Jump to content
  • GUESTS

    If You  want access  to member only forums on FM, You will need to Sign-in or  Sign-Up now .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member.

Jevon K to Vikings!!!!!


bassNspear

Recommended Posts

what do you all think of this? I think hes a awesome player, and would love him here for the viks.

whats everyone elses thoughts.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 81
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • tisosy11

    15

  • FISHINGURU

    14

  • EEBS

    9

  • Scott K

    8

we could have had him on draft day! Is he used up? Is he still the FREAK, or just Jevon Kearse?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

He's an undersized speed rusher who's lost a couple of steps due to frequent injuries. This just leaves him undersized. That being said, I would take a flyer on him if the price was right.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Offer him an incentive-based contract and use him as a situational pass rusher...kind of like Johnstone.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I here Jason Taylor is gonna be out of Miami, I think that's who we should focus on if it happens. Taylor is getting old too but man he still has the talent.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Could be a good fill in for the need for the speed rush, but at 31 with the seriousness of the leg and knee injuiries he has had, unless they can get him for little money, I think it would be an unwise investment...granted there isn't much for defensive ends on the free agency market but he certainly wouldn't "fix" the defense

Link to comment
Share on other sites

He was the defensive player of the year in 06 he's got more left than what we have on the ends now. I like the idea of the little money thing, wouldn't pay top price but I think it would be a good investment.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah, if he will take a nice paycut or an incentive contract that would be nice!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

To much to loose, we'd have to give up our 1st round draft picks for the next 2 seasons and we'd have to sign him to a huge contract. You guys think Berrian's contract was huge, then you will have a heart attack when see what we'd pay Allen haha.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

to much to gain...we'd have the best d-line in the nfl with a new young pass rushing stud. why would it cost 2-1st round pics? even if it did your still have no guarentees in 1st round pics...there's a couple diamonds but mostly they turn out to be busters...and they still get paid like they are big time players.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 Originally Posted By: FISHINGURU
why would it cost 2-1st round pics?

Allen has the franchise tag on him and if you are franchised and get traded it cost the other team 2 first round picks. With Allem being franchised the Chiefs have to pay him average of the top 5 salaries in the league at his position. I believe teams can franchise 1 UFA off their team a year. Say the Vikes franchised Mewelde Moore, we would have to pay him top 5 averaged salary at the RB position or trade him and get 2 1st rounders. I believe 2 1st rounders apply to all franchise tags.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i smell all sorts of rookies in here lol

you only have to give up 2-1st round picks if you try to sign a franchise player as a free agent...then that team has the option to take your 2-1st round picks or match the offer to keep him.

a team can trade their franchise player for whatever they want...if they have a feeling they are gonna lose him next season and get nothing in return they will trade him.

corey williams was the packers franchise player this season and was traded to the browns for a 2nd round pick in this years draft.

worst case scenerio is they dont want to trade him but they would for a decent offer we could get him for this yrs 17th pick but we have 2-3rds and 2-6ths this year along with the other picks and next yrs 1st which would be towards the end of the 1st round cause we'd go deep in the playoffs adding a player like allen.

we'd have a dominate DE pass rusher and matched with the williams it would be over.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jared Allen is also a young not totally proven player. He had a huge year...but so did scott mitchel one time...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 Originally Posted By: bassphish2005
washed up...Kerse was good in his day though

Folks said the same thing about Moss a couple years ago.... you just never know. He would have to be used in spot duty...playing only on passing downs. For a cheap, incentive laiden contract I think he Kearse would be great, but no big money!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

jared allen is not proven? how much proof do you need?

4 seasons

61 games

230 tackles

43 sacks

13 forced fumbles and an int

the guy missed the first 2 games of the season last year and recorded 65 tackles, 15.5 sacks and 3 forced fumbles.

looks to me like he's been dominant since day 1

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=5651

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ok you convinsed me, they can offer them next years 1st round and one of this years 3rd. I would be ok with that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

he got the franchise tag but he's available for a price.

we'd have to either work a trade out for him with the chiefs or if we signed him without their permission they'd have a chance to match our offer which they won't or take 2-1st round picks.

signing him without a trade would be spendy because we'd have to give up 2-1st round picks but he's easily a top DE in the nfl if not the best DE in the nfl. his talent is still rising and he's only 25...on a D line of the chiefs this guys see's double and triple teams every play and still gets those #s...imagine him next to the williamson bros lol

if a trade couldn't be reached i wouldn't mind as a fan if we gave up the 17th selection this year and next yrs 1st...with allen we'd go deep in the playoffs and would be giving up a mid to late 20's 1st round pick.

he'd be the answer...he'd want big money but we also wouldn't have to pay 2-1st round players...the vikes still have 2-3rds and 2-6th round picks this yr also for depth and what not.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

WOW coach, I have never heard anyone who thought Moss was used up! I think his ego got the best of him in going to Oakland. But, I would have never said, and never heard anyone else say he was over. The guy can flat out do stuff most others can't.... it's just a matter of finding the team, or players that make him do that.

Now Kearse, with the injuries and all, that makes me more concearned. But who knows, the Vikes have a way of making older guys, come back to prime for a season or two.....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I said he was washed up. And i was clearly wrong for the regular season. You forget his final two years here? Moss was injury plagued...never had that step late. His back was hurt, which lead to aching legs. That was a big reason we traded him...because he couldn't do it in a full season anymore...

And he proved it...What did he do in the playoffs, late in the season??? He had 6 catches and 1 TD...Moss is a freak, but he is not what he was in the early years with the Vikings for a full year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think the vikes should sign Kearse. Sure he may be old but I think he may have some left in his tank. Im sure he will come fairly cheap, but they have to make the move before his first team(Tennessee) signs him on thursday(he is scheduled to visit there after winter park).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I really don't want us to give up draft picks for any player. As far as Allen goes he's one incident away from a year long suspension. He's awesome but.......

We have 9 draft picks this year so I hope we pick a speed rusher with potential and give our guys another year to develop. Next year in free agency there will be more quality defensive ends available.

I think we are building for a serious run in 2009. Assuming Jackson pans out as our QB. I have my doubts though. A quality veteran QB is more important for this year in my opinion.

There just isn't a lot left in free agency right now. We'll see who gets cut this summer.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

so you think both taylor or javon are not good fits ne more?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Brianf.
      I'm not there, so I can't tell exactly what's going on but it looks like a large area of open water developed in the last day with all of the heavy snow on the east side of wake em up Narrows. These two photos are from my Ring Camera facing north towards Niles Point.  You can see what happened with all of snow that fell in the last three days, though the open water could have been wind driven. Hard to say. .  
    • SkunkedAgain
      Black Bay had great ice before but a few spots near rockpiles where there were spots of open water. It looks like the weight of the snow has created a little lake in the middle of the bay.  
    • LakeofthewoodsMN
      On the south end...   Thanks to some cold spring weather, ice fishing continues strong for those still ice fishing.  The bite remains very good.  Most resorts have pulled their fish houses off for the year, however, some still have fish houses out and others are allowing ATV and side by sides.  Check social media or call ahead to your favorite resort for specifics. Reports this week for walleyes and saugers remain excellent.   A nice mix of jumbo perch, pike, eelpout, and an occasional crappie, tullibee or sturgeon being reported by anglers. Jigging one line and using a live minnow on the second line is the way to go.  Green, glow red, pink and gold were good colors this week.     Monster pike are on a tear!  Good number of pike, some reaching over 45 inches long, being caught using tip ups with live suckers or dead bait such as smelt and herring in 8 - 14' of water.   As always, work through a resort or outfitter for ice road conditions.  Safety first always. Fish houses are allowed on the ice through March 31st, the walleye / sauger season goes through April 14th and the pike season never ends. On the Rainy River...  The river is opened up along the Nelson Park boat ramp in Birchdale, the Frontier boat ramp and Vidas boat ramp.  This past week, much of the open water skimmed over with the single digit overnight temps.   Areas of the river have popped open again and with temps getting warmer, things are shaping up for the last stretch through the rest of the spring season, which continues through April 14th.   Very good numbers of walleyes are in the river.  Reports this week, even with fewer anglers, have been good.  When temps warm up and the sun shines, things will fire up again.   Jigs with brightly colored plastics or jigs with a frozen emerald shiner have been the desired bait on the river.  Don't overlook slow trolling crankbaits upstream as well.   Good reports of sturgeon being caught on the river as well.  Sturgeon put the feed bag on in the spring.  The bite has been very good.  Most are using a sturgeon rig with a circle hook loaded with crawlers or crawlers / frozen emerald shiners. Up at the NW Angle...  Ice fishing is winding down up at the Angle.  Walleyes, saugers, and a number of various species in the mix again this week.  The bite is still very good with good numbers of fish.  The one two punch of jigging one line and deadsticking the second line is working well.   Check with Angle resorts on transport options from Young's Bay.  Call ahead for ice road guidelines.  
    • CigarGuy
      With the drifting, kind of hard to tell for sure, but I'm guessing about a foot and still lightly snowing. Cook end!
    • PSU
      How much snow did you get on Vermilion? 
    • Mike89
      lake here refroze too...  started opening again yesterday with the wet snow and wind...  very little ice left today...
    • Hookmaster
      A friend who has a cabin between Alex and Fergus said the lake he's on refroze. He texted me a pic from March 12th when it was open and one from 23rd when it wasn't. 🤯
    • SkunkedAgain
      I don't think that there has been any ice melt in the past few weeks on Vermilion. Things looked like a record and then Mother Nature swept in again.   I'll give my revised guess of April 21st
    • leech~~
      As I get older it's really not just about sending bullets down range.  Some of it's just the workmanship of the gun and the wow factor. The other two guns I have really wanted which I'll never have now because of their price, is a 8mm Jap Nambu and 9mm German Luger.   Just thought they always looked cool!  
    • jim curlee
      I had a guy hit me with a lightly used 1969 BAR, he wanted $1650 with an older Leupold scope. More than I think they are worth, I made an offer, he declined end of story.   You know if you look at the old brochures, a grade II BAR sold for $250 in the late 60s, $1650 would be a good return on your investment.    Why would anybody want a 50 year old gun, they are heavy, have wood stocks, and blued metal.  I guess mainly to keep their gun safes glued to the floor. lol   You can probably buy a stainless rifle that you never have to clean, with a synthetic stock you never have to refinish, is as light as a feather, and for half as much money, perfect.   I'm too old for a youth gun, although I've shrunk enough that it would probably fit. lol   No Ruger 10/44s.   Jim      
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.