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I was reading the Buzz stick forums and went to the ice fishing show and saw the Buzz Sticks all over the place. My question is how important is jigging? Is the proper technique necessary or is rod movement good enough? I mainly fish for Crappie.

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Posted

I actually saw these new buzz-sticks at the show on Friday myself. I was not really impressed. The guy was trying so hard to get me to buy one, but I told him that REAL jigging works just fine for me. So then I think he was getting a little PO'd cuz his tone changed rather quickly. Then he throws out there that "I guarantee you that I could outfish you with a buzz-stick compared to a regular rod." That wasn't the wisest sales pitch he could've said, but I'm sure he knew that I wasn't a taker on this already. So after that nice little comment I had to talk a little smack to quiet him down a little. It was pretty funny actually as a small crowd gathered around to listen to what I had to say to him and his buzz-sticks. I had my dad just rolling when I was kind of telling this guy off. We got a few laughs just thinking about this guy as we walked through the show.
Good luck all!

Posted

saw a buzz stick in action at the lake last weekend,wasnt impressed,the user was thinking he would have to change to superline
to get better results,it was very windy and
didnt get the action promised,maybe in a calm
house it would work better,me, i, bought a st croix ultra lite combo for 5bucks cheaper
and had a gas,wont even need a spring bobber
this year because the rod is so sensative....

Posted

I like the concept of the buzz stick, but I think it's a crappy design. The wires should run in the rod and not be twisted around it. They are very fragile looking wires. My .02. I haven't bought one, but I'm thinking about it. Probably think about it all winter.

Posted

Well if its designed to catch fisherman then I got caught! smile.gif
I am not sure how well its going to work but I couldn't not have one!
I use a technique for finicky fish where you crumple up the line so it gets kinks in it.Then you roll it back and forth in your fingers to give subtle action to your bait.I think the buzz stick will give near the same results and I will have only one cramped up finger instead of two! smile.gif
We will see.

Posted

I agree with all of the above. These rods are the most ridiculous things I have seen in years. The guys who stood there straight faced at the show and told me "these are going to put more fish in your bucket" are so full of crap, their eyes are brown. I hope no one really falls for this stuff. But unfortunately some do.

[This message has been edited by Boatlessinblaine (edited 12-10-2003).]

Posted

yeah it looks like a stupid gimmick (and i think its a piece of **** rod) but really- i agree with ebass, the idea makes sense. jiggling can be hard to do right. its hard to shake your hand to get the right action without overdoing it. What i think they should do is make a "buzzer" attachment that you can put on any rod. Some people are good enough with their hands not to need this, but I think the idea is legit.

Posted

then again- i guess the reason i probably would never buy one is: i like trying (and failing) to fool the fish with my hands. i guess pushing a button to catch a fish just wouldnt do it for me.

Posted

I think the buzz stick is designed to catch ice fisherman.

Posted

I too am a gimmick person but I will not fall for this Sex toy on a stick! Kudos to the person who invented the Buzz Stick! You won the gadget of the year award. I bought the Banjo minnow how many years ago and maybe used it 5 minutes cause it didn't catch a trophy bass in the first cast!

I'm not ripping on these products I'm just venting at the small number of gimmick products that we all buy year after year that don't magically catch fish! This winter I want to prove to myself that fish prefer certain colors of jigs....I BELEIVE!!!!!!!!!!

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    • SkunkedAgain
      https://www.timberjay.com/stories/moccasin-point-upgrade-has-longtime-users-concerned,22802   Moccasin Point upgrade has longtime users concerned DNR hopes to get major remake of key access underway later this year Posted Thursday, March 20, 2025 10:36 am   Marshall Helmberger LAKE VERMILION— With funding finally in place, the Department of Natural Resources is planning to move forward with an estimated $2-plus million renovation of the Moccasin Point landing, and users of the site say they’re concerned about the changes. The landing has been heavily used for decades by anglers, Boundary Waters visitors, residents of nearby islands and other remote-access properties on Lake Vermilion and, perhaps most critically, by emergency responders for everything from fire to medical response. Moccasin Point has also been a protected harbor for private barges loading and unloading as they service the many water-access properties in the area. Sarah Schmidt, who spends summers with her husband Jake at their cabin on nearby Pine Island, said there’s a lot at stake for people who depend on the landing. “A lot of people have designed their dream home around having access to that landing,” she said. “People need propane, they need lumber, and if they need to install a septic system, they need lots of gravel,” she said. For the many hundreds of island or other water-access property owners on the lake, all of that material comes by barge. Moccasin Point is particularly well suited for such use, since it is arguably the most protected harbor on Lake Vermilion, with islands and mainland protecting it from wind from just about any direction. It’s also centrally located on the sprawling lake and close to concentrations of island homes and cabins. Scott Kelling, northeast regional manager for DNR Parks and Trails, said the plans for the reconstruction of the landing are still being finalized, but insisted they will take into account the unique mix of recreational and commercial use of the landing, including use by all three of the barging companies that service customers on the lake. According to Kelling, the remake of the landing will include removal of the old pier and the reconstruction of a new one in nearly the same location. “The new pier will serve the same function,” said Kelling, and will include an additional ramp that will be dedicated for barge loading and off-loading. Kelling said an engineer’s inspection of the existing pier determined it was near the end of its useful life, although Schmidt said she thinks that opinion reflects the DNR’s desire to remove the structure rather than its actual condition. Kelling acknowledges that it’s not the only reason for replacing the structure. “With our redesign it’s just not in the right location,” he said. Adequate parking is another major concern of longtime users of Moccasin Point. Tim Logan, whose family has owned island property near the landing since the 1950s, said plans the DNR had shared a few years ago seemed to show less parking than is typically used at the site. Schmidt notes that during high-traffic weekends, the parking area is frequently full and overflow parking can extend for hundreds of feet along Moccasin Point Rd. She said she counted 163 vehicles parked at the landing at one point last Memorial Day weekend and said there are routinely 90-100 vehicles during the summer season. Many of the regular users of the landing, particularly those on island properties, use the site for long-term parking of their vehicles for days, weeks, or months at a time. That’s unusual at public landings, which are typically limited to day use. Kelling said the DNR is making an exception to that rule for Moccasin Point, given the many varied uses of the unique property. “Overnight parking will be allowed,” he said. Kelling said the current plan will allow parking for a bit over 100 vehicles, which is more than some original plans for the site. “We’re doing everything we can to maximize the parking there, at some considerable expense,” he said. Longstanding issues Kelling said the DNR’s plan for reconstruction is motivated by a desire to “manage the site more responsibly on a number of fronts.” The DNR acquired the site in 2008 and had planned to undertake reconstruction of the landing back in 2013 but lacked the funds at the time to accomplish the work. The funding was approved in 2023 and the DNR has been working on design of the project ever since. According to Kelling, the site has operated essentially as a “free-for-all” for years, with uses and resource impacts that aren’t typically permitted at DNR-managed access points. “There are currently a number of transgressions out there,” said Kelling, including long-term storage of personal property and building materials. He said the site, which slopes toward the lake, also contributes large amounts of sediment into Vermilion during heavy rainfall. “We need to better manage the stormwater,” said Kelling. “Currently, a lot of sediment and other things end up in the lake when it rains.” Schmidt questions whether the change will be an improvement, since the DNR’s reconstruction of the site will convert the existing grassy hillside that currently serves as the site’s parking lot into a paved parking area. Kelling said the parking area will be leveled before being paved and that stormwater will be directed into one of two planned stormwater ponds in order to contain sediment. 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    • smurfy
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    • leech~~
      Agreed, but I had a bit of a technicality and had to change.   You!  🤣
    • CigarGuy
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    • leech~~
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    • JerkinLips
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    • mbeyer
      Gonna revive an old topic after seeing an announcement from MN DNR about improvements/upgrades to Moccasin Point. Read 2+ million dollars invested but didn't see any detail plans. Anyone have the inside scoop?
    • leech~~
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    • Wanderer
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    • leech~~
      How many shells did you bring? How many did you come home with?  
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