our ~12 acre field when 2 timberwolves attacked and fatally wounded our best friend, our dog Cara. My son was about 150 yds from them when it happened and the wolves weren't bothered by his presence. He called up to the house on his cell phone and I immediately went out there to find the wolves standing over my Yellow Lab. I chased them off with the truck and came back to check on the dog and go tell my wife the sad news. She was on her way out to the field so I turned around and the wolves were already on there way back to my dog. Our dog suffered a terrible abdomen wound with her insides hanging out.We took her to the vet but she was missing a big piece of her stomach muscle. They were unable to perform surgery and had to be put to sleep. Our dog was just like one of our kids and it has been a very hard day for me, my wife and four kids.

[thedeadsea]

Very sorry to hear of the loss of your dog. Wolves are my least favorite of all animals.

For what it is worth they are now off the endangered species list.

Steve

[jwmiller33]

im sorry for your loss. i am 22 and my family has had the same golden retriever since i was 10. my golden means the world to me and she has obviously been getting very old and i am dreading the day we have to put her down as she is like a sibling to me. i feel your pain.

[DoubleLunger]

That sucks!!

[SpitnArgueDuckClub*]

Normally I am not one to be super cautious but if these wolves showed no fear of a human close on an atv I would be packing everytime I was on the atv or out for a walk. I would like to also ask, in Minnesota could a person shoot a wolf or wolves that are attacking a pet?

[thedeadsea]

I would like to also ask, in Minnesota could a person shoot a wolf or wolves that are attacking a pet?

That's a grey area as I'm not sure if pets and livestock fall into the same category.

If it was illegal I can't see any CO citing someone for doing so.

We need to get these vermin off the protected list and under real control. Anyone who thinks there are only 2000 wolves in MN (the DNR posted "target" population) needs to learn how to count.

Steve

[BigWadeS]

Normally I am not one to be super cautious but if these wolves showed no fear of a human close on an atv I would be packing everytime I was on the atv or out for a walk. I would like to also ask, in Minnesota could a person shoot a wolf or wolves that are attacking a pet?

I would say no, but if I ever saw one attacking a pet or livestock I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger, right or wrong. I also know you can take action for livestock so maybe you can.

I feel sorry for you loss of a great family member and to your son who unfortunately had to witness that.

[hidepounder]

For what it is worth they are now off the endangered species list.

Steve

they were reinstated...Minnesota's wolves have returned to the federal threatened species list following a federal judge's ruling Monday that rescinded a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's 2007 decision to delist the western Great Lakes population of gray wolves.

The gray wolf, commonly referred to as the timber wolf, was removed from the threatened species list in March 2007 and management of the wolf population became a state responsibility. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) managed wolves under the terms of a federally approved state wolf management plan.

The judge's Sept. 29 ruling places wolves back under federal protection and management.

"As a result of this ruling, Minnesotans need to know there is no legal way for an individual to kill a wolf except in the defense of human life," said Dan Stark, DNR wolf management specialist. "Taking wolves to protect domestic animals may only be done by agents of the government."

[FISHINGURU]

lol who cares what the law is...if wolves were attacking my dog they'd be shot forsure

[thedeadsea]

Hidepounder, I thought they were taken off the list again earlier this year??

Steve

[ranger20]

lol who cares what the law is...if wolves were attacking my dog they'd be shot forsure

sorry to here but i have no problem shotting a wolves all years long the do nothing but make problems,

[hidepounder]

Hidepounder, I thought they were taken off the list again earlier this year??

Steve

http://www.startribune.com/local/49433357.html

[terminal tackle]

lol who cares what the law is...if wolves were attacking my dog they'd be shot forsure

I agree when pretators attack family pets or live stock there is no law but your own...........the law is on a need to no basis and they don't need to no. the 3S's SHOOT/SHOVEL/and SHUT UP.........

[hidepounder]

sorry to here but i have no problem shotting a wolves all years long the do nothing but make problems,

curious, what are these problems they have caused you??

[Andy Loos1431189100]

Very sorry to hear about that. Thats just crazy.

[croixflats]

Bowser that has got to be about as rough as it can get. My heart goes out to you and your family for the lost of a family member.

[bowser]

Thank you to everyone who has had kind words for us. We miss Cara so very much, it's hard to think she is gone. It's like a member of our family has died. Thank you, wife of bowser

[bowser]

I will tell you the problems they have caused me! They killed my beautiful dog Cara and another dog about a mile from here. We have had Cara for 9 1/2 yrs. and she was like our child! We loved her so much, more then I could ever tell you. I have done nothing but cry. The Timberwolves ripped out my dogs guts and I'm the one who put them back in her and wrapped her with a t-shirt to rush her to the vet. So that's what they have done to me. People feel bad about what happened and they are just sharing what they would do!! I would have shot that timber wolf in a heartbeat, My son and my dog was out in that field with 2 Timberwolves. I think anyone would have taken a shot at them if there child was out there. So please don't tell us about how they are protected, We know that!! And we don't care.

Wife of bowser

[Mr.Seaguar]

Sorry to hear about your dog.

[machohorn]

< #1 supporter of what bowser said. In my time spent out in the woods I have had 2 very close encounters, my bad but strike 3 and their out. Sorry for your loss bowser

[HwthaMatt]

What a bad deal. Sorry about your dog. I can only imagine how awful that would be. I agree, I would shoot and ask questions later if I saw wolves attacking my dog. However, I am frankly shocked by the people here that have such hatred of these animals. If you don't like wolves move to somewhere that doesn't have them. Or live with it. It seems we always say this about people whose house gets flooded because the river they live next to flooded or they live in a hurricane zone and the house gets blown away. We have people on this forum talking about the 3 S's (shoot shovel shut up) and are these the same people who get all up in arms when they see someone taking slot walleyes or out of season muskies? Kind of hypocritical. I would think on a sportsman's forum there would be respect for the awesome power of nature both good and bad. I feel for the owner of this dog as I have a dog that is part of the family as well but come on. This is part of the natural world that also gives us our great fishing and beautiful woods. I am proud to live in a state that has wolves, bears and cougars.

[Riverratpete]

"SSS"

[fishuhalik]

Terrible news. I'm really sorry for your loss. I had one stare down my black lab for about 5 minutes about 10 years ago. I ran into the house, grabbed the Ruger, and threw a couple of .22s over his head. It was right in our lawn. They're getting way too comfortable around people these days.

[bowser]

Matt,

I am sorry that you say that we should move if we don't like being by the wolves. I have 3 little children that are afraid to even go outside now due to the wolves. The wolves showed no concern to our presence and it is very unnerving to think what they could do to one of our kids. Apparently you do not have children of your own, or you would show more compassion! I will pray for you to gain compassion and wisdom!

[Duffman]

Sorry for your loss, it's always tough reading of others losing their best friends no matter how they passed. But your story was truly heart wrenching.

It's something I do think of when I'm up in your neck of the woods, I'm not worried about myself, but I do worry for my hound. It would be nice if a person could defend their dog without worrying about the legal ramifications. I'm a guy who likes wolves and am glad they are around, but I would have no qualms about taking any out that were doing harm to my dog nor fault others who would do the same.

[Burnham]

i feel very sorry for you bowser, and i cannot imagine the pain you are going through, especially having to carry the dog. i think you may be biased because of your situation, heck if a wolf did that to my dog i would likely FOREVER hate wolves. i am not a huge fan of wolves, but they were here first and we do live in minnesota. they do get too comfortable with humans, but we have to try to prevent it. i am very sorry to hear about your loss, and hope you are able to cope with it.

Burnham

[HwthaMatt]

Not narrow minded, realistic. I really don't think you should move, just realize that we choose to live in areas of the country/state that come with their own unique hazards and problems as well as virtues. living in Mpls I understand I could be mugged or run over by a bus so I keep aware and live with it. I don't go out and hunt down muggers and bus drivers. And in this case the wolves were here long before we were. I don't want to argue with you. I am just stating that I have a real problem with some people's hypocritical views on wildlife.

[BeezeHound]

Matt, they is so much hatred because of all the damage they do, and when they are no longer in fear of human presence that's a problem. I would not hesitate to smoke any animal that showed no fear of me.

[HwthaMatt]

If I like the wolves so much why don't I move up to N. MN? Huh? I guess you didn't read my post. I would take a shot at a wolf if it was attacking my dog. And I would move to N. MN if I could find a job in my field, I love it up North. I was up there skiing last winter and the trails were full of wolf tracks. I really had to keep the dog close. It felt good knowing that the forest was alive.

[HwthaMatt]

Also, how about instead of hatred we have respect? That doesn't mean just rolling over and letting the wolves take over. Respect just might save a dogs or kids life. I got kind of riled up here with some of the comments so I will stop posting as we should have the thoughts of this families loss first and foremost. Man's best friend, peace with your family.