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Posted

I noticed some of the posts mention that sometime people will drill about 20-30 holes before they find a spot they are looking for. My question is, do other fisherman that have been there for a while get pissed because you are starting to drill all these holes, maybe the noise will scare the fish??? I want to be able to drill many holes before I get set up but I dont want to piss anyone off. Just want to see what people imput is on this.

Posted

Get out early and turn it into swiss cheese. Don't dare do it between 3:30 and 6 pm while in close proximity of others.

Posted

Usually people who are drilling lots of holes are looking for their own spot and are not near anyone...

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Posted

Get away from everyone and find your own spot.

On a smaller lake in the south west metro I drilled about 60 + holes on sunday and was rewarded with 4 walleyes at dusk.

the group of houses in near the acess were skunked...

...keep searchin for your own spots off by yourself and let that auger buck!

...many times the people bunched up just congregate together because none of them have lake maps or gps or are looking for their won spots

...i would highly suggest to drill all your holes prior to 2:30 ish so you are set up and quiet for the evening bite... that is if you are searching for the wary walleye..

happy drillin!

Posted

Nothing pisses people off more than someone poppoing holes left and right. Same thing goes for last night about 5 right when the crappie bite got strong on Prior and 4 4 wheeler pull a house about 15 feet from mine and my buddies houses and looking at the aqua vu and there go all the fish from those freaking things...

Posted

If you have a Vexilar you dont have to drill holes, just pour some water on the ice,set the transducer down and it will read right through.

If you want to drill a bunch of holes, just get away from the groups. I know this will upset some people, but don't be affraid to drill or set up during prime time if you need to. People get too bent out of shape over making noise, who cares about them, it's your right as a fisherman on public water.

I don't intentionally try to make noise and make people mad, but if I do, oh well. I'm out to enjoy myself and I'm not going to do things differently because of what other people think. Poeple need to worry about themselves, and if they are worried about noise, they should go to a spot on the lake where they can be alone.

Posted

I don't get upset when someone pops some holes near me no matter what time it is. Its not their fault that they can't get out on the ice early. Besides I have caught a lot of fish while someone is running an auger, I must trigger a strike somehow. And think of the summer when there are boats all around or you are trolling that doesn't seem to bother the fish.

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FishnFreak...I don't think anyone should have a problem with the way you go about business...in fact I wish everyone was like that. That's just commonsese...how can anyone argue with that.

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someone was smoking newport cigerettes on my spot.

Posted

I don't have a problem with "respectable" drilling at "bite" time either. Just don't go freak on drilling holes at this time (like 50ish).

Question: What is the etiquette if someone comes over the "prime" area, drills 20, 30 40 holes and proceeds to sit on only a few of them. Is it lame to drill extra holes around his holes if you want to move and fish the area?

Should you be able to use those holes if he is not?

Ask permission? Not?

Haven't encountered this yet, but it is an interesting hypothetical for me.

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SERIOUSLY! It was THIS big!

Posted

My schedule really doesn't allow me to be on the ice early, except on the weekends. During the week, I work until 5 and then make it out to my spots by 5:30 or 6:00 -- if you have a problem with that too bad. I am not going to show up in the middle of a group and drill 50 holes, but I will drill my 2 and then be quiet. If I am in the middle of a group, I shouldn't need more than my first two holes -- unless everyone else is in the wrong spot! ;-)

I have my spots that I go -- If you are there first, I will be very quick to drill my two holes and then all is quiet. If I am on new water, I won't go to the "group" -- I will be looking for my own spots, from what I see on hte map. If you are on the spot I wanted, expect a nice "hi, how's the fishing" and maybe the sound of me drilling a few holes to find the area I am looking for. I do carry both a Vex and a hand-held (flashlight style) depth finder, I will usually find my spot quietly and then drill my two holes.

I have caught many fish from a fresh hole, and caught fish while others are drilling their hoiles. I don't think the noise is that big of a factor. Maybe they will scatter for 10 minutes, but if you are on the spot, they will be back. If you are not on the spot, the bite you had would be short lived anyway.

Good Luck to all -- we should be driving out any day now.

Posted

Or,,,you could do as I do and use a hand auger to drill 10- 20 holes. It quiet and you get some exercise to work off the beer. Keep the blades sharp, though.

Posted

I say that when you go to drila hole, if you have a sonar, check the hole. It is not smart to go and drill 30 holes and then go and check each and every one of them. Half the time the first hole marks the most fish.
Plus when I go fishing i go to catch fish, not to sit over a dead hole all day. So im gonna drill as many holes as i need to to produce the most fish. Thats my take on this. Do what you have to to catch fish, but be smart when doing it.

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eat, fish, try to sleep

Posted

I'm with Fish-n-freak. I use my FL-5, find where I want to be and drill my two holes regardless of who's on the lake and what time I get there. Fishing is about what is personally enjoyable. I find no pleasure in turning the lake to swiss cheese. I like to get my house set up, enjoy some pop and snacks, listen to my radio (hopefully a hockey game) and maybe catch some fish. The actual fishing is only part of the fun. Being outside, playing with my "toys" (as my wife calls my sporting goods) and enjoy the company of whoever I may be with are all more important and fun for me than filling a pail with fish. I throw everything I catch back anyhow, unless who I'm with wants them or we're going to have shore lunch. I pay no attention to when other people are drilling their holes. I will admit that I'm less than enamored with the ATV's and snowmobiles speeding all over the place. I think there impact on the fishing is short term and minimal but lots of times the riders are liquored up and driving dangerously.

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Fergus Mor McErc
O Tempora! O Mores!

Posted

I'll chime in with Iceburyman - I like the hand auger route. I'm able to bore 12" in 30 seconds with sharp blades, and do it silently. It'd take me that long just to pickup, start and set a power auger.

With hand augers, the only true trick is sharp blades - cheaper than gas and oil, not to mention the cost of the power auger itself. And on cold days, drilling holes warms me up enough to last until the shanty heats up. :-)

-Jim

Posted

Well:

I have two answers in regards to fish response to drilling.

We used underwater cameras to watch the activity of the fish during drilling.

If the fish are active, they could care less!!! I've drilled holes right on top of crappies and sunnies, only to have them more or less look up, then go strike the bait.
Ever hear of hole shoting? It is a method of being very mobile, drilling holes, dropping a good jig for a pike. If no action occurrs in 5 or 10 minutes..........you move.
2 weeks ago on Prior lake, I couldn't keep the sunnies and bass off my line. People were drilling all around me. The more activity I created by reeling in fish, brought the fish in more!!! Those fish are HOT!

On the other hand,
If the fish are negative, they will shut down even more at the slightest noise. Don't worry about someone drilling and making noise..........The crack of a can of beer, a slide of foot, a drop of minnow scooper is all it takes to scare those fish. Last Saturday on a Lake by Minnetonka, we had a camara on a tip-up, just outside the house. We were also jigging for pike in the house (portable). We turned the camara over to the tip up, to see a pike chasing the sucker like mad. He finally connected and just sat there, munching on his meal. The flag was tripped, but he didn't go anywhere.......So, I CAREFULLY ZIPPED OPEN THE DOOR AND JUST THAT MOVEMENT AND NOISE THE FISH HEARD............He dropped his meal and headed to deep water.

Besides, when someone drills next to me, when the activity is neutral to hot, if anything, it just pushes there fish to me.

Many times, pike fishing with tip ups, we will take a spud bar and walk large circles around our tip ups, tapping the ice, as we walk. Normally on an average fish mood day, you don't make it to the portable without a flag.......

Walleyes are tough fish to convince under the ice, yes........If they are neutral or negative, so don't blame the guy drilling next to you for you not catching fish, when you are blabbing angrily to your buddy in your house at how the jerk is scaring fish. IF the fish are that negative, your talking will shut them down.

It is the mood of the fish that determine what will happen........

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Let 'em go so they can grow!!!

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