• GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

  • Join In - We Share Fishing Reports & Outdoor Information Here

     
      You know what we all love...

      The same things you do!!!! Share what you love & enjoy in the outdoors as well as thank those whose posts you 'appreciate.'

      Have Fun!!!

Rick

Upper Red Lake Fishing Reports

Recommended Posts

Borch

Hope you at least get some rain up there this spring Kelly.  We were pretty dry until the past two months. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kelly-p
20 hours ago, Borch said:

Hope you at least get some rain up there this spring Kelly.  We were pretty dry until the past two months. 

To give you a idea of what it is like here this is how my dock has sat since last August. The river is at lake level here.  Almost no Spring flow from melting snow. Just a trickle here and there. I've burnt any grass off for 200 feet around my house, farm buildings and farm equipment so there is a little protection in case a big fire gets going. The grass has been burnt off between the highway and the airport to give Waskish a little protection in case a fire gets going south of town. Westwind cleaned their channel last fall so they should be OK for boats. Total acreage of URL and LRL is 272,000 acres so it would ONLY take 177,261,312, 000 gallons of water to raise the lake level 2 feet. :crazy:

dockk.JPG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Borch

Wow!  Didn't realize it was that bad up there.  That's going take a long time to get turned around.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kelly-p

According to the Army Corp of Engineers weather station here in Waskish we have had a grand total of  1.29 inches of precipitation so far in 2018. :crazy: When we were burning the grass of there was still about 30% snow cover. The flames were hitting 10 feet high. :eek:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
halad

Hey Kelly can I fish of your dock opener

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kelly-p
2 hours ago, halad said:

Hey Kelly can I fish of your dock opener

Sure. The good thing is if you have too many cocktails and fall off the dock you will not have to worry about drowning. :grin: People are going to have a long walk to go swimming out of the Waskish beach. Hard to believe that 3 years ago the dock floated up off the support poles so we had to put in a few longer ones. The dock was right up to the predator guard below the wood duck houses. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Surface Tension

 Drove through last week and noticed the ditches didn't have much water compared to other years.

Kelly looks like you need an extension for your dock. :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kelly-p

"Kelly looks like you need an extension for your dock."

  But I don't think I have to worry about any boats hitting it.   :D It should be an interesting Opener.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
shaky legs2
On 4/24/2018 at 6:57 AM, halad said:

Hey Kelly can I fish of your dock opener

Kelly, If Hal is going to have cocktails while fishing off your dock make sure he brings his dog along so someone can drive him home.  Kinda like a sober cab, I mean Lab?

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hookmaster

With the low water levels, what is it going to be like launching at the public access in the river? Will waders be needed to get out into the lake?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
halad

Looking at the South shore its as low or lower than it was last fall. There is some open water on shore but the lake is ice bound yet be hard to tell until ice out but doesn't look good. Waders and a small boat maybe. I know that last fall you could only get a fishing boat through Rogers channel. Sitting on Kellys dock and drinking is looking like a plan. Dogs been gone for a long time now miss her she bailed me out more than once driving home from the W.W.

 

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kelly-p

"Kelly, If Hal is going to have cocktails while fishing off your dock make sure he brings his dog along so someone can drive him home.  Kinda like a sober cab, I mean Lab?"

We'll make sure he gets home, Don't want him hanging around the yard for days. :D Actually I've been thinking  that with the lake so low there could end up being a lot more boats in the river then there is room for, could be an interesting show. :crazy: 

  The mouth of the River could be tough. It was not cleaned this Spring. The ice is about off the river today. It just kind of faded away with no current to move it. Back in the "80's" when I was night guard at the Hatchery we had a year like this with no current in the River. The walleyes never really ran up the River with no current coming out of it.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
halad

The south shore and it looks like the east shore is open for about a mile out. Been here since the early 70,s and have never seen the lake this low in the spring. Small boats only from this side of the lake.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kelly-p

halad, I noticed this "gift" the ice fishermen left us along #23 where you clean up the litter. When I went back it was cleaned up. Are you the good soul that cleaned it up? Have you noticed that it is so dry there are no mosquitos. Want to buy some rice paddies? Ready to go just need some water. :grin: 

garbage.JPG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ozzie

Camper Ice house owners (sorry for grouping) have to be some of the biggest slobs out there!!  not saying all are this way, as I am sure many are not, and maybe majority are not, but holy cow do a few make a group look horrible!!!!

Thanks Halad for your years of cleaning up the area!!!  A thankless job most of the time I am sure but there are others out there that really appreciate all your effort thru the years!!! 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kelly-p
12 hours ago, halad said:

Yes I found that mess when I did road clean up. I don"t understand it. This was my 10th. and last year I haven't found anybody who wants to help or take it over at my age its to much for one person. Anybody interested?  Contact Beltrami County Adopt-A-Highway Program 218-647-8118. 

The bags of human waste really complicate it. A person almost needs a biohazard suit. I think the people caught throwing that stuff along the roads should be sentenced to community service picking up garbage along the roads. Thanks for all the stuff you have picked up through the years halad. :D

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
gunner55

Yep, thanks halad. Our lake association has 2 three mile sections, 1 on each end of the lake, that it does twice a year & I help when possible the last few seasons. No human waste, that I know of but it's crazy the stuff we do find. There's a very busy PA for another lake nearby on 1 end of the lake & that section gets a lot of trash, but nothing like that. Someone pick it up already this season, even before the association got to it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
halad

If that rain last night dosen't bring the lake up nothing will I measured 4".  My wife called and said get in the crawl space under the cabin because a tornado was coming actually we had very little wind just rain.   A  tornado did come across the lake back in the 70's or early 80's. I had a small boat pulled up on the beach with a new 9- horse motor when I heard the storm coming I put on hip boots and went out to get the motor off the waves were slapping me in the chest but I did manage to get the motor up on shore. The storm came across down the shore down from me where it picked up a pontoon and deposited it on shore then nocked down a swath of trees in the woods. In the morning all I  could see of my boat was the tip of the bow it was covered with sand. What will the rain do to the fishing that has been good for the middle of July well I will have to go out an see after the NW wind quits.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kelly-p

Computer is working right again so it is a little easier post. The one tornado lifted off the ground about 6 miles SW of you hal. It came off LRL and traveled far enough to cross County #23 before it lifted.. The other 2, one west of Ponemah and the other east of Ponemah left land and went NE out over URL.

ozzie,  We have finally started to get some decent rains the past 3 weeks. Erratic, 3 inches one place and 1/2 inch a mile away but welcome moisture.  We were so dry earlier that we didn't even have mosquitos and the Tamarac had not flowed for almost a year. The ditches and rivers are flowing again now but the flow is dropping off pretty fast. I would guess the bog is soaking it up.  I think the lake is up about 6 inches. The lake is less then a mile from my house but the last time I looked at it was my last day ice fishing. 😁

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ozzie

so just curious how is the water situation in the area?  the document didn't open and I don't get up in the area as often as I would like but I have heard of quite a few storms roll through the area.  I know the sentiment earlier this year was it was gonna take a lot to get things going in the right direction, so has that started to happen or still way below normal?  Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello from the NW Angle!
       
      On the Minnesota side, spinners and crawler harnesses are still the preferred method of walleye fishing, with the hot colors being pink/gold, orange/gold and orange/chartreuse. Walleye are being caught off of structure scattered in the mud between 20 and 30 feet. Down riggers and deep running crank baits have also been productive.
       
      Canadian walleye are being caught in channels off of islands and along reefs in 18 to 25 feet of water. Both bottom bouncers with a crawler harness and a jig with minnow or shiner have both been successful in Canadian waters.
       
      Musky fishing success has increased in the past week. Fish are being caught on crank baits and blade baits. With water temps in the low 70’s muskies are favoring rocks near weeds. 
       
      Our very own, Travis Palmquist, released a 54.5" musky yesterday!
       
      Fall is a great time for trophy fishing!
       
      We hope to see you soon,
       
      Sunset Lodge





    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello from the NW Angle!
       
      In Minnesota, walleye are still scattered through out the main lake basin. Night crawlers on a spinner remains most effective.  Make drifts/passes parallel but off of structure including islands and reef break lines in 24-30 feet.  Hot colors have been gold/pink, gold/orange or hammered gold.  Deep running crank baits are another good option, often producing bigger fish and large northern pike. 
       
      On the Canadian side of the lake, fish can be schooled on humps and reefs.  Once located, fish these areas with a jig and minnow or shiner.  Pulling spinners in 25-30 feet of water is most productive in covering ground to locate feeding and roaming walleye.  Muskie action continues to improve through out the week.  Multiple big fish were caught on Sunday with many others boated as well as, a lot of lookers.  As activity levels rise, blade baits have been triggering positive reactions. Water temperatures remain consistent in the low 70's. 
       
      Until next week,
       
      Sunset Lodge






    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello from the NW Angle!
      Water temps are consitently in the mid to high 70’s.
      Walleye in Minnesota can be caught on reefs with a jig and minnow. More productive methods currently are bottom bouncers and crank-baits in 24-28 feet of water.  Covering a lot of ground is key when the fish arent schooled together.  We have had many 40”+ Pike caught while trolling, reports of large Muskie also.
      Candian walleye are spread out as well, making bottom bouncing and deep cranks the ticket to success. Fish mud bottomed areas deeper than 25ft for best results. Many nice jumbo perch limits have been coming in recently. They are biting on a jig and fathead and are concentrated at 28-30ft.
      Until next week,
      Sunset Lodge
































    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello from the NW Angle!

      Water temperatures are starting in the low 70’s in the morning, reaching mid to upper 70’s in the evening.

      Minnesota walleye action can be hot running deep diving crank-baits straight, down rigging or lead core. Soft bottom areas can also be worked with spinners and a night crawler.  Fish have been favoring gold on bright days and orange, chartreus or pink in low light.  Many larger northern pike this last week in the boat via crank-baits just outside of rock reefs and points.

      Canadian walleye fishing has been more productive away from reefs and points in soft bottomed areas. The best method is to pull a spinner to find concentrations along the bottom and switch to jigging to fill out limits.

      Musky attitude in Canada varies day to day. Plenty of fish are still being caught in shallow weeds including a couple of 50+ giants this past week.  Fish are also being caught in more traditional mid-summer spots such as rock reefs and points.  The most productive baits this week were crane baits or other flat baits, buck tails and top waters. 

      Until next week,
      Sunset Lodge
       













    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello from Sunset Lodge!

      In Minnesota, walleyes and pike have been found using crank-baits on the south side of Oak Island.  Walleye have also been caught pulling spinners in 26-30 feet using gold and green.
       
      In Ontario, walleye have been very active using pink and orange jigs on the breaks of reefs or casting shallow crank-baits in 8-12 feet by rocky shoreline points.  A good mixed bag of smallmouth and pike have been found with the walleye as well.
       
      Musky fishing has really picked up with lots of fish over 40+ inches.  Fishing sand and weedy bays near rock reefs have produced well using buck-tails, small crank-baits and top-water baits. 

      Until next week!
      Sunset Lodge

    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello from the NW Angle!

      Water temperatures are currently hovering in the mid 70’s.

      Minnesota walleye action has been really good with bottom bouncers and a night crawler. Gold spinners with hints of chartreuse, orange or just hammered gold are favored.  Walleye and occasional large pike can be had trolling deep diving crank baits around shoreline breaks and reefs.

      Canadian walleye fishing continues to excite anglers via jigs and minnows. Pink or white jigs tipped with shiners will put fish in the boat.  Night crawlers on spinners will produce fish in the mud deeper than 25 feet. 

      Musky action has been all over the place, fish are still being found in sandy, weedy bays, rock points and reefs.  The nearing new moon should have fish on the prowl this week. 

      Congratulations to our neighbor and local guide, Forrest Huset and his dad Sean on their victory at the Lake of the Woods Musky Bowl this weekend!

      Another neighbor, Jerry Klema, landed a 29 1/2 inch trophy walleye last week!

      Until next week,
      Sunset Lodge
       
       
       
       
       
       



    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello from Sunset Lodge!
      In Minnesota, walleye have been found using green, gold and orange spinners in 24-30 ft.  Jigging in the morning on tops of the reef has been the most productive.
      In Ontario, walleye fishing has been very good jigging on top of reefs as well, with gold and orange being the hot colors.  Musky fishing has been heating up as muskies are moving to the reefs and windblown points.  Multiple muskies have been caught over 50 inches within the last week.
      Happy Independence Day!
      Sunset Lodge








    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello from Sunset Lodge!

      In Minnesota, Walleye fishing has been good in 18-28ft pulling hammered gold and orange lindy rigs.  Jigging has also been very productive on top of the reefs before the Walleye move out deeper onto the flats.  Key areas have been Dawson Island, Little Oak and Shady Island.
       
      In Ontario, Walleye have been found deeper in 22-30ft.  A gold or chartreuse jig with a fathead or frozen shiner have been producing well around Deepwater bay, West side of Falcon and Gardner Island.  Many fish over 24 inches including a few Northern Pike and Muskie.  

      Good luck and keep your lines wet!
      Sunset Lodge








    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      Hello, from Sunset Lodge!

      Fishing has picked up significantly this week. In Minnesota, high winds limited fishing areas but many of our guests were able to find the walleyes stacked up on the humps pulling spinners.  Gold and green crawler harnesses are working the best.

      In Canada, working a slower presentation such as a lift and drag technique has been most effective.  Limits of walleye are being caught using gold and chartreus colors in 18-22 ft.  Key areas have been Deepwater Bay, Monkey Rocks and the west side of Falcon Island.  Smallmouth fishing has been heating up as well, using a jig and plastic on the rocks. 

      We hope to see you soon!
      Sunset Lodge

    • Sunset Lodge
      By Sunset Lodge
      In Minnesota, walleye fishing has been fantastic! Using a jig and minnow or a bobber rig, walleye can be had anywhere from 3-15 feet in the evening and 18-25 during the day. Pink and white, chartreuse or blue and white jigs have been the most productive.

      Canadian walleye are being found a little deeper at 22-26 feet. Many nice fish were caught this last week, multiple 26-28 inch and a very nice 30 incher. A jig and frozen shiner is the go to, however a freshly dead fathead works equally as well.
       
      Surface water temps are in the high 50’s at sunrise, reaching mid to upper 60’s by evening after this sunny Memorial day weekend!



















  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Wanderer
      @chaffmj   Good luck out there!
    • guideman
      Tuesday will be post frontal with wind out of the northwest, not a great day for Muskies. Work the weeds and the deep edges of main lake points and rock structures.  Glttertails, and large hair can be effective along with medium sized gliders or minnow style shallow running crankbait. Don't forget to throw a topwater on occasion. "Ace" "It's just fishing man".  
    • PRO-V
      She might have a bad alternator too.
    • monstermoose78
      Agreed it’s always to get em on top water. I have even got some walleyes on top water.
    • Chill62
      Fished Saturday central Becker County lake for panfish.  5 mm Panfish Pirate jigs with Push Up (Orange Cream) Kraken plastics were the ticket.  Got out there after eating breakfast in Frazee and the fish were biting instantly.  We landed a ton of big gills and upgraded the girlfriend from who had 5 sunfish 8.5"-8.75" up to 9.0" then as we kept fishing we upgraded 9.0 up again to 9.25".  She was excited to say the least.  She probably landed 20 gills 9.0" or greater on saturday alone.  She landed a few 9.5" and they were denied via the photo because the nose wasn't touching the front of the board which is hog wash but it is what it is.  Saturday no wind water temps were 81.0 and fish were up in the weeds tight!  Didn't keep anything and fished till about 2 ish.
      Sunday I took my father and his friend out from Texas.  His friend doesn't fish much so when he had my top of the line UL rod in his hands he didn't know what to think.  Didn't take long though and he was on fire.  We each took a different color and I put dad on Push Up but they wanted Bubble Gum (Pink Cream).  I did get a few on Moby (White) but Push Up was the key color again.  We ended up only fishing from 9 till 11 and kept 8 bigger gills from 8.5-9" all the big boys were thrown back but enough for a few meals of fish is all we were going for and we accomplished that goal.     We will be hopefully fishing Friday evening if I can get off of work early enough and Saturday.  Tournament ends on Saturday so trying to upgrade a 9.25 to a 9.5" to hopefully secure 1st place in the tournament.     A more detailed report is in the Members Only page and I encourage people to please become a member and a lot of people are putting some really great reports on there for the members.
      Have a great week!
    • yoppdk
      Done that ... new Interstate just last winter. That was the perplexing part about it. I thought maybe it was a bad battery, but it tested out okay. I guess it's possible she doesn't always shut her door all the way and the dome light stays on for days, but she would never admit to that. So I give her the benefit of the doubt and blame her driving habits instead.
    • ozzie
      I hit the chain a few times during vacation 3rd-8th.  We didn't hit the crappies like they did earlier in the week but we caught a few along with a few nice sunnies to have a meal.  We went out once for eyes on lower WF and caught a nice 18" on a jigging rap but that is all we caught that day.  We did try to troll Gull one night and left after an hour an a half because the floating weeds were so bad.
    • leech~~
      I'm with yeah on the boat usage deal. But the wife's car usage deal sounds, well a little fishy! 😂  May be time for her to get a new battery before winter at least. 
    • Rick
      Anyone interested in deer can talk with area wildlife managers from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources at meetings scheduled across the state meant to encourage discussions about deer and deer management, enhance local relationships and foster two-way communication.  These area-level engagement meetings organized by the DNR are one of the first steps identified for implementing the state’s new White-tailed Deer Management Plan. ”The format of the meetings will be similar to the ones held in April, when our draft plan was released,” said Erik Thorson, DNR acting big game program leader. “The focus this time will be on the upcoming deer season, progress in meeting population goals, local DNR management efforts and listening to citizen suggestions on improving deer management.” These local open-house style meetings will provide hunters and others interested in deer a forum for sharing their observations, talking to DNR wildlife managers, reviewing new deer-related information – including the final deer plan – and discussing options for the future. No formal presentations have been planned, so people can arrive any time during the scheduled meeting times. The DNR encourages anyone who can’t attend a scheduled meeting to contact a local wildlife manager for additional information or to address any questions about deer management. A list of area wildlife offices is available online at mndnr.gov/areas/wildlife. More information about the state’s deer management plan is available at mndnr.gov/deerplan. Meeting details Aitkin: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 21, Aitkin Area Office, 1200 Minnesota Ave. Altura: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 29, Whitewater Wildlife Management Area Headquarters, 15035 Highway 74. Baudette: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 5, Baudette High School AV Room, 236 15th Ave. SW. Bemidji: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 21, Bemidji City Hall, 317 4th St. NW. Brainerd: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 22, Brainerd area DNR Office, 1601 Minnesota Drive. Cambridge: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 29, Cambridge area DNR Office, 800 Oak Savanna Lane SW. Cloquet: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 30, Cloquet Area DNR Office, 1604 Highway 33 S. Detroit Lakes: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 28, Detroit Lakes Area DNR Office Conference Room, 14583 County Highway 19. Fergus Falls: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 23, Fergus Falls Office DNR Conference Room, 1509 1st Ave. N. Forest Lake: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 30, Carlos Avery WMA Headquarters, 5463 W. Broadway Ave. Glenwood: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 6, Glenwood DNR Office Conference Room, 23070 N. Lakeshore Drive. Grand Rapids: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 28, Grand Rapids Regional DNR Office, 1201 East Highway 2. International Falls: 5-7 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 28, International Falls Area DNR Office, 392 East Highway 11. Lake Bronson: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 4, Lake Bronson State Park Visitor’s Center, 3793 230th St. Little Falls: 10 a.m.-4:30 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 22, Little Falls Area DNR Office, 16543 Haven Road. McIntosh: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 30, McIntosh Community Center, 240 Cleveland Ave. SW. Middle River: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 22, Thief Lake Area DNR Office, 42280 240th Ave. NE. Minneota: 7-9 p.m. Monday, Aug. 27, Southwest Sportsmen’s Club, 3467 State Highway 68. New London: 11 a.m.-4 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 28, DNR Wildlife Office (Sibley State Park), 398 Sibley Park Road. Onamia: 11 a.m.-4 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 29, Mille Lacs WMA Headquarters, 29172 100th Ave. Park Rapids: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 30, Park Rapids Area Library, 210 W. 1st St. Rochester: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 21, Willow Creek Middle School Cafeteria, 615 7th St. SW. Roseau: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 11, Roseau County Courthouse, 606 5th Ave. SW. Rosemount: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 5, Vermillion WMA Office, 15325 Babcock Ave. Sauk Rapids: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 28, Sauk Rapids Area DNR Office, 1035 S. Benton Drive. Shakopee: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 5, Shakopee Area DNR Office, 7050 East Highway 101. Slayton: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 28, Slayton Pizza Ranch, 2306 Broadway Ave. St. Paul: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 29, DNR Central Office, 500 Lafayette Road. Thief River Falls: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 22, TRF Joint Operations Conference Room, 246 125th Ave. NE. Tower: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 15, Tower Area DNR Office, 650 Highway 169. Two Harbors: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 23, Two Harbors Area DNR Office, 1568 Highway 2. Warroad: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 6, Warroad DNR Forestry meeting room, 804 Cherne Drive NE. Waterville: 6-8 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 23, Waterville Fish Hatchery, 50317 Fish Hatchery Road. Watson: 6-8 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 21, Appleton/Lac qui Parle DNR Headquarters, 14047 20th St. NW. Windom: 6-8 p.m. Wednesday, Aug. 29, Windom Community Center, 1750 Cottonwood Lake Drive. Discuss below - to view set the hook here.
    • yoppdk
      I have had this same issue and came to the conclusion that I don't run the outboard enough to recharge the battery back to full capacity. I fish medium to smaller lakes and thus don't spend a whole lot of time at high speeds going across the lake ... just a short move here and there searching for fish. So I end up starting the engine  20-30 times per outing, but not running the outboard enough to get it back up to full voltage. And my Hummer shuts down when I crank the engine. So I now know that I need to put the charger on my starting battery at the end of the day. FYI, my wife has a similar issue with her SUV ... new Interstate battery keeps going down because she starts it, drives a couple miles ... stops, then starts it again and comes home. She rarely goes more than a couple miles per trip amd never over 30 mph. The alternator doesn't keep up with her use of the starter and thus gets low after a few weeks.