Twins trade rumors

[blue_healer_guy]

Again, Punto is a putz, he couldnt play in my amatuer league.

[Weed Shark]

The move they needed to make to perfectly fill 2 gaping holes was to exercise the "We Take it Back" clause in the Garza and Bartlett for Young deal.

[machohorn]

Thats what the Twins G.M. Billy-bone-head should put in all of his deals "We Take it Back" clause in the Garza and Bartlett for Young deal. Now that is a phrase that should be put on any deal. To me he is a very bad G.M. he knows he got burned bad on the Garza trade so he's afraid to make a mistake again. Some fans will say at least he made a trade but I do not know if the MM boys will look at it like "Thats the missing piece to this world series puzzle.

[zamboni]

If MacPhail had stayed, we would have a minimum of 3 more WS titles here, he knew how to make GREAT moves by not giving up much. The last great deal we made was the Nathan trade, and that was how many years ago?

[PierBridge]

3 more WS titles? Now thats optimistic. I'd say ZERO more but you guys know how down on the Twins I can get...!

[Neighbor_guy]

You guy's seem to forget that Garza wanted NOTHING to do with the twin's anymore. He had given up on the team and was clashing with Gardy and Rick Anderson. He took a bat and destroied the clubhouse and Gardy's office. He was done here and forced the Twins hands to make them to get ride of him.

Unfortunately, we had to give up Bartlet to make the deal happen.

Yea, I agree it would be nice to have Bartlet back, but Garza would not be here, one way or another.

[analyzer]

I think we had a "we take it back" agreement, but Tbay double stamped it with a "no backs" on Delmon Young.

[zamboni]

3 more WS titles? Now thats optimistic. I'd say ZERO more but you guys know how down on the Twins I can get...!

We had 2 in the very few years he was here, and he left when- around 92 or 93? I think had he stayed 3 in 17-18 years wouldn't be asking too much. He was a great GM here.

[PierBridge]

He was a great GM agreed.

If we would have only had a Crystal Ball and known Bartlett was not going to be a .265 hitter and the worst fielding "MLB leading in errors" Shortstop in the league like he was for us... shoulda woulda coulda!

[zamboni]

Or Ortiz was gonna be what he turned out to be. And no, not a substance user- but a 40+ HR guy for a few years. Still can't believe that decision-

Lecroy/Ortiz, Lecroy/Ortiz, Lecroy/Ortiz- Lecroy!!!!

[greebs]

if I remember right, it seems like ortiz was injured all the time when he was with the twins. I thought back then that he had great potential but just couldn't stay healthy and on the field and have to think that played a big part in them shipping him. as weak as we've been in the dh position in years prior to last year and this year, who knows what might have been but he's definitely one of those "crystal ball" type players who came up big after he left the team.

anyhow, how's everybody feeling about the team right now? the starting pitching has just been ridiculously poor as of lately. hard to believe that at beginning of year, that was supposed to be one of our strong points. so now we are weak at starting pitching, middle relief, 2nd base, and left field (when delmon plays). As bad as the look right now, they still are right in the thick of things in the weak a.l. central and have a lot of games left versus a.l. central teams so have to think they will continue to contend for the division title as long as nobody else starts playing better (but if they get to the playoffs, they sure don't look like a team that will last more than one series.)

[zamboni]

Still in it though.

[pondhopper]

Ya, we should have predicted that he would start juicing...

[UdeLakeTom]

You guy's seem to forget that Garza wanted NOTHING to do with the twin's anymore. He had given up on the team and was clashing with Gardy and Rick Anderson. He took a bat and destroied the clubhouse and Gardy's office. He was done here and forced the Twins hands to make them to get ride of him.

Unfortunately, we had to give up Bartlet to make the deal happen.

Yea, I agree it would be nice to have Bartlet back, but Garza would not be here, one way or another.

It also took the Tampa Bay catcher almost decking him in the dugout between innings to make him effective down there, or he was one start from Tampa shipping him out also.

[SledNeck]

no team wanted Ortiz

[CodyDawg]

Ortiz went on the juice and became a great hitter....he is a total and complete FRAUD. He even had the audacity to say that PED users should be banned for a year. I am glad he left. Both him and Manny are cheaters.